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Post by shaxper on Oct 21, 2014 22:11:43 GMT -5
...iiiiit's time! The CCF Long Halloween: Week 4
Place your #2 choice here, along with a detailed description! Suggested formatStory Title: Creative Team: From: Publication Year: Explanation of choice:
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Post by shaxper on Oct 21, 2014 22:15:30 GMT -5
shaxper's #2: “When the Gods Crave Flesh!”writer: Steve Gerber pencils: Pablo Marcos inks: Pablo Marcos From: Tales of the Zombie #3 Publication Year: 1973 Explanation: This issue is the convergence of so many great things all coming together in one ultimate horror story. First off, you've got the rich tradition of the old Atlas monster stories written from a second person perspective, as if you yourself are the monster. I have no idea whether this started with Atlas, or whether they were borrowing from somewhere else, but there were a number of early Atlas stories that followed this tradition of inverting our expectations. Instead of spending the story being terrified of the monster, you could BE the monster, and that was often even more eerie and tragic, while also offering a far more unique escapist perspective. I've always been a sucker for those, and one of those early stories, featuring a semi-conscious zombie named Simon Garth, apparently left an impression upon folks as well; an impression strong enough to see the single-appearance character resurrected to star in his own Marvel magazine two decades later (Tales of the Zombie). Second, there's Steve Gerber, who was slowly perfecting his mastery of telling a story from the perspective of a dim-witted but innately tragic (and somehow innocent) monster, first with Man-Thing and then, concurrently, with Simon Garth. I always felt Garth worked better for this, as the character had a little more humanity to him, some brief recollections of his previous life, a heavily symbolic meaning behind a cold-hearted industrialist becoming a zombie, a tragic backstory allowing him to seek a sort of redemption as a monster, and a touching/tragic bond with his surviving daughter. In addition, while Gerber often tried to get Man-Thing away from the horror genre (Gerber has been on record as saying he was never a fan of horror), he generally kept Garth grounded in his element and used that space to fully explore what it means to be a zombie who is vaguely aware that he is a zombie and once was something else, rather than having the character get swooped up in complicated plot lines involving interdimensional wizards, barbarians, and anthropomorphic ducks. Man-Thing was fun, but Simon Garth was where Gerber really mastered his narrative voice. Finally, there's Simon Garth, himself. Every single Simon Garth story is an amazing one (including the first and final ones -- the only two not written by Gerber), but this third issue was where the character and series really found their center. In this issue, we have pages upon pages of Garth reflecting in his dim, barely comprehending way, upon what it's like to be a zombie, calmly musing on how he is equally indifferent to the wind, the storm, and the python trying to kill him. It's incredibly powerful stuff in it's own right, but then we proceed to an actual story where so much goes right. First off, we get our firmest sense yet of what Garth's daughter means to him, even from beyond the grave and with limited consciousness. Second, we have our cast of characters expanded to include all the figures who will play a critical role in the series by its (rushed) close. And, third, we have a hauntingly beautiful climax in which Garth, in an incredibly disturbing and touching moment, helps to put an unfortunate creature that has fallen due to her own poor judgments (much as he has) out of her misery. Unforgettable moment. That Garth seems jealous of her after doing this only further heightens the beauty of Gerber's masterful characterization for a being that is barely a being. And that Pablo Marcos art -- WOW!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 22:41:25 GMT -5
The Walking Dead 2003-present More drama than horror, but with an ongoing underlying sense of uncertainty that I think is as good as an ongoing horror can be. There is no character loyalty, your favorite character in the series could be dead next issue and completely forgotten in a month. The characters aren't the focus, the zombies aren't even the focus. Humanity is the focus. It's interesting watching civilization be destroyed, rebuild, be destroyed again, and rebuild from the scraps of scraps to be eventually destroyed yet again.
