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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 24, 2017 14:35:43 GMT -5
Doom Patrol #94 - although the title isn't mentioned, Rita recalls a movie she worked on in Argentina, where an Argentine cowboy taught her how to throw a bolas. Thanks for this info! I can make up an Argentina-themed 1950s movie for the filmography. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Aug 24, 2017 14:44:24 GMT -5
Curious minds need to know. As I am reading through the DP Omnibus it struck me that originally Rita Farr enlarged/shrank her entire body. Then suddenly during a later story (would have to dig up the issue) she suddenly just enlarges one arm/hand to slap Mento across the way from her. No explanation given for this sudden physical change in her growth ability within the story. So I has to ask the question: was it Arnold Drake or Bruno Premiani who came up with this extremely odd idea which does suit the "freak" aspect of the DP? Anybody know or hear of anything about this? Did Bruno write something in the story and forget to include or explain it? Or did Bruno come up with the idea on his own just to keep himself interested and creative without becoming bored with the series? noyt that it truly matters but it quickly becomes a regular aspect of Rita's abilities and is artistically quite the oddity when you see it. Then Dick Giordano draws her enlarging one leg to reach the ground safely while "falling" in a Brave and the Bold issue and that is verbally addressed by Rita in the story while doing it. so from here on in Rita continues to enlarge/stretch her arms and legs while remaining "human" sized. Quite the quirky new power up... An erudite poster referred to this recently here... classiccomics.org/thread/3785/comic-lovers-memories?page=12I love it that Rita gave Mento a jumbo-slap upside the head  |
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Post by Cei-U! on Sept 2, 2017 11:08:08 GMT -5
Bruno Premiani was an old school comics illustrator who worked full script and neither had nor sought input into the series' plotting. Any modifications to Rita's powers came from either writer Arnold Drake, editor Murray Boltinoff, or both.
Cei-U!
I summon the clarification!
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 11, 2017 10:03:33 GMT -5
I was going to start the Grant Morrison Doom Patrol but the online source that I'm using has all the issues of that particular series of The Doom Patrol that started in 1987. (The Morrison issues started with #19.) And I've read a few of the pre-Morrison issues over the years and I liked them. I found them intriguing. So I decided to read the pre-Morrison issues until I get bored, then I'll jump ahead to Grant Morrison. I like the first issue a lot. Above average late 1980s comic-book storytelling. Very nice art. I miss Rita Farr though. |
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Post by brutalis on Oct 11, 2017 10:33:39 GMT -5
This run gets overlooked historically and receives very little love in my opinion. If not for Kupperberg there would be no "NEW" Doom Patrol for Morrison to have worked with. I personally liked the mix of the new creations Kupperberg came up with and liked that Negative Man and Elasti Girl and the Chief remained dead with Robotman the lone sad survivor. Over time now it is only Rita Farr who has remained dead and everyone else has survived. Guess she wasn't freak enough like the others?!?  |
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 17, 2017 14:54:45 GMT -5
I am so glad I decided to read the early issues of the 1987 Doom Patrol series, #1 to #18, before Grant Morrison took over the writing. I was just about to start with #19 (they are available online), but I've read a couple of these issues over the years (#6 and #16) and I found them intriguing so I decided to start with #1 and see if they are any good. I'm up to #6 and I'm finding them to be great late-1980s fun! I especially love Arani Caulding (Celsius) as a stubborn hard-ass with a fanatical devotion to her mission of finding her husband Niles (the Chief) but I also like the growing conflict between Larry (Negative Man) and Val (Negative Woman) over who really has the right to the powers of the "negative entity." And then there's Cliff Steele, charging around and Ben Grimm-ing every issue. But he's a lot more like early "I hate everything!" Ben Grimm than later "I accept it but I am sad sometimes" Ben Grimm. The letters page in #6 said there was a Doom Patrol/Suicide Squad Special on sale, and I found that. Remembering how bad a lot of such specials were back then, I wasn't expecting much ... and I was right to have low expectations. The Rocket Reds show up as well. The Suicide Squad is: Rick Flag, the Thinker, Psi, the Weasel, and Mister 104. And everybody except Flag is killed! It's very disappointing. |
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Post by hondobrode on Oct 18, 2017 8:11:21 GMT -5
Hadn't noticed that until you pointed it out about Rita.
Here's hoping
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 18, 2017 9:19:48 GMT -5
Every time they reboot, it's OK to change just about everything. Lex Luthor is a corrupt business man who has managed to evade the law and can even become president. The Penguin is no longer an adventurer-criminal, he's a crime boss masquerading as a night club attendant. The Riddler has become a manipulative psychopathic killer a la Hannibal Lector. Wonder Woman is no longer made of clay, she's the daughter of Zeus.
But for some reason, Rita Farr has to be dead in every version of the Doom Patrol.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Oct 18, 2017 15:44:02 GMT -5
Every time they reboot, it's OK to change just about everything. Lex Luthor is a corrupt business man who has managed to evade the law and can even become president. The Penguin is no longer an adventurer-criminal, he's a crime boss masquerading as a night club attendant. The Riddler has become a manipulative psychopathic killer a la Hannibal Lector. Wonder Woman is no longer made of clay, she's the daughter of Zeus. But for some reason, Rita Farr has to be dead in every version of the Doom Patrol. I thought she was alive in John Byrne's 2004 series. |
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Post by Cheswick on Oct 18, 2017 18:01:42 GMT -5
Every time they reboot, it's OK to change just about everything. Lex Luthor is a corrupt business man who has managed to evade the law and can even become president. The Penguin is no longer an adventurer-criminal, he's a crime boss masquerading as a night club attendant. The Riddler has become a manipulative psychopathic killer a la Hannibal Lector. Wonder Woman is no longer made of clay, she's the daughter of Zeus. But for some reason, Rita Farr has to be dead in every version of the Doom Patrol. I thought she was alive in John Byrne's 2004 series. She was also alive in Giffen's 2009 series. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 18, 2017 18:19:16 GMT -5
Oh, shoot. I know she was present in at least one later version of the Doom Patrol.
I should have said: "But for some reason, Rita Farr has to be dead in the current version of the Doom Patrol."
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Post by Spike-X on Oct 21, 2017 20:40:41 GMT -5
I'm up to the earliest Beast Boy stories, and I noticed in his first appearance he was called 'Craig', before they changed it to 'Gar' without explanation a couple issues later.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 21:08:51 GMT -5
I'm up to the earliest Beast Boy stories, and I noticed in his first appearance he was called 'Craig', before they changed it to 'Gar' without explanation a couple issues later. Now, you've mentioned it and I was wondering the same thing ... pretty sloppy editing on the part of DC Comics. Good catch here. |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Oct 22, 2017 8:20:36 GMT -5
I'm up to the earliest Beast Boy stories, and I noticed in his first appearance he was called 'Craig', before they changed it to 'Gar' without explanation a couple issues later. Craig Logan - wasn't he in Bros? |
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Post by Spike-X on Oct 23, 2017 3:14:08 GMT -5
I'm up to the earliest Beast Boy stories, and I noticed in his first appearance he was called 'Craig', before they changed it to 'Gar' without explanation a couple issues later. Craig Logan - wasn't he in Bros? You went deep for that one, man. I'm impressed. |
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