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Post by berkley on Mar 30, 2015 23:11:06 GMT -5
I first became aware of the Baron in the original Books of Magic mini and picked up cheap back issues of NF later. Also got the Nu52 version, which were some of the better comics coming out under that imprint. Naturally, they sold so badly we probably won't see the franchise again unless Wolfman makes a deal to publish it elsewhere. Wouldn't mind seeing that, except Colan's artwork was so important to the original i find it hard to imagine enjoying it with anyone else. Looking at the wiki article, I see there was a 90s revival that I didn't know about, as well as the more recent one from a couple years back. But Colan didn't work on that one either, unfortunately. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 2:23:08 GMT -5
I first became aware of the Baron in the original Books of Magic mini and picked up cheap back issues of NF later. Also got the Nu52 version, which were some of the better comics coming out under that imprint. Naturally, they sold so badly we probably won't see the franchise again unless Wolfman makes a deal to publish it elsewhere. Wouldn't mind seeing that, except Colan's artwork was so important to the original i find it hard to imagine enjoying it with anyone else. Looking at the wiki article, I see there was a 90s revival that I didn't know about, as well as the more recent one from a couple years back. But Colan didn't work on that one either, unfortunately. Each series featured a different Night force crew as Winters recruited new members, so it kind of works that each had their own look. The new52 series had interior art by Tom Mandrake (who as much as I like Gene Colan's work blew the doors off Colan's Spectre work from the '87 series with is art for Ostrander's Spectre series) and gorgeous cover art by Leonardo Manco. The 90s series started with Brent Anderson art for the first arc (3 issues) had a 1 issue fill in by Eduardo Baretto, an arc by Sean Martinborough (whose work I greatly admire and who actually wrote a how to book on doing noir art in comics that is quite good), but the last handful of issues were by Matt Smith (who I like but is not stylistically a match for this series) and Sergio Cariello who like Baretto is solid and serviceable but not spectacular. The last issue does sport a cover by Gene Colan inked by Kevin Nowlan though. That 90s series was tied into DC attempt to do a Weirdoverse (along with Scare Tactics, Challengers of the Unknown, and Books of Fate) and took part in the Convergence cross-over among the 4 titles. I liked the early issues of the 90 series but like Scare Tactics I only read the first few before dropping to stay in my budget at the time-I've since gone back and gotten and read Scare Tactics and keep an eye out for the other Weirdoverse titles when I can find them cheap. The new52 series started strong, and I really liked the premise at first with the Revolutionary era mystery at the heart of it, but it really felt like Wolfman wanted to do a longer piece and lost his way to rush to an end. I ended up liking it, but not loving it. -M |
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Post by shaxper on Apr 3, 2015 14:40:54 GMT -5
Started reading the series the other day and am now halfway through.
Anyone know why, beginning with #6, the indica states it's Volume 2?
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Post by shaxper on Apr 10, 2015 18:52:47 GMT -5
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Post by rom on Sept 19, 2016 12:54:32 GMT -5
I was a fan of the Wolfman/Colan original Night Force series back in the day (though I never had all of the issues). Excellent book, and the Gene Colan art was incredible. Colan's art seems to be tailor-made for a horror series (Tomb of Dracula, etc.) Several years ago, DC announced plans to reprint this original series & solicited it as a HC. That feel through, and it was then solicited as a color Trade. That fell through as well - too bad, since I always wanted to see this title reprinted in it's entirety. DC did reprint the first 2-3 issues in a floppy that came out around this same time, however - which I guess was better than nothing.
Colan did a lot of his best artwork for DC in the '80's - i.e., NF, the underrated sci-fi/social commentary series Jemm Son of Saturn, the great detective/noir mini series' Nathaniel Dusk, his run on the Batman comics, etc. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 19, 2016 16:46:20 GMT -5
I have the entire first run by Wolfman and Colan. It's classic.
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Post by rom on Apr 9, 2017 23:00:00 GMT -5
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 9, 2017 23:24:59 GMT -5
Bravo !
