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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 25, 2017 22:15:42 GMT -5
This one irked me, as I hate reprints disguised as tie-ins to current stories; because the creative team can't meet a deadline. Marvel was really bad about this, around this timeframe. They pull this out again, sort of, with an old Torch enemy and inserts a Torch & Sub-mariner reprint later on. It also really interrupts the tension of the previous issue.
As for the reprint itself; it's okay; but, the Simon & Kirby stories were so much better. No idea about the Golden Age creators, though, as far as conventions. A lot of those guys left comics behind and didn't even hit to conventions until well after they were retired. I don't believe Martin Nodell showed up at any major ones, before being rediscovered, in the 80s, thanks to Who's Who. At least, I haven't read of any accounts of him at conventions, before the later 80s/early 90s.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Sept 26, 2017 11:38:19 GMT -5
I didn't mind the reprints in this series as much as the others, because getting to see the Golden Age material was such a novelty, and brought those old adventures into modern perspective.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Sept 26, 2017 16:31:26 GMT -5
Invaders #10The CoverJohn Romita cover here. And man, is it terrible. The reaper looks silly and nothing like the character seen on the inside (he looks much better on the interior artwork too). Definitely not one of Romita's best. GCD credits the cover to Ron Wilson and Frank Giacoia. The only part of the cover that looks Romitaish to me is Cap's head at the top left. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 26, 2017 16:38:36 GMT -5
Really? My search on the cover was wrong then. Plus it would explain why it was not very good.
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Post by sabongero on Sept 27, 2017 10:39:38 GMT -5
Does Cap get to take on Golden Age (World War 2) Nazi super villains or Japanese super villains in this series by any chance?
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Sept 27, 2017 14:48:59 GMT -5
I will let you know:) so far he has battled Master Man, U-Man and Baron Blood who are all of the Nazi super villain variety:)
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Post by tarkintino on Sept 27, 2017 18:45:38 GMT -5
Really? My search on the cover was wrong then. Plus it would explain why it was not very good. Yeah, because Romita Sr. was still one of the few masters of cover art at this point in the 1970s. Ron Wilson and Frank Giacoia's cover merely had the customary Romita touch ups, but even on a lazy day, Romita's cover composition is head and shoulders above that seen on Invaders #10. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 28, 2017 8:53:01 GMT -5
Does Cap get to take on Golden Age (World War 2) Nazi super villains or Japanese super villains in this series by any chance? Most of the villains were created for this series. Timely (and many other companies) didn't really have much in the way of super-villains. Apart from the Red Skull, there really isn't a major one. Asbestos Lady fought the Human Torch, in a few Golden Age stories and will appear down the road. That's pretty much it. Roy and Frank created Nazi versions of the JLA: Master Man, Warrior Woman, U-Man and Baron Blood. They will be the most recurring villains. We also later see analogues for the Freedom Fighters, as part of an unofficial crossover (the Crusaders) and versions of the Avengers. Roy doesn't bring the Japanese into things until later in the series, especially with the Kid Commandos, which also touches on the internment camps. We will see a character named Lady Lotus, towards the end; and, brrowing a page from Theodore Sturgeon, Roy introduces Agent Axis, a melding of a German, Italian, and Japanese agent into one person. In the Golden Age, DC had probably more recurring villains, with Fawcett's Captain Marvel a close second. Crimebuster had Ironjaw, who showed up quite alot, while MLJ's The Black Hood faced The Skull a few times. You don't find many others of note. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Oct 1, 2017 19:34:15 GMT -5
Invaders #11 The CoverAnother Kirby cover here. I am not a huge fan of this villain right of the bat. He looks like an oversized bullet from Super Mario. I am hoping this is a case where he looks better on the interior art than he does on the cover. The StoryWe start off with Jacqueline and Lord Falsworth getting to the hospital. Jacqueline needs a blood transfusion but none of the blood matches hers thanks to the effects of Baron Blood's bite. The Torch jumps to the rescue, saying his blood will work, which it does. There is a brief moment of concern when the generator in the building goes down but eventually it is repaired and the operation a success. However, as Jacqueline comes to, she seems eager to see Cap and not Torch, which seems to bother him greatly. Cap and Bucky then follow the doctor who storms in on some scientist working on this robot thing (the Blue Bullet). The doctor blames this scientist (Professor Gold) for the fact that the generator went down and almost caused Jacqueline's death. The scientist tells Cap and the doctor that their business was to construct a human rocket. The doctor says he will complain to the military and leaves. We then see