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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 28, 2022 11:13:52 GMT -5
Not to get to far off the subject, but I have a feeling a very, very small percentage of "open relationships" are really consensual. It seems like one side is "allowed" more than the other, and in my personal opinion is a mentally unhealthy situation. Especially, in this case, if he really does love and care for his wife. Being a "celebrity" is not anything I would ever want. Because as tartanphantom mentions, acting, singing, etc is a paid job. Do your job and move on to the next. But unfortunately, especially since the dawn of the internet, nothing is ever left unexposed. And the vast majority of society is eating it up. So yeah media is going to keep feeding it to us if we keep consuming it. And I say all that not at all to get on my high horse or anything. Everyone has different opinions and interests. Mine personally just isn't knowing really anything about the people's movies, shows, music, books, comics I consume. As I really don't want to find out that these people's creations I enjoy are just as human and fallible as I am. We love gladiatorial combat in whatever form it's available.
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Post by impulse on Mar 28, 2022 11:15:36 GMT -5
I definitely agree that how society treats celebrities and the pressure therein contributed to Smith's break point. I won't so far as to say it caused it as they suggests he has no responsibility, but it almost certainly contributed. It would be decent of Rock to apologize, but he was just being Chris Rock. It would be a good gesture and an opportunity for Will Smith to start saving face.
As to the attention thing, not all of it is their fault. The way society obsesses and stalks celebrities has to get to them. Look at poor Britney Spears and what happened to her. I know I don't want any part of fame or fortune.
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Post by tartanphantom on Mar 28, 2022 11:26:49 GMT -5
Not to get to far off the subject, but I have a feeling a very, very small percentage of "open relationships" are really consensual. It seems like one side is "allowed" more than the other, and in my personal opinion is a mentally unhealthy situation. Especially, in this case, if he really does love and care for his wife. Being a "celebrity" is not anything I would ever want. Because as tartanphantom mentions, acting, singing, etc is a paid job. Do your job and move on to the next. But unfortunately, especially since the dawn of the internet, nothing is ever left unexposed. And the vast majority of society is eating it up. So yeah media is going to keep feeding it to us if we keep consuming it. And I say all that not at all to get on my high horse or anything. Everyone has different opinions and interests. Mine personally just isn't knowing really anything about the people's movies, shows, music, books, comics I consume. As I really don't want to find out that these people's creations I enjoy are just as human and fallible as I am. We love gladiatorial combat in whatever form it's available.
True. Life itself is a bloodsport to some degree, and crowds will usually gather to blood spilling of just about any type-- be it actual or metaphorical. Worse, they'll try to make money off of it.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 28, 2022 11:29:57 GMT -5
We love gladiatorial combat in whatever form it's available.
True. Life itself is a bloodsport to some degree.
I'm not on Facebook, Twitter, etc., and virtually everything I read about them or occasionally see is proof of what you've just written. As were last week's Judiciary Committee hearings, because politics has never ben anyhting but a bloodsport. Just more obvious today.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 11:33:55 GMT -5
Prince Hal , if you have any advice for dealing with being on social media (I should leave), I’m all ears, so to speak. It brings out the worst. I’ve seen celebrities and ‘journalists’ quote tweet or tag people to invite a bullying pile-on. I’ve seen the pitchfork mob have a go at someone even though the topic isn’t anything to do with them. I had a random piece of trash troll try to troll me because I had the audacity to criticise my council’s frequent missed garbage collections. I don’t need some random troll, who doesn’t even reside in the same city (if his bio was accurate) having a go at me because I politely criticised my city council. Utter losers.
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Post by tartanphantom on Mar 28, 2022 11:42:42 GMT -5
Prince Hal , if you have any advice for dealing with being on social media (I should leave), I’m all ears, so to speak. It brings out the worst. I’ve seen celebrities and ‘journalists’ quote tweet or tag people to invite a bullying pile-on. I’ve seen the pitchfork mob have a go at someone even though the topic isn’t anything to do with them. I had a random piece of trash troll try to troll me because I had the audacity to criticise my council’s frequent missed garbage collections. I don’t need some random troll, who doesn’t even reside in the same city (if his bio was accurate) having a go at me because I politely criticised my city council. Utter losers.
