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Post by Prince Hal on Sept 13, 2014 14:40:31 GMT -5
Sanctimony in the News, Episode 5,00,000,001.
Adrian Peterson in an interview with Christian Broadcasting Network:
“(Through) all the adversity and the hard times I’ve been through, God has always been present. I’ve always prayed to Him and asked Him to give me the strength to endure and to help others and to better understand the situation, or whatever situation I deal with in my personal life. And He has always showed up!”
Where was he when you were whipping your four-year-old son?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 14:43:51 GMT -5
I use anchovies in roux, but that's about it. Never had a sardine. I find canned fish, other than tuna (which I was fed as a kid), pretty off-putting.
Fresh tuna is pretty legit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 14:44:17 GMT -5
The thing that bothers me most about western religions is the cognitive dissonance between a universal loving savior and the concept of a "Chosen People"-that this universal loving God chose one small distinct group to be "the ones" and everyone else is heathens, sinners, in need of conversion or simply them to our us. How is that universal? How is that loving? The fact that the poster child for western religions and his earthly family is most often depicted as a white European when he was born into a region and and ethnic group that was mostly dark-skinned Semetic people only heightens the us and them mentality of what is supposed to be a universal faith and adds to that cognitive dissonance.
This dichotomy is especially apparent if you look at the sacred texts of western religions and other world religions to see there is a foundational universality to them-since at their heart, most of the teachings/sacred texts (not practice, not religiosity, but teachings/writings) of the major world religions revolve around the same basic concept of being better to other people and overcoming desire/selfishness as the route to ascension into some kind of better next life. For me, they are mostly seeking the same ideal and expressing it in ways that are culturally relevant to the people of the regions where they developed. So there are some kernels of universality in there, but they are smothered in a sea of cultural differences, and those differences make most people cling to the "us and them" divisions instead of seeing the universality present, tainting the core teachings with something approaching either bitter irony or hypocrisy depending on your level of cynicism.
As for my personal take, as I said I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but really have become equal parts Deist and pantheist. I believe something more than a cosmic accident is responsible for the universe, all parts of it, good bad or indifferent, that this thing/things/force/creative demi-urge/whatever permeated everything in the universe and is a part and parcel of everything that was created, but it takes no more active hand in guiding the lives of people than it does guiding the lives of squirrels, sunflowers, or comets, so does not need worship or even acknowledgement, and one day the whole "watch shop" will be closed up when it runs its course. Something akin to the Nature's God of Jefferson and other 18th century Deists, but tinged with a more anthropological approach to the wider world cultures and religions-kind of Deism through a prism of Joseph Campbell, Thomas Merton, and Native American shamanism, Japanese Shintoism or just plain animism, with a healthy does of classical Hermeticism thrown in for good measure.
As for ghosts/UFOs/paranormal or supernatural phenomenon, etc.-life/reality is bigger than our ability to perceive it and it is the ultimate hubris to think we are the pinnacle of creation and that everything within the universe/creation hews to our ability to perceive and/or understand it. Since the earliest recorded human civilizations that we have any evidence of (written, pictorial, archaeological artifacts, etc.) there seems to be an indication of some figure within those cultures (shaman, priest, holy man, sorcerers, madman whatever you want to call him) who sits at the crossroads of the known and perceivable world and the unknown mostly unperceivable world, (from the earliest humans making cave paintings to current people claiming to be mediums or discussing string theory, quantum mechanics and potential multiverses), navigating for the culture a path through the world and being a figure of wonder capable of great boons or great evils. And for as long as there have been believers, there seem to have been skeptics too. Just seems to be the nature of the beast, just as there has always been some folks willing to use/manipulate either the belief or skepticism of the masses to increase their own personal status, power, or wealth. The more things change, the more of the same we get, the patterns are mostly universal even as the trappings and language used to express them evolve. There's more possible than we are willing to conceive because each new thing diminishes our own standing in the scheme of things and our own uniqueness. In other words, we are blinded by our own hubris and need for a central role in the scheme of things.
-M
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Post by the4thpip on Sept 13, 2014 15:02:18 GMT -5
Canned sardines can be pretty good, or they can put you off fish for years. I bought some in spicy tomato sauce at a Portuguese special food store yesterday, those are awesome.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 13, 2014 16:19:34 GMT -5
It speaks volumes about the integrity of the CCF that we can speak openly about sensitive issues like this.