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Post by shaxper on Oct 21, 2014 22:47:16 GMT -5
The Walking Dead 2003-present More drama than horror, but with an ongoing underlying sense of uncertainty that I think is as good as an ongoing horror can be. There is no character loyalty, your favorite character in the series could be dead next issue and completely forgotten in a month. The characters aren't the focus, the zombies aren't even the focus. Humanity is the focus. It's interesting watching civilization be destroyed, rebuild, be destroyed again, and rebuild from the scraps of scraps to be eventually destroyed yet again. Technically, you can only count the first 1.5 years or so of Walking Dead for this event since the rest was published after October of 2004 and is, therefore, not a "classic comic" by the board's definition. Great selection and write-up, though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 23:05:04 GMT -5
Story: Calliope by Neil Gaiman, Kelly Jones, Malcolm Jones III, cover by Dave McKean From: Sandman #17; July 1990 A tale of exploitation, selfishness and vengeance. The muse Callippe has been held captive and abused by a a pair of writers and has had enough, seeking vengeance, she calls upon the Furies, who direct her to her former lover, Morpheus king of dreams for aid and succor. Morpheus vengeance upon Madoc is particularly fitting, poetic justice for he who has wronged poetry incarnate. The story is horrific on so many levels for me, the capability for inhumanity on the parts of Fry and Madoc, the glee with which they abuse and exploit Calliope, the levels of rationalization and selfishness in trying to justify his actions, all terrify me because as someone who is a published writer and aspires to do more, it all hits a little too close to home. How many times have I thought or said, I would kill for an idea as I struggled with the blank page, but to be faced with the depths to which one can sink in the pursuit of inspiration is a little like staring into the abyss and having it stare back at you. But even without that, the stark brutality and glee in which it is partaken by Fry and Madoc is truly terrifying in and of itself. A well crafted done in one story, but one that informs the entire Sandman saga to some degree, it is a masterwork of craft on a technical level, but it is the emotional and psychological stimulus it evokes upon reading it that makes this a masterpiece of horror for me. -M
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Post by shaxper on Oct 22, 2014 4:34:42 GMT -5
Story: Calliope by Neil Gaiman, Kelly Jones, Malcolm Jones III, cover by Dave McKean From: Sandman #17; July 1990 A tale of exploitation, selfishness and vengeance. The muse Callippe has been held captive and abused by a a pair of writers and has had enough, seeking vengeance, she calls upon the Furies, who direct her to her former lover, Morpheus king of dreams for aid and succor. Morpheus vengeance upon Madoc is particularly fitting, poetic justice for he who has wronged poetry incarnate. The story is horrific on so many levels for me, the capability for inhumanity on the parts of Fry and Madoc, the glee with which they abuse and exploit Calliope, the levels of rationalization and selfishness in trying to justify his actions, all terrify me because as someone who is a published writer and aspires to do more, it all hits a little too close to home. How many times have I thought or said, I would kill for an idea as I struggled with the blank page, but to be faced with the depths to which one can sink in the pursuit of inspiration is a little like staring into the abyss and having it stare back at you. But even without that, the stark brutality and glee in which it is partaken by Fry and Madoc is truly terrifying in and of itself. A well crafted done in one story, but one that informs the entire Sandman saga to some degree, it is a masterwork of craft on a technical level, but it is the emotional and psychological stimulus it evokes upon reading it that makes this a masterpiece of horror for me. -M I came so close to picking this one for my #5. Still not sure that going with 24 Hours was the better choice.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Oct 22, 2014 10:45:08 GMT -5
Thwhtguardian's #2: Drink Deep, Vampire!
Written by ? Art by Joe Sinnott From Strange Tales #9(though I originally read it in Dracula Lives!#2) Published in 1952(republished in 1973)
I mentioned earlier that Dracula was one of my favorite novels, and though not an adaptation of Dracula this is by far my favorite vampire comic. Strangely enough, it's not the hammer horror kind of mood that Sinnott brings to the story that really draws me to this story(though I do love the way he draws the horrified faces of the people in this story) but rather its the dark humor that really makes this story for me. The idea of a guy seeing a vampire attack and thinking to himself, "Hey, I bet I could make a mint off these guys if I offered to deliver them blood to their crypt!" just makes me smile. I know that's not the usual reaction you're looking for in a horror story but I love the way humor can play off of horror, and the story isn't with out horror either as it has all the usual trappings; the heavy inks, the faces drawn in terror and a twist ending...the blood he was delivering was drained from the vampire's own bodies while they slept!
This is truly one of my favorite horror comics I've ever read, and the only thing that really kept it from my number one slot was the fact that the vampires themselves were so generic looking, heck they were such stock vampires that you couldn't even tell them apart which is weird because Sinnot was usually good at making each character unique. </div>
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 12:00:05 GMT -5
2. "Soul of Horror"Creative Team: Archie Goodwin (writer), Angelo Torres (artist) From: Eerie #3 Publication Year: 1966 Explanation of choice: As forecast earlier, this is yet another pick from the 1970 Eerie Yearbook, which obviously made an immense impression on me as a kid. Once again, too, it also appeared in some CBR list or another I participated in a few years back. Looking back, I see that this was the first story in that fateful Yearbook, & did it ever start things off with a ... well, I don't want to say "bang," really -- more like a rumbling, sepulchral minor chord from a sinister brass bell. This one is unsettlingly grim & then gets inexorably grimmer. I didn't know it at the time, but "Soul of Horror" marked my introduction to Lovecraft, because major plot elements pretty much come straight from "The Dunwich Horror," though Goodwin, not sharing Lovecraft's natural reticence, incorporates even more morbid details that The Master did or for that matter ever would have in relating a masterful chronicle of backwoods degeneracy tainted by otherworldly evil. The brooding atmosphere of menace is conveyed so strongly as to border on the palpable throughout.