Like Prince Hal , I've never had a facebook, twitter or instagram account. I find it difficult to miss something that I never had to begin with. My only pseudo-social media platform profile exists on LinkedIn, and that is strictly professional and I've never used it as a soapbox, mainly because the internet is "forever". It's a pity that more people can't grasp that concept. I've seen excerpted twitter and facebook posts that were clearly unintentional "self-owns" because the poster didn't even begin to think of the long-term ramifications of their post. Why would an wise person ever put themselves in such a position?
Regarding politics, the comments section of internet news stories is as bad as any of the big three platforms. I used to often peruse the comments sections, but now they usually devolve into a scat-fight within three or four comment posts... I don't even bother anymore.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 28, 2022 11:56:26 GMT -5
Prince Hal , if you have any advice for dealing with being on social media (I should leave), I’m all ears, so to speak. It brings out the worst. I’ve seen celebrities and ‘journalists’ quote tweet or tag people to invite a bullying pile-on. I’ve seen the pitchfork mob have a go at someone even though the topic isn’t anything to do with them. I had a random piece of trash troll try to troll me because I had the audacity to criticise my council’s frequent missed garbage collections. I don’t need some random troll, who doesn’t even reside in the same city (if his bio was accurate) having a go at me because I politely criticised my city council. Utter losers. My advice is not to be on them. I guess for some folks, because of work obligations, they have to maintain a presence, but I would keep it as minimal as possible. Don't know if comments can be disabled, say on a Facebook business site, but that would be a way to go, too. And tartanphantom is right about Comments sections in general, whether on news sites or the sports section. They are simply a chance for @$$holes empowered by anonymity to vent their spleens in a cowardly way. And the overwhelming majority of those kinds of comments are made out of ignorance (willful or natural), or because they are compensated for being stirrers-up of shite. Battling those kinds of enemies is like the proverbial skunk-pissing contest, pig-wrestling bout, and/or bopping one of those bouncy clown toys taht just keep coming back for more, and live to drive you crazy.
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Post by shaxper on Mar 28, 2022 12:03:35 GMT -5
I use FB primarily as a place to store, share, and relive important moments on my newsfeed. Now that I've been doing it for my girls' entire lives, it's delightful having old memories pop up almost daily. I do hang out in a few fb groups, more as a lurker than a contributor, as it keeps me in the know faster than official websites, depending upon the interest. I suppose I could just find discussion forums like the CCF for each interest, but I am not committed enough to those interests to want to engage that thoroughly. FB is a great one-stop shop for simpler, shallower community sharing.
Generally, I'm able to avoid the rancor, but I've been under an especially large amount of stress over the past few days and found myself posting in a way that I normally never would yesterday. I really had to take a step back and question what I was doing. It really can bring out the worst in people (including yourself) if you're not careful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 12:09:41 GMT -5
Another thing, the ego of people who keep attempting to follow you.
I am on Instagram. Private, locked account. For family and close friends only. Now, I accept you’ll get generic business loan accounts and the like following you, but I’m irked by losers who keep trying to follow.
Today I blocked some fool. He has attempted to follow me THREE times. I really wish I could pick up a phone and say, “Morning, moron. Okay, when I didn’t accept your follow request three times, what made you think a fourth request would be different? Don’t you think I have a private account for a reason, you narcissistic, entitled fool? You may THINK you are entitled to follow who you want, but I am private so as to converse with friends and family. But since three refusals of your follow request obviously aren’t sinking in to your thick skull, here’s a block instead!”
Seriously, it pisses me off. Some other guy (selling things) tried to follow three times. You know, I’m not perfect, but if a person refused a follow request from me just ONCE, I’d get the message. Seems three refusals aren’t enough for narcissists.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 13:08:50 GMT -5
I definitely agree that how society treats celebrities and the pressure therein contributed to Smith's break point. I won't so far as to say it caused it as they suggests he has no responsibility, but it almost certainly contributed. It would be decent of Rock to apologize, but he was just being Chris Rock. It would be a good gesture and an opportunity for Will Smith to start saving face. As to the attention thing, not all of it is their fault. The way society obsesses and stalks celebrities has to get to them. Look at poor Britney Spears and what happened to her. I know I don't want any part of fame or fortune. usually we are in agreement on many things. .but you have this one backwards. Rock is a comedian, doing schtick at an awards show (and possible a line he didn't even write himself), and he remained professional. (he's a terrible actor. . which proves to me that this was "real", but he's an amazing live performer, and stayed professional and kept the show moving). Smith is who owes the apology to Rock. . .there is absolutely NO excuse for putting of hands on someone else. None. (in this environment of a comedian making jokes at an awards show).
