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Post by urrutiap on Oct 11, 2017 22:46:19 GMT -5
Back in the day I never had the luxury of reading New Mutants or even the first half of Excalibur.
The only issue I read and still have is issue 80. The only issue of the series I have and that's it.
So I'm asking anyone. The original first half issues of Excalibur any good or was the series kinda dull?
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 11, 2017 22:48:16 GMT -5
Apart from Alan Davis' art?
enh...........
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 11, 2017 22:49:21 GMT -5
Actually, I never got past the first issue. It did nothing for me; so I skipped the series. Davis' art is good, though.
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Post by batusi on Oct 11, 2017 23:06:21 GMT -5
Same here, mostly read some of the early issues because of the Alan Davis art but the series never interested me much. One of the first series to spin off from the main X title. At the time it annoyed me because Nightcrawler wasn't in UXM anymore.
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Post by Dizzy D on Oct 12, 2017 5:18:07 GMT -5
The Alan Davis run and the Warren Ellis runs are some of my favourite comics, but the first one is more a continuation of Captain Britain than any X-Men title.
The Claremont/Davis run was decent enough, but I was getting annoyed with Claremont's writing ticks at the time.
All fillers are terrible.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 12, 2017 6:19:26 GMT -5
I never thought any of the characters were interesting. I always found Nightcrawler and Cap. Britain to be boring.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 12, 2017 6:31:16 GMT -5
Some arcs were pretty decent and the art is lovely, but as Dizzy D points out Claremont’s writing ticks were very much in evidence. I can’t... won’t go there.
It’s a much lighter book that X-Men was at the same time, as far as the tone goes; several issues are outright comedy.
Despite being an O.K. book, Excalibur always felt to me like a parenthesis. I wanted the X-Men to finally put an end to the endless series of tragedies that followed the mutant massacre from X-Men #210 and get back together at the school; not sever ties with their supporting cast, pretend they were dead and founding a British branch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2017 7:41:56 GMT -5
I was never, ever a fan of this Comic Book done by Marvel. I find it not my liking and I had a hard time relating to it. It was done substandard and the art is below par and the writing is pretty much average.
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Post by Cei-U! on Oct 12, 2017 7:52:20 GMT -5
Actually, I never got past the first issue. It did nothing for me; so I skipped the series. Davis' art is good, though. Exactly my experience. Of course, I stopped buying comics completely right after Excalibur #1 came out, so I never really gave it a fair shot. Cei-U! Only bought it for Nightcrawler anyway! |
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Post by badwolf on Oct 12, 2017 9:36:47 GMT -5
I loved it at the time, lots of fun. The Claremont/Davis run is worth reading, and when Davis came back on the writing and art is also good.
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Post by String on Oct 13, 2017 10:24:51 GMT -5
At that time, I bought the first few issues but it didn't really click with me. Though I did like Davis' art and Captain Britain intrigued me since this was my first intro to the character. This was around the same time Marvel released the first trade edition of the Delano/Davis UK run which I bought and read.
Now though,having caught up with Davis' UK run with Moore and Delano, I've really enjoyed Excalibur after going back to it. A lighter tone than the X-books of the time, Claremont has described it somewhat as a 'cosmic comedy'. It's definitely a continuation of the Capt Britain storyline which is great to me. The development of Meggan's personality, her powers, and how Kurt's attention to her could be threatening to Brian. Kitty's friendship here with Rachel is strong and fun, almost on par with her friendship with Illyana. (My only nitpick with Claremont is this is where he started the plot line of revealing the true parentage of Rachel, a plot thread he never was able follow through on sadly).
The stories and scenarios were fun and quirky. Even their two-part tie-in with the Inferno event was good. The Cross-Time Caper story line which ran for several issues was all kinds of zany fun, especially the two-parter in #16-17 that let both Davis and Nightcrawler express their love of John Carter.
Davis pretty much had free reign with the cover designs which he developed into one-panel gags that made one wonder what was going on within that issue. Because of the series was being released in a higher price format, Marvel wanted to give readers an extra bang for their buck which is why we had all those great pin-ups by Davis on the back covers.
I'm working my way towards Davis' second run on the book. I've also heard great things about Ellis' time on the title which I plan to read as well. But this title has proven to be quite the fun surprise.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Oct 13, 2017 14:26:15 GMT -5
I hated the lineup. I thought Claremont's attempts at comedy fell flat, and I honestly wondered (having heard him say some very cutting things about Alan Moore) whether some of the plotlines were deliberate attempts to crap all over Moore's concepts.
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Post by tingramretro on Oct 13, 2017 17:24:54 GMT -5
I never thought any of the characters were interesting. I always found Cap. Britain to be boring. You're dead to me. |
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Post by tingramretro on Oct 13, 2017 17:29:12 GMT -5
I was never, ever a fan of this Comic Book done by Marvel. I find it not my liking and I had a hard time relating to it. It was done substandard and the art is below par and the writing is pretty much average. The art is certainly not "below par". Alan Davis was one of the best artists to come out of the eighties. Excalibur was, to me, a continuation of the Captain Britain series, and while Claremont is nowhere near as good a writer as any of the people who worked on that series, I still enjoyed the book for what it was, until they stupidly wrote CB out for awhile and it became just another boring X-Men book. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2017 17:47:28 GMT -5
I was never, ever a fan of this Comic Book done by Marvel. I find it not my liking and I had a hard time relating to it. It was done substandard and the art is below par and the writing is pretty much average. The art is certainly not "below par". Alan Davis was one of the best artists to come out of the eighties. Excalibur was, to me, a continuation of the Captain Britain series, and while Claremont is nowhere near as good a writer as any of the people who worked on that series, I still enjoyed the book for what it was, until they stupidly wrote CB out for awhile and it became just another boring X-Men book. I've did a little thinking here and the art is just about slightly above average; and having said that respectfully, I did not know who did the art and you said it was Alan Davis at the time that I read that book it was a very boring book with average art to boot. Remember, I was a much younger man back then and I did not care for this book at all and I lost all interest after reading the first 10-12 books and it's wasn't my cup of tea. At the time i did not know that this was a continuation of the Captain Britain series and that comment that you made totally caught me off guard and that's why I didn't know that. Back to Alan Davis, at the time that I saw this book - it was my first exposure of his work and now you've mention him in your post - I'm take back being "below par" and promote to better than average. This is best that I can do and I'm still don't care about this book anymore. |
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