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Post by the4thpip on Sept 13, 2014 16:33:39 GMT -5
Yeah, everybody who's seen "Noises Off" knows that sardines are a sensitive subject.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 16:36:19 GMT -5
I'm fond of tuna & salmon, especially the non-canned version of the latter. (Canned tuna is perfectly OK, but of course fresh is much better.) Till about 6 or 7 years ago, when I tried the real thing during a trip down to the Florida Panhandle, I'd had only salmon croquettes using canned, & I didn't care for them at all.
Catfish, of course, I love. I'd have to give up my Southern citizenship if I didn't. No one around here serves it with the proper (i.e. what I'm used to from SW Arkansas/NW Louisiana) sides -- pickled green tomatoes & raw onion slices -- but we all have our crosses, Stars of David, pentagrams, Elder Signs or whatever to bear.
Anchovies are salt-ridden little pieces of foulness. Willingly & knowingly eating them is tantamount to a cry for help &/or code for "I have no sense of taste."
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 13, 2014 16:57:48 GMT -5
My 11 year old (I should really learn their names) has been intent on reading and asking me question on Knightsfall/end/quest today. He especially liked Croc getting used to lure Batman to him with Robin by Bane.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 13, 2014 17:00:24 GMT -5
I'm fond of tuna & salmon, especially the non-canned version of the latter. (Canned tuna is perfectly OK, but of course fresh is much better.) Till about 6 or 7 years ago, when I tried the real thing during a trip down to the Florida Panhandle, I'd had only salmon croquettes using canned, & I didn't care for them at all. Catfish, of course, I love. I'd have to give up my Southern citizenship if I didn't. No one around here serves it with the proper (i.e. what I'm used to from SW Arkansas/NW Louisiana) sides -- pickled green tomatoes & raw onion slices -- but we all have our crosses, Stars of David, pentagrams, Elder Signs or whatever to bear. Anchovies are salt-ridden little pieces of foulness. Willingly & knowingly eating them is tantamount to a cry for help &/or code for "I have no sense of taste." Dan you are an awesome member of the board and that's why I can't dismiss you as a human being for hating anchovies. The best pizza is thin crust with anchovies, black olives and provolone cheese.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 13, 2014 17:14:07 GMT -5
I'm fond of tuna & salmon, especially the non-canned version of the latter. (Canned tuna is perfectly OK, but of course fresh is much better.) Till about 6 or 7 years ago, when I tried the real thing during a trip down to the Florida Panhandle, I'd had only salmon croquettes using canned, & I didn't care for them at all. Catfish, of course, I love. I'd have to give up my Southern citizenship if I didn't. No one around here serves it with the proper (i.e. what I'm used to from SW Arkansas/NW Louisiana) sides -- pickled green tomatoes & raw onion slices -- but we all have our crosses, Stars of David, pentagrams, Elder Signs or whatever to bear. Anchovies are salt-ridden little pieces of foulness. Willingly & knowingly eating them is tantamount to a cry for help &/or code for "I have no sense of taste." Dan you are an awesome member of the board and that's why I can't dismiss you as a human being for hating anchovies. The best pizza is thin crust with anchovies, black olives and provolone cheese. It's funny, I've lived in NYC all my life and know people that make a big deal about Pizza. I think pizza is pizza. They all taste the same to me. We have Rays pizza, Original Rays pizza etc. Ho hum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 17:20:24 GMT -5
[Dan you are an awesome member of the board and that's why I can't dismiss you as a human being for hating anchovies. The best pizza is thin crust with anchovies, black olives and provolone cheese. What a tragic defilement of thin crust, black olives (which I love; my digestive system can't handle green, anyway) & provolone. I will pray for you, adam. Oops ... no. No, that's not an option for me. I'll ask i cctrombone, Richard Bishop & D.E. Sinclair to pray for you.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 17:23:54 GMT -5
The power of Christ did not compel my headache to go away at 2 A.M. Perhaps a change of deities is in order?
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Sept 13, 2014 17:39:27 GMT -5
[Dan you are an awesome member of the board and that's why I can't dismiss you as a human being for hating anchovies. The best pizza is thin crust with anchovies, black olives and provolone cheese. What a tragic defilement of thin crust, black olives (which I love; my digestive system can't handle green, anyway) & provolone. I will pray for you, adam. Oops ... no. No, that's not an option for me. I'll ask i cctrombone, Richard Bishop & D.E. Sinclair to pray for you. No god can save me from the sin of anchovies.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Sept 13, 2014 17:41:15 GMT -5
Provolone cheese on Pizza? NYC is giving this a big Bronx Cheer. Thats not a good thing
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 17:41:18 GMT -5
At least you admit that they constitute a sin, adam.
Baby steps.
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