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Post by rom on Apr 13, 2017 22:04:53 GMT -5
I really enjoyed DC's Arak, Son of Thunder when I read/collected this back in the day - it's one of my all-time favorite comic series, and I never felt it was a "Conan" rip-off. Arak was a superb fantasy/medieval series, and IMHO quite unique - I don't think there's been a comic like it before or since. The character changed his hair-cut from long to a mohawk at some point mid-series, and that gave the book a slightly different vibe. The Ernie Colon, Alfredo Alcala, & Tony DeZuniga-drawn issues were especially excellent; their artwork really fit the tone of the book. Too bad that this underrated series hasn't been collected yet in any form. I'd definitely be on-board for a set of Arak color TPB's or Omni's (it ran 50 issues - so, along with the Warlord preview & 1 Annual, the series could easily fit into two volumes). DC owns the character, so there wouldn't be any licensing issues here. Here are some links: comicvine.gamespot.com/arak-son-of-thunder/4050-3071/grognardia.blogspot.com/2012/10/pulp-fantasy-library-arak-son-of-thunder.html
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 13, 2017 22:22:18 GMT -5
MRP reviewed, oh, about 1/2 the series in his 'from the Sorceror's scroll' thread a while back.. I ended up getting the first 20 issues or so after reading it.. I agree it's some good stuff before it kinda peters out.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 13, 2017 22:40:58 GMT -5
It never recovered from Ernie Colon leaving, in my opinion.
I still followed the book for its entire run. The last issues, while I liked the art by DeZuniga became incredibly dire when Roy turned it over to the L'Officers to script.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 22:52:17 GMT -5
I really enjoyed DC's Arak, Son of Thunder when I read/collected this back in the day - it's one of my all-time favorite comic series, and I never felt it was a "Conan" rip-off. Arak was a superb fantasy/medieval series, and IMHO quite unique - I don't think there's been a comic like it before or since. The character changed his hair-cut from long to a mohawk at some point mid-series, and that gave the book a slightly different vibe. The Tony DeZuniga-drawn issues were the best; his artwork really fit the tone of the book. Too bad that this underrated series hasn't been collected yet in any form. I'd definitely be on-board for a set of Arak color TPB's or Omni's (it ran 50 issues - so, along with the Warlord preview & 1 Annual, the series could easily fit into two volumes). DC owns the character, so there wouldn't be any licensing issues here. Here are some links: comicvine.gamespot.com/arak-son-of-thunder/4050-3071/grognardia.blogspot.com/2012/10/pulp-fantasy-library-arak-son-of-thunder.htmlI'm not actually sure DC owns the character actually. Roy talked about continuing the series in another medium (prose I think) and possibly doing something film-wise with it in the letters pages of the last handful of issues after it's cancellation had been announced, so he may have had some ownership of it, not DC. Someone would have to check with Roy to confirm this, but from the nature of those comments in the letters pages it seemed Roy was free to do what he wanted with the character outside of DC. -M
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 22:58:46 GMT -5
MRP reviewed, oh, about 1/2 the series in his 'from the Sorceror's scroll' thread a while back.. I ended up getting the first 20 issues or so after reading it.. I agree it's some good stuff before it kinda peters out. Those reviews start here for anyone interested. And considering you can find most of the issues in quarter or dollar bins (I put the whole run together without paying more than $1 for any issue about 4-5 years ago, but the average cost per issue was somewhere around 35 cents)I am not sure there is a market for a high priced collected edition when the originals can be had for less than the CE would cost, even at Amazon level discounts, which severely narrows the market for it, and illustrates a lack of demand for those stories in the marketplace to drive prices on those issues. As much as I like parts of the series, I am not sure there is a market for a collected edition in the current comic consumer climate. -M
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Post by rom on Apr 13, 2017 23:27:05 GMT -5
MRP reviewed, oh, about 1/2 the series in his 'from the Sorceror's scroll' thread a while back.. I ended up getting the first 20 issues or so after reading it.. I agree it's some good stuff before it kinda peters out. Those reviews start here for anyone interested. And considering you can find most of the issues in quarter or dollar bins (I put the whole run together without paying more than $1 for any issue about 4-5 years ago, but the average cost per issue was somewhere around 35 cents)I am not sure there is a market for a high priced collected edition when the originals can be had for less than the CE would cost, even at Amazon level discounts, which severely narrows the market for it, and illustrates a lack of demand for those stories in the marketplace to drive prices on those issues. As much as I like parts of the series, I am not sure there is a market for a collected edition in the current comic consumer climate. Thanks for the link - great reviews. I didn't know Arak had been focused on in that thread. Re: possible collected editions of Arak, I never thought high-end HC's were the way this title should be reprinted; more like a series of color Trades. And, though I'm probably in the minority here, but I would rather pay more to see this title reprinted with remastered art/color - even if the individual floppies are cheaper. That being said, I may end up purchasing the floppies - since the likely-hood of a CE of this series ever being released is almost impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 0:03:35 GMT -5
I liked this book when it's came out in 1981 and after a year went by my local LCS pulled it away unexpectedly and I was working really hard during the early part of 1982 and having said that ... this book disappeared and I only have a handful of issues including #1. I had to sell them to a friend of mine that didn't have the early issues and I was kind of sad that I didn't get to see the rest of them. I liked the stories better than the art.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 14, 2017 9:21:10 GMT -5
I started collecting Arak a couple of years ago. So far, I have the first seventeen, plus the annual. I like it a lot. It's comparable in quality to Roy's Conan work but feels more freewheeling, thanks to not being restricted by the Howard canon. The rest of the run sits fairly high on my want list.
