|
Post by dbutler69 on Aug 15, 2017 13:32:33 GMT -5
I don't know exactly when he ditched his secret identity, but it was pretty early on. In the 60's, I think. It was before he got his solo strip in Detective. Ah, so it would be in the Infantino Flash era, probably about 1963. Thanks.
|
|
|
Post by Mormel on Aug 15, 2017 14:51:23 GMT -5
except Luke Cage is an alias a name he adopted after escaping prison, his real name he never uses or lets people know. -M Sure. But when he files his taxes, doesn't he do so under the name Luke Cage?
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 15:35:36 GMT -5
JesseIn Comics, my best guess would be Iron Man #55 of which he revealed his identity to the world. I've don't have a copy nor the Marvel Masterworks that contains it ... but, I've think that he revealed it early not later. From NewsaramaIf there was an award given out for the superhero who has gone public with his identity – and then walked it back – the most times, it would likely have to go to Tony Stark as Iron Man. In the 1998 Iron Man/Captain America annual, Stark used a villain's technology to make the world forget that he was Iron Man, only for Iron Man #55 to see him unmasked again – and then, for it to happen one more time in Civil War, as well. None of these match up to Robert Downey Jr.'s off-hand remark at the end of the original Iron Man movie, of course, but there are very, very few things in the world that can really beat Downey when he's on his disarming, off-handedly troublemaking best.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2017 15:45:02 GMT -5
except Luke Cage is an alias a name he adopted after escaping prison, his real name he never uses or lets people know. -M Sure. But when he files his taxes, doesn't he do so under the name Luke Cage? Not unless he had it legally changed to Luke Cage. You can't use an alias on tax forms legally. Of course, as an escaped convict, he would have issues using any name to file taxes unless he bought falsified identity documents. At some point, I assume they dealt with his status as an escaped con, a pardon or some such, but I can't remember a particular story that addressed it when I read through all the pre-Iron Fist team up issues of Hero for Hire and Power Man. -M
|
|
|
Post by Reptisaurus! on Aug 15, 2017 15:50:25 GMT -5
There's the weird situation in the early '60s though where Johnny Storm is widely known as the Human Torch in FF, but is keeping his identity secret over in the pages of Strange Tales. That was just a goof on Stan Lee's part though. I'm not so sure that was Stan's fault. Stan just plotted those stories. Larry Lieber scripted them and my understanding is that he worked with full scripts not Marvel method. I suspect it was probably Lieber's fault. On the other hand, Stan was the editor of the book, so he should have caught it. But given his work-load at the time I don't think that there was a ton of editing going on. I just assumed that the early Strange Tales stuff happened before Stan decided that continuity was a thing.
|
|
|
Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 15, 2017 16:21:16 GMT -5
I'm not so sure that was Stan's fault. Stan just plotted those stories. Larry Lieber scripted them and my understanding is that he worked with full scripts not Marvel method. I suspect it was probably Lieber's fault. On the other hand, Stan was the editor of the book, so he should have caught it. But given his work-load at the time I don't think that there was a ton of editing going on. I just assumed that the early Strange Tales stuff happened before Stan decided that continuity was a thing. Maybe kinda. But they made a big thing about various FF members crossing over into Torch's solo book. And the story that "fixed" the secret ID issue referenced earlier FF stories. I really just think it was a cock-up on the part of Leiber and Lee both.
|
|
|
Post by Cei-U! on Sept 2, 2017 11:23:31 GMT -5
Jesse In Comics, my best guess would be Iron Man #55 of which he revealed his identity to the world. I've don't have a copy nor the Marvel Masterworks that contains it ... but, I've think that he revealed it early not later. From NewsaramaIf there was an award given out for the superhero who has gone public with his identity – and then walked it back – the most times, it would likely have to go to Tony Stark as Iron Man. In the 1998 Iron Man/Captain America annual, Stark used a villain's technology to make the world forget that he was Iron Man, only for Iron Man #55 to see him unmasked again – and then, for it to happen one more time in Civil War, as well. None of these match up to Robert Downey Jr.'s off-hand remark at the end of the original Iron Man movie, of course, but there are very, very few things in the world that can really beat Downey when he's on his disarming, off-handedly troublemaking best. Wrong Iron Man #55, CC. The one you've posted the cover for is from 1973, looooooooooooong before Stark went public with his secret identity. The #55 mentioned in the quote above is from 2002. As to when specifically Tony let the world in on his being Iron Man, I can only tell you it happened after I stopped following Marvel in '86. Cei-U! I summon the misattribution!
|
|
|
Post by spoon on Sept 2, 2017 13:01:10 GMT -5
Do any of the Legion of Super Heroes have secret identities? Not in any meaningful way. Depending on who did the writing, it seemed to be public knowledge; certainly when Colossal Boy's mother was the President of Earth. The superhero names were standard comic book stuff; but, they tended to be used more like a pilot's call sign. Or stage names for famous singers/musicians. The Legion are like celebrities are usually operate with official sanction. You rarely see a Legionnaire who wears a mask. One notable exception was Sensor Girl. That was a masked identity that Princess Projectra adopted when she returned to the Legion in mid-80s comics. Her identity was secret even from her teammates.