That's a series that the Young Animal imprint could bring back
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 0:13:36 GMT -5
They solicited in 2012 when they were launching the new52 era Night Force series by Wolfman and Mandrake and cancelled it because it did not get enough preorders (even had a DC Comics Presents mini trade of the first 4 issues a year or so before that to promote it)...  and then that last Night Force mini sold horribly (it was under the then cancellation level of sales for the last 2/3 of the series but they had contracted for the whole thing so didn't cancel it iirc). Bravo ! That's a series that the Young Animal imprint could bring back Yeah, if sales on the 2012 series by Wolfman and Mandrake are any indication of interest level in the property these days, I would say not likely. Even some gorgeous covers by Leonardo Manco couldn't inspire people to buy the book.  Issue #1 debuted with sales of 13,174 when cancellation level was at about 18-20K for the new52 books. The last issue, #7 sold 6,402 copies. I don't see them trying Night Force again any time soon. -M |
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Post by hondobrode on Apr 10, 2017 4:24:56 GMT -5
I remember, but, with the proper spin, and Young Animal is Vertigo 2.0 with edgy DC properties.
They ought to try it again.
That's why Young Animal would help to push it.
It fits more to that imprint than the DCU, really.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 11:03:33 GMT -5
I remember, but, with the proper spin, and Young Animal is Vertigo 2.0 with edgy DC properties. They ought to try it again. That's why Young Animal would help to push it. It fits more to that imprint than the DCU, really. The Young Animal brand has gotten some critical acclaim, but it hasn't translated to sales in the least. It hasn't pushed sales one iota. None of the books are good sellers and the brand is marginalized in the minds of Wednesday Warriors because they are not firmly connected with the shared universe and don't "matter" so they have to buy their bi-weekly dose of books that do matter instead. The market for marginal books form the big 2 is not good (hell the market for their main books are not good) and flooding the market with new titles that have no chance to catch an audience is part of the problem, not part of the solution. -M |
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Post by brutalis on Apr 10, 2017 11:08:18 GMT -5
I had pre-ordered this back in 2012 and just did so again. If it is pre-orders which drive whether or not a series is actually printed then everyone should be ordering so they know the desire is there for the actual product. If it weren't for fans over the years speaking loudly there might not have ever been any incentive for Marvel to put out money to get MOKF out in Omnibus format. Let DC know we want the Wolfman and Colan adventures of the Baron!!!
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Post by rom on Apr 10, 2017 18:38:56 GMT -5
I had pre-ordered this back in 2012 and just did so again. If it is pre-orders which drive whether or not a series is actually printed then everyone should be ordering so they know the desire is there for the actual product. If it weren't for fans over the years speaking loudly there might not have ever been any incentive for Marvel to put out money to get MOKF out in Omnibus format. Let DC know we want the Wolfman and Colan adventures of the Baron!!! I pre-ordered both the 2011/2012 NF reprint collections (the HC & the later TPB), and they were both cancelled. I also pre-ordered the 2017 hopefully forthcoming NF reprint collection, and truly hope this actually comes out. I agree that if it weren't for fans clamoring online for the reprints like the MOKF/DHOKF Omni collections (which are almost complete at this point), Marvel would never have known there was such a demand. I myself posted quite a bit regarding my strong desire for MOKF reprints specifically over the years, and I like to think that I may have played at least a small role in this great series finally getting reprinted. I always post (or contribute to posts) discussing the reprint collections I want; I only collect reprint CE's these days, and there's a plethora of material I would pay good $ for if it were reprinted. Much of these are DC's series/mini-series from the '80's, i.e. Classic Warlord (Mike Grell), Arak Son of Thunder, Firestorm the Nuclear Man, Atari Force, Spanner's Galaxy, This Barren Earth, and many others. |
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Post by brutalis on Nov 7, 2017 8:17:19 GMT -5
Received from Amazon my copy of the Hardcover for Night Force. Tis a thing of beauty. Love that the dark black/shadows of the cover are infused with purple coloring make them less flat and providing a deeper tone to them. Inside is just as scrumptious to behold. Really glad this was finally printed and looking forward to delving once more into the shadows with Wolfman and Colan as my guides...
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Post by Jesse on Nov 8, 2017 13:56:56 GMT -5
I'm really looking forward to checking out the quality of this newly recolored version when I get to my LCS later this month.
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