Cei-U! I summon the Son of Thunder!
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Post by Rob Allen on Apr 14, 2017 11:41:57 GMT -5
Did Arak's father Thunder actually appear in the series?
I have the same question about Turok's father Stone.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 14, 2017 12:50:54 GMT -5
Did Arak's father Thunder actually appear in the series? I have the same question about Turok's father Stone. Yes, when Arak was killed and resurrected as a shaman/wizard of ill-defined powers. He met his dad in heaven. That's when the series stopped working for me. The Serpent, which earlier might have been an avatar of Satan, was treated as if he were just a wizard with a weird-looking head. Arak, who had been so grounded in the real world despite the occasional, started using mystical powers that worked whenever convenient and didn't when the plot asked for it. Unlike Roy, I didn't particularly care for DeZuniga's art on the series, either as full artist or as inker on Colon's pencils. For my money, the Rodriguez/Alcala did an equally good job... and sometimes a superior one. The art was never bad, though. What I regret the most is that early issues suggested that the climax of the series would have Arak return to America and settle things with the Serpent and the enemies of his scattered people, the Quontauka. Unfortunately, after the truly rousing storyline incorporating the Prester John mythos, we spent a lot of time dealing with other antique subjects (the golden bough, Sinbad's voyages) which, while certainly good story material, were in the final analysis a collection of distractions.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 14, 2017 13:13:44 GMT -5
I seem to remember Rodriguez inking Colon after DeZuniga. While I like DeZuniga I thought this was a better fit because it let the Colon shine through.
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 14, 2017 23:14:44 GMT -5
I got the early issues back in the day and liked it especially because of DeZuniga's artwork, but I'm a big fan.
My brother has the entire series somewhere.
If in fact Thomas owns the rights, that would explain why we haven't seen the character again outside of an issue of All-Star Squadron and Young All-Stars, both titles Thomas wrote.
The character could be really cool.
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Post by rom on Apr 15, 2017 10:49:45 GMT -5
Good point(s). It's possible that Arak & other DC series from the '80's haven't been reprinted because DC doesn't want to pay compensation to the various artists/writers; this is based on a conversation I had with a LCS owner years ago. If this is true, then it makes sense - i.e., it's probably not in DC's best interest to have to pay the original writers/artists for the rights to reprint these series - then, turn around & reprint the comics - and hope to make a profit. Unless....some kind of deal can be reached that would be beneficial to both parties.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Apr 15, 2017 15:49:47 GMT -5
I remember enjoying the early issues of Arak, especially the ones Tony DeZuniga inked, but lost interest shortly after he was given a mohawk haircut (Arak, not DeZuniga, that is). GCD says Valda the Iron Maiden appeared in a handful of later comics not written by Thomas circa 2005-6: Day of Vengeance #1, Day of Vengeance: Infinite Crisis Special #1, Infinite Crisis #6 and Shadowpact #1 & #5, and James Robinson used Arak's descendant Arak Wind-Walker in Justice League: Cry For Justice #4 in 2009. Comic Vine says the character Telos, introduced in 2015's Convergence crossover, has been revealed to be Arak. link
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Post by rom on Apr 16, 2017 10:42:58 GMT -5
I remember enjoying the early issues of Arak, especially the ones Tony DeZuniga inked, but lost interest shortly after he was given a mohawk haircut (Arak, not DeZuniga, that is). GCD says Valda the Iron Maiden appeared in a handful of later comics not written by Thomas circa 2005-6: Day of Vengeance #1, Day of Vengeance: Infinite Crisis Special #1, Infinite Crisis #6 and Shadowpact #1 & #5, and James Robinson used Arak's descendant Arak Wind-Walker in Justice League: Cry For Justice #4 in 2009. Comic Vine says the character Telos, introduced in 2015's Convergence crossover, has been revealed to be Arak. linkInteresting, and good to know. It's cool that DC is keeping Arak in the modern continuity to some extent. Conversely, a lot of '80's DC characters/comics/series have pretty much been forgotten these days....
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