|
|
|
Post by spoon on Sept 2, 2017 13:08:54 GMT -5
Jesse In Comics, my best guess would be Iron Man #55 of which he revealed his identity to the world. I've don't have a copy nor the Marvel Masterworks that contains it ... but, I've think that he revealed it early not later. From NewsaramaIf there was an award given out for the superhero who has gone public with his identity – and then walked it back – the most times, it would likely have to go to Tony Stark as Iron Man. In the 1998 Iron Man/Captain America annual, Stark used a villain's technology to make the world forget that he was Iron Man, only for Iron Man #55 to see him unmasked again – and then, for it to happen one more time in Civil War, as well. None of these match up to Robert Downey Jr.'s off-hand remark at the end of the original Iron Man movie, of course, but there are very, very few things in the world that can really beat Downey when he's on his disarming, off-handedly troublemaking best. Wrong Iron Man #55, CC. The one you've posted the cover for is from 1973, looooooooooooong before Stark went public with his secret identity. The #55 mentioned in the quote above is from 2002. As to when specifically Tony let the world in on his being Iron Man, I can only tell you it happened after I stopped following Marvel in '86. Cei-U! I summon the misattribution! Yup. Iron Man was described as Tony Stark's bodyguard as an excuse for why he always showed around Stark. The anonymity the Iron Man suit has been used to the advantage of the wearers at times. I believe Jim Rhodes tried not to let on that he was a different person in the suit for a while. And after Armor Wars, I believe Tony Stark claimed that the wearer of the suit had been replaced and/or died even though it was still Stark.
|
|
|
Post by Jesse on Sept 24, 2017 14:36:12 GMT -5
Recently I read Flash Comics #28 and in the story "The Flash Goes to Hollywood" I noticed Jay scolding Joan for using his real name when they arrive in Hollywood. So I guess his identity was only a secret from some people some of the time? Give the amount of times Joan is seen along side both Jay and The Flash in public it wouldn't be too hard to figure out.
As for Ralph Dibny I've only read as far as The Flash #141 and I'm wondering if him actually revealing his secret identity happens off panel in between issues? If he did reveal it on panel I can't remember exactly but I do recall him walking down the street and some random onlooker declaring there goes Ralph Dibny The Elongated Man.
|
|
|
Post by Jesse on Oct 23, 2017 4:29:06 GMT -5
I think I managed to find the story where Tony Stark first reveals his identity as Iron Man to the world and it's as late as 2002. During a press conference Tony publicly suits up to save a dog from being run over by the getaway car of some bank robbers being chased by police in Iron Man #55. Has anyone read this run and is it worth checking out?
|
|
|
Post by Jesse on Nov 15, 2017 14:51:26 GMT -5
At some point the original Wally West's identity as the Flash is public knowledge and I think it was the same when he was as Kid Flash during the first volume of New Teen Titans. Is that something that was revealed during that run? I know that originally during the Carmine Infantino run he kept it a secret from everyone except Barry.
|
|
|
Post by Cei-U! on Nov 15, 2017 16:32:54 GMT -5
At some point the original Wally West's identity as the Flash is public knowledge and I think it was the same when he was as Kid Flash during the first volume of New Teen Titans. Is that something that was revealed during that run? I know that originally during the Carmine Infantino run he kept it a secret from everyone except Barry. Wally's double life as Kid Flash was not public knowledge up through the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Only his family, his Titan teammates, the Justice Leaguers, and his friend Frances Kane knew the truth. Cei-U! I summon the semi-secret identity!
|
|
|
Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 17, 2017 15:43:55 GMT -5
I think I managed to find the story where Tony Stark first reveals his identity as Iron Man to the world and it's as late as 2002. During a press conference Tony publicly suits up to save a dog from being run over by the getaway car of some bank robbers being chased by police in Iron Man #55. Has anyone read this run and is it worth checking out? I don't really remember it, to be honest. At that point it didn't seem all that relevant anymore, and most people just took for granted he was Stark's body guard, and didn't really care who it actually was. More recently, with the plethora of remotes/AI controlled armor, it's not even really a thing.. it feels like half the time the armor is empty. Rhodey definitely tried to make like he was the same guy for a while... I remember the other people discussing it in Avengers, then later them not trusting him for a while... especially Cap, since he know Tony was actually in the armor.
|
|
|
Post by Jesse on Nov 17, 2017 15:54:40 GMT -5
Wally's double life as Kid Flash was not public knowledge up through the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Only his family, his Titan teammates, the Justice Leaguers, and his friend Frances Kane knew the truth. Cei-U! I summon the semi-secret identity! So his solo Flash series is post Crisis and the first time his identity is public? Not only is it public his rich neighbors sue him for his Flash related disturbances causing them property damage and high insurance costs! Plus his mom who starts living with him and his girlfriend at one point brags about it. Not only did her son win the lottery, he is The Flash.
|
|