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Post by Roquefort Raider on May 29, 2017 9:15:22 GMT -5
And still today the country produces American heroes. Respect.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2017 9:40:45 GMT -5
Many of my family members my Dad, Uncles, Brother, and several cousins all had served in our Military in the past. I'm going to a family picnic in a couple of hours from now to reflect what they had done for our country.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 29, 2017 16:45:02 GMT -5
And still today the country produces American heroes. Respect. And the tribute to these men from the "president" was so touching, so eloquent, so heartfelt. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40084410I would say that the man has no soul, but I don't think he is a man.
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Post by DE Sinclair on May 29, 2017 21:26:29 GMT -5
Our country and our world still produces heroes, both in and out of uniform. I wish we could count the president among them.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 29, 2017 21:35:24 GMT -5
This thread was meant to honor our military not to make political statements. Would that the politicians would do that on Memorial Day.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 29, 2017 23:36:26 GMT -5
At the risk of getting political, I actually have some serious issues with the way that Memorial Day is observed. I say this as someone whose oldest son served in both Afghanistan and in Iraq and who lost one of his best friends in the first Gulf War (less than a year after I attended his wedding). And no, I'm not talking about the crass commercialism and endless sales. I know better than to think that isn't going to happen in capitalist Murica.
First, Memorial Day is not Veteran's Day and it isn't Armed Forces Day. It's to remember those who gave their lives in service to the country. Which leads to the second issue.
I have a really hard time with the constant, "Gave their all for our freedoms" mantra. It's been over 70 years since this country was involved in a conflict that realistically involved any danger to our freedoms. I'm not trying to take anything away from the men and women (including my son and my friends) that fought in more recent wars. But our freedoms were never in danger in those conflicts. They were, almost constantly, in much more danger from people in our Federal, State and Local governments at those times. I firmly believe that Bull Connor, George Wallace and Dick Cheney were much more a threat to our freedom than Kim Il-Sung, Ho Chi Minh or Saddam Hussein.
That said...I do hope that all who fell serving their countries will rest in peace. And that they deserve to be remembered for serving their country.
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Post by Rob Allen on May 30, 2017 13:47:05 GMT -5
And still today the country produces American heroes. Respect. I live in Portland, and as you can imagine, this story has been all over the local news. Last I heard, a GoFundMe campaign for the victims had raised over $700,000.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 30, 2017 15:15:28 GMT -5
At the risk of getting political, I actually have some serious issues with the way that Memorial Day is observed. I say this as someone whose oldest son served in both Afghanistan and in Iraq and who lost one of his best friends in the first Gulf War (less than a year after I attended his wedding). And no, I'm not talking about the crass commercialism and endless sales. I know better than to think that isn't going to happen in capitalist Murica. First, Memorial Day is not Veteran's Day and it isn't Armed Forces Day. It's to remember those who gave their lives in service to the country. Which leads to the second issue. I have a really hard time with the constant, "Gave their all for our freedoms" mantra. It's been over 70 years since this country was involved in a conflict that realistically involved any danger to our freedoms. I'm not trying to take anything away from the men and women (including my son and my friends) that fought in more recent wars. But our freedoms were never in danger in those conflicts are were, almost constantly, in much more danger from people in our Federal, State and Local governments at those times. I firmly believe that Bull Connor, George Wallace and Dick Cheney were much more a threat to our freedom than Kim Il-Sung, Ho Chi Minh or Saddam Hussein. That said...I do hope that all who fell serving their countries will rest in peace. And that they deserve to be remembered for serving their country. Slam, I couldn't agree more. So glad you said this, especially because of your unique vantage point. Too often we swallow the red, white and blue Kool-Aid because it takes the edge off. Thank you. So glad also that your son is home.
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