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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 6, 2017 17:18:50 GMT -5
 Batman and the Shadow are teaming up once again later this much and although I enjoy both characters, and found the previous team up to be fun I don't know how I feel about the newest mini. Scott Snyder is a bit of a hit or miss with me but Orlando is usually a no go with me so I'm left wondering how the story will turn out though the premise of Batman investigating a murder that involves a 50 year old cold case...the death of Lamont Cranston. That said I'm a big fan of Riley Rossmo and what little he's shown us from this series does look good:   I think that alone means I'll probably atleast take a look at the first issue, but after that? Who knows....
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 6, 2017 17:32:56 GMT -5
I have no idea who Orlando is. As for Snyder...I liked American Vampire. But I read The Court of Owls and thought it was awful to boring.
The art looks pretty good though. I suspect they won't print it in black & white, which I actually think might be a plus for the book.
I'll see how the reviews are and maybe read it in trade.
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Post by lobsterjohnson on Apr 6, 2017 19:43:30 GMT -5
It's Batman and the Shadow, so I'll definitely give it a try!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 7, 2017 9:14:19 GMT -5
I have no idea who Orlando is. As for Snyder...I liked American Vampire. But I read The Court of Owls and thought it was awful to boring. The art looks pretty good though. I suspect they won't print it in black & white, which I actually think might be a plus for the book. I'll see how the reviews are and maybe read it in trade. Yeah, Snyder's definitely hit or miss...but be glad you haven't run across Orlando. Most days he's the fill in guy at DC, he's quick and competent but fairly pedestrian but that's okay for an issue that's just taking up space so the main team can catch up, but when he's on his own that same vanilla flavor goes from being at least paletable to being rancid as when he takes those very basic skills and trys to swing for the fences it's just ugly. If you want to see what I mean just look at pages from last fall's Night of the Monstermen for an example. Black and white with maybe just a little red for the Shadow's scarf would definitely be my druthers...has that actually ever been done with a Shadow comic? It seems so basic a concept, and it's how I see the Shadow in my head...but I don't think anyone's actually put it on page. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 7, 2017 9:16:20 GMT -5
It's Batman and the Shadow, so I'll definitely give it a try! It definitely has the possibility to be good...I'm just not a fan of Orlando at all. The only thing he's touched that I ever enjoyed was the Captain Marvel one shot he did for last winter's Darkseid War. I didn't read the event but I pick up anything Captain Marvel and his was pretty good. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 19:16:03 GMT -5
It's Batman and the Shadow, so I'll definitely give it a try! My thoughts as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 20:43:02 GMT -5
Dynamite's Shadow stuff has varied between mediocre to bad except for Matt Wagner and Howard Chaykin's stuff, and Snyder has yet to write something with a satisfactory ending making everything he has written unsatisfying to me, so unless this gets rave reviews and I get the trade, it's a pass for me. Dynamite is a publisher that seems to take characters and properties I really like and produce the least satisfying stories possible with them, so I generally do not support their efforts as I don't want to enable or financially incentivize more of the same. There are exceptions for certain, but that's usually because of the creators (like Matt Wagner) involved not the company and the creators who have been the exception aren't involved in this one, so it gets a pass.
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 19, 2017 3:17:17 GMT -5
Snyder is definitely mixed reviews, but Orlando is decent.
He's a rising star at DC, and I liked the Martian Manhunter maxi-series he did a few years ago.
I understand what mrp is saying but certain mixes I have to try, and that includes anything with the Shadow, one of my all-time favorite characters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2017 11:14:33 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the first issue. Off to a great start.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 30, 2017 15:49:54 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the first issue. Off to a great start. Yeah, it was pretty decent. I like the mystery of it all and the concept of the Shadow as almost operating as the head of a cult as an evolution of his war on crime is interesting. I just wish Bruce had somebody to talk to, the short commands that made up most of his dialog as he spoke to the batcomputer made for boring reading and a choppy feeling to the pacing of the story. |
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Post by berkley on Jun 17, 2017 0:50:26 GMT -5
Maybe I'm reading too much into this single page, but it looks a little too biased in Batman's favour to me: the fight, for example, seems to have more panels showing Batman's successful strikes, unless I'm not following what the artist is trying to get across; and the white backgrounds don't suit the whole Shadow-aesthetic - but maybe it's unfinished.
It could be I've been made over-suspicious by the way Batman tends to be written these last years, but it reminds me of all those comics where the guest-star always "loses"* to the title character, even though they're meant to be more or less equal, like when Kull appeared in the Conan series.
*quotes around 'loses' because it isn't necessarily a literal loss in a fight, sometimes it's just a subtle hint that the title character is ever-so-slightly superior
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 19, 2017 18:28:17 GMT -5
Maybe I'm reading too much into this single page, but it looks a little too biased in Batman's favour to me: the fight, for example, seems to have more panels showing Batman's successful strikes, unless I'm not following what the artist is trying to get across; and the white backgrounds don't suit the whole Shadow-aesthetic - but maybe it's unfinished. It could be I've been made over-suspicious by the way Batman tends to be written these last years, but it reminds me of all those comics where the guest-star always "loses"* to the title character, even though they're meant to be more or less equal, like when Kull appeared in the Conan series. *quotes around 'loses' because it isn't necessarily a literal loss in a fight, sometimes it's just a subtle hint that the title character is ever-so-slightly superior I haven't read the most recent issue yet, but the Shadow beats Batman pretty handily each time they meet. |
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