and let's not even factor in that Smith was LAUGHING in reaction, until he noticed Jada scowling. It also doesn't factor in that Rock has taken shots at Jada Smith in the past. . . uncalled for, and Smith owes Rock the apology.
a PUBLIC one, like he did to the Academy and his fellow nominees.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2022 13:11:28 GMT -5
Prince Hal , if you have any advice for dealing with being on social media (I should leave), I’m all ears, so to speak. It brings out the worst. I’ve seen celebrities and ‘journalists’ quote tweet or tag people to invite a bullying pile-on. I’ve seen the pitchfork mob have a go at someone even though the topic isn’t anything to do with them. I had a random piece of trash troll try to troll me because I had the audacity to criticise my council’s frequent missed garbage collections. I don’t need some random troll, who doesn’t even reside in the same city (if his bio was accurate) having a go at me because I politely criticised my city council. Utter losers.
Like Prince Hal , I've never had a facebook, twitter or instagram account. I find it difficult to miss something that I never had to begin with. My only pseudo-social media platform profile exists on LinkedIn, and that is strictly professional and I've never used it as a soapbox, mainly because the internet is "forever". It's a pity that more people can't grasp that concept. I've seen excerpted twitter and facebook posts that were clearly unintentional "self-owns" because the poster didn't even begin to think of the long-term ramifications of their post. Why would an wise person ever put themselves in such a position?
Regarding politics, the comments section of internet news stories is as bad as any of the big three platforms. I used to often peruse the comments sections, but now they usually devolve into a scat-fight within three or four comment posts... I don't even bother anymore.
I only have a Facebook account because was pressured into it about 10 years ago to make planning for Dragon*con easier among my friends. I went for many years without. the only reason I have Twitter is due to ThemeParkReview. . because when traveling with them, the group updates are via Twitter & FB Messenger. Same reason I have Instagram,but I've never actually POSTED anything on it. . . I only have it so I can be tagged in photos posted.
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Post by impulse on Mar 28, 2022 13:51:54 GMT -5
I definitely agree that how society treats celebrities and the pressure therein contributed to Smith's break point. I won't so far as to say it caused it as they suggests he has no responsibility, but it almost certainly contributed. It would be decent of Rock to apologize, but he was just being Chris Rock. It would be a good gesture and an opportunity for Will Smith to start saving face. As to the attention thing, not all of it is their fault. The way society obsesses and stalks celebrities has to get to them. Look at poor Britney Spears and what happened to her. I know I don't want any part of fame or fortune. usually we are in agreement on many things. .but you have this one backwards. Rock is a comedian, doing schtick at an awards show (and possible a line he didn't even write himself), and he remained professional. (he's a terrible actor. . which proves to me that this was "real", but he's an amazing live performer, and stayed professional and kept the show moving). Smith is who owes the apology to Rock. . .there is absolutely NO excuse for putting of hands on someone else. None. (in this environment of a comedian making jokes at an awards show). and let's not even factor in that Smith was LAUGHING in reaction, until he noticed Jada scowling. It also doesn't factor in that Rock has taken shots at Jada Smith in the past. . . uncalled for, and Smith owes Rock the apology.
a PUBLIC one, like he did to the Academy and his fellow nominees.
Hey, it's okay if we disagree on something. I won't slap you for it, but I don't think we are disagreeing. I agree there was no excuse for Smith to assault Rock, certainly not for jokes told at an awards show. Rock was doing his job as a shocking, offensive comedian by making shocking, offensive jokes. I don't know exactly when hosting became quite this vicious type of roast-styling, but that's been pretty par for a while now. Rock wasn't particularly more or less offensive than anyone else that springs to mind. I mean that more as a gesture of goodwill and to put things behind them like it seems he wants to by not pressing charges, Rock could offer an apology in the vein of "Sorry if that one hit hard, didn't know it was such a spore spot and no hard feelings/nothing personal, just a gig man." Throw the man a life preserver and give him a chance to save himself. Only if Rock wants to. Now, I am also not going to try and read too much into what was going through anyone's mind. I've seen it suggested he was laughing in an attempt to try and laugh it off but it didn't work. Maybe, maybe not. I can't say what who was or wasn't thinking, but assaulting a comedian doing their job was not the way to handle it.
