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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 4, 2017 23:25:00 GMT -5
DC's Hanna-Barbera books have been at least interesting and some (Flintstones) have been excellent. I look forward to the second wave. I've heard enough good stuff about the DC/Looney Toons mash-ups that I'll probably grab the trade when it comes out. Flintstones was a lovely surprise wasnt it, but I cant say the same for the Looney Tunes books. I thought they would be cool, but other than the Batman/Fudd fell completely flat. But... one mans trash...right? Batman/Fudd and Jonah Hex/Yosemite Sam are the two that I've heard the most good about.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Sept 5, 2017 7:43:28 GMT -5
So...No good X-Men books out there? Is Marvel indeed treating the property like the black sheep of the family due to movie licensing issues with Fox?
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Post by The Captain on Sept 5, 2017 10:55:57 GMT -5
So...No good X-Men books out there? Is Marvel indeed treating the property like the black sheep of the family due to movie licensing issues with Fox? More likely that no one here is reading any of the current X-books. Mainstream Marvel doesn't seem to be real popular among the regulars here outside of a few books here and there. At one point, 20 or so years ago, I was getting about 30 Marvel titles per month. By November, I'll be at 3, those being Doctor Strange, Moon Knight, and Captain America, as I am tired of Star Wars going nowhere fast and will be dropping it.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 5, 2017 10:59:15 GMT -5
I last read an X-Book some time in the early 80s.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Sept 5, 2017 11:31:34 GMT -5
So...No good X-Men books out there? Is Marvel indeed treating the property like the black sheep of the family due to movie licensing issues with Fox? X-Men Gold is pretty good... it's as close to the 'golden Age' of the the team as you get... it's Kitty as leader of an old school line up. X-Men Blue is the time-lost original five... if you're interested in that. I haven't been interested in Uncanny Avengers since the original storyline, so I can't help you there. Cable with James Robinson I tried an issue, didn't do anything for me. I haven't tried any of the others
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Post by Jesse on Sept 5, 2017 12:00:59 GMT -5
DC's Hanna-Barbera books have been at least interesting and some (Flintstones) have been excellent. I look forward to the second wave. I read the first issue of Flintstones and loved it. The artwork style took a bit of getting used to but the jokes were on point and that's what really sold it for me. I've also read Future Quest and loved seeing characters like Space Ghost and Birdman being used. Flintstones was a lovely surprise wasnt it, but I cant say the same for the Looney Tunes books. I thought they would be cool, but other than the Batman/Fudd fell completely flat. But... one mans trash...right? Yeah I was pretty underwhelmed by the Looney Tunes crossovers I read as well. The Wonder Woman one was decent though.
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Post by Spike-X on Sept 5, 2017 20:10:09 GMT -5
So...No good X-Men books out there? Is Marvel indeed treating the property like the black sheep of the family due to movie licensing issues with Fox? If you can call three or four titles a month being treated badly, then sure, I guess. I only read X-Men if a writer I really like is doing it (Whedon, Morrison, Bendis). I haven't been following the latest titles.
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Post by berkley on Sept 5, 2017 20:37:48 GMT -5
I last read an X-Book some time in the early 80s. I read the first part of the Whedon run a few years ago, more out of curiosity about how he'd do at writing a superhero comic than anything else. I found it OK for the first few issues but then it tailed off sharply so I gave it up. That was the first X-Men for me since around #150.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 5, 2017 22:09:38 GMT -5
I last read an X-Book some time in the early 80s. I read the first part of the Whedon run a few years ago, more out of curiosity about how he'd do at writing a superhero comic than anything else. I found it OK for the first few issues but then it tailed off sharply so I gave it up. That was the first X-Men for me since around #150. I guess I did read that mini-series that Steve Rude did the art on...or the art for some issues. That had the original X-Men and was like a year one thing. But that was because Steve Rude.