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Post by Crimebuster on Oct 22, 2014 14:13:46 GMT -5
2. Boy Comics #7There are a lot of shocking and horrifying stories in the pages of Boy Comics, but the story in #7 has to take the cake. It's a classic haunted house/ murder mystery tale. A group of people, none of whom like each other, are gathered together in a decrepit old mansion to hear the last will of the rich old jerk who lived there. Needless to say, people start getting horribly murdered. And with a storm raging outside, and the telephone lines down, the terrified people have to try and survive the night knowing that a killer stalks among them. But is the killer a mortal man? Is it a ghost? Or is it some kind of demon? Is that hideous face just a mask, or has someone really given their soul in pawn to the devil just to get rich? As the story progresses, Crimebuster and the others are hunted down in some of the most graphic and shocking murders in the title's long run. Biro says in the intro that he thinks his readers "like it rough," but there's rough and then there's stuff like this scene, where the killer douses a living victim with gasoline and then stuffs him head first into a furnace: On the next page, the victim manages to get out and runs around screaming, on fire, until he finally dies. Finally, Crimebuster comes up with a scheme to unmask the killer. In classic fashion, he gathers the surviving people together and plays a little trick to get the guy to reveal himself. Just like you see in the movies and TV all the time. But this is why I love the series so much. Because while Biro uses these classic tropes (or cliches if you like), he always grounds them in reality, giving them a realistic twist. Honestly, if you unmask a dangerous murderer in a situation like this, what do you think would really happen? Yeah, well, that's exactly what happens here: Crimebuster's plan works, only it also completely backfires - realizing the gig is up, the guy simply pulls out a gun and starts executing everyone in the room in order to cover his tracks! WHOOPS!!! If you want to give yourself nightmares, you can read the whole story right here online for free. But just keep in mind while you're reading it: This series was specifically and explicitly aimed at and marketed to children!
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 22, 2014 15:22:32 GMT -5
Hoosier X's #2: "Collectors"
Writer: Neal Gaiman
Penciller: Mike Dringenberg Inker: Malcolm Jones III Colorist: Robbie Busch Letterer: Todd Klein Sandman #14
1990
When it comes to Neil Gaiman's Sandman, I could never decide between The Doll's House, Season of Mists or The Kindly Ones as my favorite story arc. (Lately, I'll most likely say Season of Mists. But after looking at some of the images from "Collectors," I think I'm tending toward The Doll's House again.)
But without a doubt, my favorite single issue of Sandman is #14, "Collectors," a horrible horrible horrible tale that Mr. Gaiman should be very ashamed of.
Sandman #14 is just one part of "The Doll's House," an epic tale about Rose looking for her brother and Morpheus tying up some loose ends in the wake of "Preludes and Nocturnes." There is much to love and admire in "The Doll's House," and if I knew where it was in storage, I would happily dig it out and read it again. But the standout chapter is "Collectors," and it is a powerful and chilling story on its own.
Rose's adventures bring her to a hotel that is hosting an unconventional convention. It is a meeting of serial killers, an event where they congregate to socialize, attend seminars, trade tips and do all sorts of things people do at conventions.
I won't describe it in any detail. Most of us are familiar with "The Doll's House." Those that aren't should make an effort to get a copy - get it from the library if you have to - because it's must-read for comics fans, comparable with Watchmen or "Brainiac's Super Revenge."
"Collectors" was creepy when it first came out, and it only gets scarier and scarier as time goes on. That's because it gets more real. There are enough serial killers in the world that they could conceivably get together and hold a convention. Every time I see another story about another serial killer or a series of unexplained deaths, "Collectors" pops into my head. I clicked on a link about serial killers a few weeks ago and there were 12 out of 20 that I never heard of, all over the world, in the Andes, in the Ukraine, in Mexico, in Germany, and many of them had death counts over 20 with dozens more suspected.
It's hard to be scared of vampires or werewolves when you think about the real horrors in the world.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 22, 2014 15:23:52 GMT -5
2. Boy Comics #7 Hooray! Crimebuster and Squeeks!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 16:05:29 GMT -5
My thoughts exactly!
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Post by shaxper on Oct 22, 2014 16:52:30 GMT -5
This is a first for me. I've actually previously read and loved EVERY nominated entry thus far
...except for the Crime buster one.
Dang you, Scott Harris!
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Post by coke & comics on Oct 22, 2014 19:31:30 GMT -5
"From Hell" Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell Taboo #2-7, From Hell #1-11, 1989-1999 The tale of Jack the Ripper, from his childhood through his descent into madness and murder. Memorable scenes include a walk around London exploring the ritualistic symbolism woven into the architecture. This sacred geometry will help Ripper choose the spots of his murders. It is also the story of the desperate cop charged with stopping the gruesome trail of death. At times plodding, always disturbing, with truly horrific moments. The true strength of the writing is revealed in the appendix which takes us scene by scene through the comic. Some facts are known. Within the holes, many authors have filled in theories. Alan Moore takes some of these facts and theories, and fills in any remaining details with fiction, impressively creating a seamless narrative, and brings you to a world where the Ripper seems scarily rational.
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Post by coke & comics on Oct 22, 2014 20:55:41 GMT -5
The Walking Dead 2003-present Story: Calliope by Neil Gaiman, Kelly Jones, Malcolm Jones III, cover by Dave McKean From: Sandman #17; July 1990 I considered both Walking Dead and Sandman for my list. If I went with Sandman, Calliope would have been my choice.
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