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Post by The Captain on Mar 28, 2022 18:10:03 GMT -5
As many of you know, I am utterly devoted to my daughters and will tout their accomplishments any chance I get. Last week was a HUGE week in our house, so I waited until everything was done to make a post.
Last Tuesday, my older daughter participated in a vocal competition through the Gifted & Talented Program at our HS. She and two of her best friends did a group number but didn't place in the competition (even though they sounded AMAZING), but on her solo piece, she finished 3rd overall (technically 4th, since two girls tied for 1st, but she still got the 3rd place award). Then, jumping the gun a little bit, she is all but guaranteed to be awarded her second letter for HS swimming this upcoming Wednesday, keeping her in line to letter all four years.
My younger daughter participated in the same vocal competition, in the middle school portion of it, on Wednesday. She didn't do a solo piece, but she and a few of her friends did a group number and placed 2nd overall; the reason she didn't do a solo piece was because she had one of the leads in our MS musical performance this past weekend, and she wanted to save her voice for the three shows. For someone as lacking in musical ability as I am, both of my girls blow me away with their skill (they both play multiple instruments as well, although they don't focus on that in lieu of concentrating on their vocal work).
Third nine weeks ended last Monday and for the who-knows-how-many-times in a row, both of our girls got straight A's. My older daughter has only ended a nine weeks with a B in any class once in 10 years, my younger one only twice in eight, and our older girl is currently 9th in her class out of 325 students with a 4.5+ GPA, due to taking multiple AP and Honors classes both last year and this.
The biggest news of the week came on Friday when we got a call from the middle school to inform us that our younger daughter had been named "Student of the Month" for April. The principal said she was nominated by one of her teachers and when they held the vote among all of the nominees, it "wasn't even close" in her favor according to him. This is the first time either of our girls won this award, and for her to finish her MS career getting it (they don't do one in May) is just an awesome way for her to wrap things up as she heads to the HS to join her sister next year.
#DadBrag #GirlDad4Life
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Post by tartanphantom on Mar 28, 2022 18:29:10 GMT -5
As many of you know, I am utterly devoted to my daughters and will tout their accomplishments any chance I get. Last week was a HUGE week in our house, so I waited until everything was done to make a post. Last Tuesday, my older daughter participated in a vocal competition through the Gifted & Talented Program at our HS. She and two of her best friends did a group number but didn't place in the competition (even though they sounded AMAZING), but on her solo piece, she finished 3rd overall (technically 4th, since two girls tied for 1st, but she still got the 3rd place award). Then, jumping the gun a little bit, she is all but guaranteed to be awarded her second letter for HS swimming this upcoming Wednesday, keeping her in line to letter all four years. My younger daughter participated in the same vocal competition, in the middle school portion of it, on Wednesday. She didn't do a solo piece, but she and a few of her friends did a group number and placed 2nd overall; the reason she didn't do a solo piece was because she had one of the leads in our MS musical performance this past weekend, and she wanted to save her voice for the three shows. For someone as lacking in musical ability as I am, both of my girls blow me away with their skill (they both play multiple instruments as well, although they don't focus on that in lieu of concentrating on their vocal work). Third nine weeks ended last Monday and for the who-knows-how-many-times in a row, both of our girls got straight A's. My older daughter has only ended a nine weeks with a B in any class once in 10 years, my younger one only twice in eight, and our older girl is currently 9th in her class out of 325 students with a 4.5+ GPA, due to taking multiple AP and Honors classes both last year and this. The biggest news of the week came on Friday when we got a call from the middle school to inform us that our younger daughter had been named "Student of the Month" for April. The principal said she was nominated by one of her teachers and when they held the vote among all of the nominees, it "wasn't even close" in her favor according to him. This is the first time either of our girls won this award, and for her to finish her MS career getting it (they don't do one in May) is just an awesome way for her to wrap things up as she heads to the HS to join her sister next year. #DadBrag #GirlDad4Life
"Go, Dad!" That's a lot of daughter accomplishments to be proud of-- you've every right to brag.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 28, 2022 19:55:59 GMT -5
I wonder if Reuters is still non-sensationalist and factual? Mostly, yes...but even with them there is a tiny amount of pointed editorialising, which results in a detectable left-wing slant. It's not blatant, but it is there, I believe. I mean, I'm left-leaning myself, but I expect absolute neutrality from sources like Reuters and (being a British licence fee payer) the BBC.
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