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Post by urrutiap on Apr 21, 2017 11:29:19 GMT -5
Today I'm planning on binge reading some of the original Avengers comic and I just read issue 1 an hour ago.
I'm not gonna read every issue. Mostly the early stuff from the 1960s though.
We're there any good issues from the 1970s with good stories involving bad guys or anything?
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 21, 2017 11:44:45 GMT -5
I love the first 35 or so. But From 16- 35 is nice with the kooky Quartet.
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Post by berkley on Apr 21, 2017 11:59:51 GMT -5
I'd say everything right through to the end of the Englehart run, around Avengers #150; After that, stick to the issues drawn by George Perez, plus a few others to complete the continued stories for which he didn't draw every issue, if you feel like it. You'll probably know yourself what you want to read beyond #150 once you get that far.
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Post by brutalis on Apr 21, 2017 13:38:47 GMT -5
Agree with all the above about being able to read/enjoy anything up until nearly issue 200. Your mileage will vary depending upon your taste in writers and artists. The great thing about Avengers is the variety and mixture of the series continually changing under different writers and artists with all of them helping to make a big wonderful world of enjoyment. Dig through Mike's Amazing world and look at covers just to see what catches your attention.
Standouts are the Cap's Kooky Quartet issues, The Roy Thomas/John Buscema issues and then later on in the 70's Steve Englehart run. If you are going by artistic styling, early Kirby was fun, Heck was truly great, Buscema's can't be beaten and then Perez/Byrne will carry you away.
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 21, 2017 13:45:14 GMT -5
I love the first ten issues. You gotta read the first ten issues.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 21, 2017 16:56:04 GMT -5
Agreed above the above!
I also really enjoyed how issues 215-216 redefined the Molecule Man, a villain who had been pretty bland until then. Jim Shooter also does something unexpected, with Tigra being the one to win the day in a most unconventional (but so sensible) way.
That's also when Captain America learns who Thor and Iron Man really are. Nice character moment there, as the latter two are kind of embarrased for not having told Steve earlier.
The art by Alan Weiss is very good, although it was ill-served by the printing process of the day... his finer lines all but disappear.
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 21, 2017 17:23:41 GMT -5
When I lost interest in comics in the mid-1980s, I happily read The Avengers for as long as I read anything. It was still really good to great for a very long time. The "Under Siege" storyline is one of the Top Five Avengers stories ever. And that's around issue ... #275, I think.
But it apparently fell apart pretty quickly, even with the John Buscema/Tom Palmer art team staying on. I quit reading it regularly after about #280 but I picked it up from time to time. John Byrne got hold of it and decided his creation Marinna should be a major character. Oh it's so bad. And I picked up #300 with a brand-new line-up. The art is still great but it's NOT GOOD at all.
Having Dr. Druid as the leader of the Avengers is not necessarily a bad idea by itself but the direction the Avengers went in was pretty bad.
I'd say ... Don't skip around. Read the whole thing from the start and read up to #280 or so. It's a rare opportunity to read every issue in order FRESH of a series that's one of the greatest long-term narratives in all comic bookdom.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 18:26:29 GMT -5
I love Marvel Masterworks - Volume #1 to Volume #5 ... of which contains the 1st 50 stories of the Avengers. I prefer the early stories of this fable group.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 21, 2017 20:15:19 GMT -5
I love the first ten issues. You gotta read the first ten issues. Yes ! Dude, Think It's great from 1-300. But i'm Biased.  |
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Post by badwolf on Apr 21, 2017 21:31:51 GMT -5
But it apparently fell apart pretty quickly, even with the John Buscema/Tom Palmer art team staying on. I quit reading it regularly after about #280 but I picked it up from time to time. John Byrne got hold of it and decided his creation Marinna should be a major character. Oh it's so bad. But Marrina was killed during the Simonson/Buscema/Palmer run. Did he resurrect her? |
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Post by badwolf on Apr 21, 2017 21:33:25 GMT -5
Today I'm planning on binge reading some of the original Avengers comic and I just read issue 1 an hour ago. I'm not gonna read every issue. Mostly the early stuff from the 1960s though. We're there any good issues from the 1970s with good stories involving bad guys or anything? The Michelinie/Byrne/Perez run beginning with #181 is my favorite era. I'd even go past it a bit through #211, because there's some nice Colan art there. |
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Post by berkley on Apr 21, 2017 22:49:40 GMT -5
On second thought, I think you should do what I did: read about 2/3 or 3/4 of the first 175 issues or so in a completely random selection to reproduce the unpredictability due to things like spotty distribution, timing and selection of reprints, inability to go to the store, lack or otherwise of money, etc, etc.
It worked for me!
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Post by Hoosier X on Apr 22, 2017 2:39:47 GMT -5
But it apparently fell apart pretty quickly, even with the John Buscema/Tom Palmer art team staying on. I quit reading it regularly after about #280 but I picked it up from time to time. John Byrne got hold of it and decided his creation Marinna should be a major character. Oh it's so bad. But Marrina was killed during the Simonson/Buscema/Palmer run. Did he resurrect her? I made a mistake. Marrina was killed before Byrne wrote it. I must have just assumed it was Byrne because it was certainly bad enough to be written by him. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 22, 2017 6:18:16 GMT -5
On second thought, I think you should do what I did: read about 2/3 or 3/4 of the first 175 issues or so in a completely random selection to reproduce the unpredictability due to things like spotty distribution, timing and selection of reprints, inability to go to the store, lack or otherwise of money, etc, etc. It worked for me! ha. But back in the day, comics would catch you up in dialogue or quick panels from what happened in the previous issues. You always felt that you knew what was going on. |
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Post by berkley on Apr 22, 2017 6:49:17 GMT -5
On second thought, I think you should do what I did: read about 2/3 or 3/4 of the first 175 issues or so in a completely random selection to reproduce the unpredictability due to things like spotty distribution, timing and selection of reprints, inability to go to the store, lack or otherwise of money, etc, etc. It worked for me! ha. But back in the day, comics would catch you up in dialogue or quick panels from what happened in the previous issues. You always felt that you knew what was going on. Very true! |
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