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Post by Dizzy D on Sept 6, 2017 6:55:04 GMT -5
So...No good X-Men books out there? Is Marvel indeed treating the property like the black sheep of the family due to movie licensing issues with Fox? X-Men Gold is pretty good... it's as close to the 'golden Age' of the the team as you get... it's Kitty as leader of an old school line up. X-Men Blue is the time-lost original five... if you're interested in that. I haven't been interested in Uncanny Avengers since the original storyline, so I can't help you there. Cable with James Robinson I tried an issue, didn't do anything for me. I haven't tried any of the others I gave Generation X 2 issues before dropping it, that one was very disappointing, especially as I liked all the characters and the idea, just not the execution. Wolverine (Laura) has been good (IMHO). Haven't read Old Man Logan, but Lemire is one of the better writers. Haven't tried Iceman (no interest in a solo-Iceman title), Jean (no interest in a solo-Jean title) or Weapon X (no interest in a Greg Land title).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2017 14:54:15 GMT -5
So...No good X-Men books out there? Is Marvel indeed treating the property like the black sheep of the family due to movie licensing issues with Fox? I would say "no" actually - I've tried Gen X, X-Men Blue, X-Men Gold and Astonishing, and I wouldn't rate any of them above mediocre; the solo titles (other than Old Man Logan, and to some extent X-23 as Wolverine) have been dire. For the first time in about 15 years, I'm not reading any X-titles.
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Post by bor on Sept 22, 2017 3:21:54 GMT -5
I have enjoyed Laura as the wolverine. Her clone sister was fun and they have an actual wolverine as a pet. Thor has been great for years under Aaron. Ms. marvel is good. I really enjoyed the Vision series that came out recently.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 7:42:11 GMT -5
Yes, that Vision series was tremendous. The problem with Marvel at the moment, is that most of the good books are either relatively minor series (Ultimates, Vision, Dr Strange, Spider Woman) or limited runs (Ultimates again, Vision) - the major books are almost without exception dire and have been for months.
Ms Marvel is a weird book - it's well done and I kinda liked it, but ultimately it just feels too "young" to me; I'm reading it and the characters don't strike a chord, I don't feel that I'm the target audience. Which is fine, I don't have a problem with that - it's a good sign that there are at least some book(s) which are managing to sell without pandering to the 50+ white fanboy market.
To be honest, I wish Marvel would do more of that - I can't remember the last time Marvel managed to launch a character which actually levelled up to become self-sustaining - in fact, I can only think of maybe 3 solo characters that have managed that since the 60s (Punisher, Wolverine and Deadpool); they've tried hard with Captain Marvel, but I don't think it's really hit (the character has been promoted, but the book hasn't been very good). Judging from what I've read about sales, it doesn't look like Ms Marvel is going to make that leap either, compelling character or not.
The "Legacy" relaunch can't come soon enough for me - not to get more "dead white males" back as the main characters, but I'm just hoping that there's an improvement over the whole line as part of the relaunch, and a shake-up in some of the creative teams. I fully expect to be sorely disappointed by the outcome
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Post by Nowhere Man on Sept 23, 2017 6:22:25 GMT -5
Yes, that Vision series was tremendous. The problem with Marvel at the moment, is that most of the good books are either relatively minor series (Ultimates, Vision, Dr Strange, Spider Woman) or limited runs (Ultimates again, Vision) - the major books are almost without exception dire and have been for months. Ms Marvel is a weird book - it's well done and I kinda liked it, but ultimately it just feels too "young" to me; I'm reading it and the characters don't strike a chord, I don't feel that I'm the target audience. Which is fine, I don't have a problem with that - it's a good sign that there are at least some book(s) which are managing to sell without pandering to the 50+ white fanboy market. To be honest, I wish Marvel would do more of that - I can't remember the last time Marvel managed to launch a character which actually levelled up to become self-sustaining - in fact, I can only think of maybe 3 solo characters that have managed that since the 60s (Punisher, Wolverine and Deadpool); they've tried hard with Captain Marvel, but I don't think it's really hit (the character has been promoted, but the book hasn't been very good). Judging from what I've read about sales, it doesn't look like Ms Marvel is going to make that leap either, compelling character or not. The "Legacy" relaunch can't come soon enough for me - not to get more "dead white males" back as the main characters, but I'm just hoping that there's an improvement over the whole line as part of the relaunch, and a shake-up in some of the creative teams. I fully expect to be sorely disappointed by the outcome Your first paragraph about which books at Marvel and DC are the most interesting nowadays is spot on. Batman, Avengers and Spider-Man have such ridiculous amounts of editorial oversight and corporate meddling nowadays (often if only in terms of mandated events and crossovers) it's virtually impossible for a creative team to get much steam going. People wonder why those old runs from the 60's, 70's and 80's still hold so much weight? Well, they were self-contained, reflected the creative teams vision with a small amount of editorial oversight. Hell, Kirby edited his own Fourth World stuff.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 23, 2017 10:25:42 GMT -5
Bug! the Adventures of Forager! Really. This book is so incredibly fun it's silly. And it is the absolute perfect tribute to Kirby in the year of his centennial.
I can't recommend it enough!
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