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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 22, 2017 9:44:00 GMT -5
I loved that it took just one panel in Avengers #5 to explain the Battle with the Hulk that occurred in FF # 26
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 22, 2017 10:08:03 GMT -5
Didn't we just talk about this in another thread? Anyhoo, I'll reiterate what I said there. I recommend #2-5, 41-71 (including the first two annuals), 89-100 (the Kree-Skull War and aftermath), 164-166, 181-200, Annual 10, and 227-285 (the Roger Stern run). Most of the other issues are good, too, but these are the issues I read again and again.
Cei-U! I summon the four-color favorites!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 22:28:41 GMT -5
Crap. Because of this thread I'm now compelled to start picking up Avengers Silver Age Masterworks. Thanks a lot!!!
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 23, 2017 4:34:15 GMT -5
Crap. Because of this thread I'm now compelled to start picking up Avengers Silver Age Masterworks. Thanks a lot!!! I have an extra Essential Avengers #1. PM me and I'll send it to you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 7:27:46 GMT -5
Wow! That's such a great thing to do. Thanks so much. PM sent. Can't wait to read it!
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Post by String on Apr 25, 2017 13:12:54 GMT -5
What's the general opinion on the Celestial Madonna saga?
Marvel just released a new collection of the story featuring these issues: AVENGERS (1963) 124-125, 129-135; CAPTAIN MARVEL (1968) 33; GIANT-SIZE AVENGERS 2-4; AVENGERS: CELESTIALQUEST 1-8
I take it they did so in some regard for her upcoming appearance in the new GoG movie. I've yet to read it.
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 25, 2017 13:30:24 GMT -5
What's the general opinion on the Celestial Madonna saga? Marvel just released a new collection of the story featuring these issues: AVENGERS (1963) 124-125, 129-135; CAPTAIN MARVEL (1968) 33; GIANT-SIZE AVENGERS 2-4; AVENGERS: CELESTIALQUEST 1-8 I take it they did so in some regard for her upcoming appearance in the new GoG movie. I've yet to read it. I love those issues! I started reading The Avengers with #144, but within a few years I had picked up most of the back issues from #130 on (and #2 and #3 of the Giant-Size issues) and I've always had quite a fondness for this storyline. Mantis is a kook! And throw in Kang, Moondragon, Thanos, weird moon stuff, and a bunch of dead guys all working for Kang, and you get a classic story that is Bronze Age Bonkers. I don't really know that the general opinion is. It may not have much appeal for people who aren't enamored of the Bronze Age.
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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 25, 2017 13:38:52 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of the Celestial Madonna storyline but I'm in the minority. I don't like Kang to begin with and I don't like "cosmic" storylines in general. That said, Steve Englehart is a pretty good writer the death of the Swordsman is quite moving , the Legion of the Unliving are one of my favorite super-villain teams, and I liked the backstories for Mantis, Moondragon, the Vision and the Kree. There's a lot of good art, particularly when Dave Cockrum is involved, though I really don't like the art team of Sal Buscema and Joe Staton. Can't comment on Avengers: Celestialquest since I've never heard of it. Cei-U! I summon the ambiguity!
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 26, 2017 4:56:34 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of the Celestial Madonna storyline but I'm in the minority. I don't like Kang to begin with and I don't like "cosmic" storylines in general. That said, Steve Englehart is a pretty good writer the death of the Swordsman is quite moving , the Legion of the Unliving are one of my favorite super-villain teams, and I liked the backstories for Mantis, Moondragon, the Vision and the Kree. There's a lot of good art, particularly when Dave Cockrum is involved, though I really don't like the art team of Sal Buscema and Joe Staton. Can't comment on Avengers: Celestialquest since I've never heard of it. Cei-U! I summon the ambiguity! I agree. It just felt like the story went on and on. I have Celestial Quest and I don't remember the story , although I don't recall it being terrible. I think Thanos was involved.
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Post by String on Apr 26, 2017 15:00:57 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of the Celestial Madonna storyline but I'm in the minority. I don't like Kang to begin with and I don't like "cosmic" storylines in general. That said, Steve Englehart is a pretty good writer the death of the Swordsman is quite moving , the Legion of the Unliving are one of my favorite super-villain teams, and I liked the backstories for Mantis, Moondragon, the Vision and the Kree. There's a lot of good art, particularly when Dave Cockrum is involved, though I really don't like the art team of Sal Buscema and Joe Staton. Can't comment on Avengers: Celestialquest since I've never heard of it. Cei-U! I summon the ambiguity! I agree. It just felt like the story went on and on. I have Celestial Quest and I don't remember the story , although I don't recall it being terrible. I think Thanos was involved. Yeah, Thanos and Mar-Vell make appearances as this story overlaps some with Starlin's cosmic epic. Well, I went ahead and bought the Kindle edition of the trade. Mantis is one of those characters that I've always 'heard' about but never really read about. Her tendency to refer to herself in the third person ('This One') may get annoying after awhile though, I'll have to see. Kang is one of my favorite Avengers villains but he's a double-edged sword for me. Whenever he does appear, it's almost like you're guaranteed an upcoming raucous epic. But given his propensity for paradoxes (and meeting/fighting past and/or future versions of himself), I'm almost guaranteed a headache as well in trying to keep his timelines in focus. I will say, absolute favorite Kang story, Avengers Forever by Busiek and Pacheco.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 26, 2017 15:27:58 GMT -5
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Post by chaykinstevens on Apr 26, 2017 17:06:12 GMT -5
I have Celestial Quest and I don't remember the story , although I don't recall it being terrible. I think Thanos was involved. I didn't mind Celestial Quest, although I wasn't too keen on Jorge Santamaria's art and would have preferred it if Joe Staton had penciled all of it, not just #7. On Englehart's website he says because Santamaria wasn't raised in America's Puritanical tradition, he did a splash page for #5 that can't be reproduced on a website containing children's stories and was replaced in the published version. I think Jim Starlin must have disliked Celestial Quest, as I believe it's among those stories he retconned away in Infinity Abyss by explaining Thanos had created clones of himself.
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