someone receiving a phone call telling them to destroy the Invaders (it would appear to be Professor Gold's cronie, Norris, who tried to fight Cap when he and the doctor barged in). Suddenly, the Blue Bullet appears and takes out Namor. Then, Bucky causes it to smash through a wall where it sees Torch lying unconscious (he fainted after the strain of the blood transfusion). Jacqueline is awake and she leaps to save him....EXCEPT NOW SHE CAN FLY! She saves Torch and escapes from the Blue Bullet. Namor tackles him head on after regaining consciousness himself and takes the Bullet down. It is revealed that Professor Gold was inside and not his cronie. At the end, Jacqueline is excited about her newfound abilities and wants to join the Invaders. She runs to Cap and this upsets the Torch, who takes off, saying he is leaving the team. OpinionsI liked this story, even if the Blue Bullet looked a little silly. I felt they focused nicely on Torch and his trouble coping with his emotions for Jacqueline, who clearly is infatuated with Cap. As for Jacqueline getting powers, I am hoping she does don the Union Jack costume, since it was revealed that her father will never walk again. Quote of the Issue"Yes, damn you! And I would have succeeded if faced only with men...and not with freaks such as the accursed Sub-Mariner!"- Professor Gold's proclamation when he is unmasked in the Blue Bullet costume. To me, it read very much like a Scooby-Doo reveal, which made me laugh, Toro Missing?Toro appears at the beginning and just before the Blue Bullet bursts onto the scene...but once the Bullet appears, he is not seen at all. There is no explanation and I wonder if they just left him out of the entire ish. I can get that 5 team members crammed into a hospital might seem a bit much to contend with but come one...it seems like they blatantly forgot him.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 2, 2017 18:05:14 GMT -5
The Blue Bullet is sort of tied into the more modern Marvel Universe. One of the things Roy did is create homages to other characters, such as the Nazi Superman and Aquaman, with Master Man and U-Man, respectively. This is an homage to Iron Man, of a sort, as it is an armored weapon/suit. Next issue brings an interesting wrinkle to this story and will set up the next homage to a modern Marvel character.
Union Jack will make another costumed appearance.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Oct 2, 2017 18:22:27 GMT -5
Having perused the covers, I am aware Union Jack will be back...whether it is Jacqueline or a miraculous recovery from Lord Falsworth I will have to wait and see!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 2, 2017 18:34:54 GMT -5
Does Cap get to take on Golden Age (World War 2) Nazi super villains or Japanese super villains in this series by any chance? Most of the villains were created for this series. Timely (and many other companies) didn't really have much in the way of super-villains. Apart from the Red Skull, there really isn't a major one. Asbestos Lady fought the Human Torch, in a few Golden Age stories and will appear down the road. That's pretty much it. The lack of actual golden age Invaders villains always annoyed me a little - There WERE recurring Golden Age villains (Black Talon and the Python right off the top of my head) and plenty of cool one-offs. Hell, Captain America spent 90% of his time fighting gaudily costumed monsters (Joe Simon has described the GA Cap as more of a horror book than anything) and there were straight dozens of cool costumed baddies from Captain America Comics alone that could have been decent Invaders villains. (I am really partial to Turtle Man. If we ever get around to doing villain designs for the Classic Comics Christmas, he's on my list.)  |
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Post by tarkintino on Oct 2, 2017 19:10:00 GMT -5
Invaders #11The CoverAnother Kirby cover here. I am not a huge fan of this villain right of the bat. He looks like an oversized bullet from Super Mario. I am hoping this is a case where he looks better on the interior art than he does on the cover. The cover was slapped together. Very rough, and you're right--he looks like an oversized bullet. Perhaps he was inspired by the G.I. Joe action figure line's "Bulletman, the Human Bullet" figure, as seen in this comic page ad from 1976--  Seems like a partial inspiration. I do appreciate the building on the Human Torch feeling less than human. Obviously, this is some deep retconning based on the Vision's Spock-like quest for human identity, but it goes far in continuing to separate the Torch from any confusion with Johnny Storm. I'm surprised this story did not end mirroring the famous Vision crying panel, and it would have worked well. To be honest, of all of the core, original Invaders, Toro did not enjoy great development. Unlike Bucky, who not only had some stories focusing on him (along with the audience always in tragedy mode because they know his fate), Toro was--at times--just there. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 2, 2017 20:57:51 GMT -5
Actually, knowing Roy, he was inspired by the original Fawcett Bullet Man, Jim Barr:  He and Ibis were the most popular Fawcett characters, after the Marvel Family. |
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Post by sabongero on Oct 5, 2017 17:07:04 GMT -5
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