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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 21:25:31 GMT -5
Does anyone remember what the hottest (albeit briefly) black and white 80s comics inspired by the success of TMNT were? I've got a few here. Anyone remember any others? Anyone like any of these?
Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters Boris the Bear Fish Police Miami Mice Samurai Penguin
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Post by coinilius on May 26, 2017 22:32:18 GMT -5
At the TMNT Entity blog the blogger has covered quite a few of the Turtle inspired characters and parodies.
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Post by dcindexer on May 27, 2017 0:18:02 GMT -5
Other TMNT knock offs that I remember include: Geriatric Gangrene Jujitsu Gerbils Naive Inter-Dimensional Commando Koalas
Although they were all derivative, I did like the Hamsters back in the day.
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Post by coinilius on May 27, 2017 1:21:42 GMT -5
The Pre-Teen Dirty Gene Kung Fu Kangaroos is also one
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 1:28:13 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I'll add those to the top post in this thread tomorrow.
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Post by codystarbuck on May 27, 2017 11:34:05 GMT -5
Solson had Sultry teenage Super-Foxes. Made AC Comics look like prudes. They also had stuff like The Bushido Blade of Zatoichi Walrus.
Boris the Bear was more of a comic book parody, in general and had a decent lifespan. Fish Police was actually pretty good and spawned a short-lived tv show.
Usagi Yojimbo was often looked at, upon first glance, as being part of that; but, quickly proved otherwise, when you read it.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 27, 2017 11:43:16 GMT -5
Solson had Sultry teenage Super-Foxes. Made AC Comics look like prudes. They also had stuff like The Bushido Blade of Zatoichi Walrus. Boris the Bear was more of a comic book parody, in general and had a decent lifespan. Fish Police was actually pretty good and spawned a short-lived tv show. Usagi Yojimbo was often looked at, upon first glance, as being part of that; but, quickly proved otherwise, when you read it. I was going to say that I don't think that Boris the Bear or Fish Police actually fit in as TMNT knock-offs. As you point out, Boris parodied pretty much everything. Fish Police was a noir police procedural that just happened to have anthropomorphic fish. It really wasn't riffing on TMNT in any way.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 12:08:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the comments guys. I wasn't really intending this to be about TMNT knock-offs, but rather about comics that might have come about because of the success of TMNT. That said, Boris and Fish Police might have occurred without TMNT. It's difficult to say, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2017 12:14:06 GMT -5
Do you guys think TMNT spawned the entire 80s black and white craze?
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Post by codystarbuck on May 27, 2017 13:18:25 GMT -5
Do you guys think TMNT spawned the entire 80s black and white craze? Their sales definitely fueled it, though the fact that it was a cheaper way to print for self-publishing and small press start-ups had more to do with it. Cerebus was already successful, pointing the way towards black & white being a viable publishing format; to say nothing of Warren and the Marvel magazines. The speculating on new black & white comics was definitely down to the Turtles. You see this again and again, with the evolution of the specialty shops and direct market. People speculate of a first issue and sales are way higher than they have a right to be and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. Then, everyone starts losing their shirt on bad investments. In the 70s, It was Shazam #1 and Sandman #1, followed by Howard the Duck #1. The Direct Market wasn't yet the all-powerful force; but, it is dealer/collector speculation driving the surprise sales. Later, it is the direct market, though it's the same kinds of dealers and collectors. You see it with the Turtles spawning fevered buying of new black & white titles, until you see comic shops giving away the things, because they went nuts. Then it is Image and the launches of The Ultraverse and Comics Greatest World and similar start-ups. You also see it with some self-publishing, thanks to the boost Bone got from Cerebus. The 90s was when it all came to a head, with dozens of new start-ups playing to the speculator mentality, while the mainstream companies pushed gimmicks and special issues at it. The end result is a ton of #$%^, more than the usual levels of excrement. Comic dealers start going under because they blew all of their cash on junk they can't return and can't sell and speculators who got burnt left the market. Marvel's Heroes World debacle was just icing on the cake, though that helped kill good publishers, as well as the con artists.
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