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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 21, 2017 19:47:40 GMT -5
That's why you're the historian around here, Kurt! But Bob must have given them back, since Hector was wearing them and playing White Tiger again in Daredevil vol. 2 #38, when he was arrested by the police -which led to his being eventually shot dead while trying to escape at the end of his trial. I'll take your word for it. That happened after the resurrection of Jean Grey ended my interest in the Marvel Universe. Cei-U! Poor Hector never could catch a break! I agree... His death was a waste of a good character, and turning his cousin (an FBI agent and great supporting character) into the next White Tiger was also a waste, as was her naturally unavoidable death and resurrection. Marvel never learns.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Oct 22, 2017 11:29:56 GMT -5
Tempest from the Doom Patrol continued with the team as a medic (purportedly, although in reality he was treated as the Chief's personal assistant) even after not only leaving aside his costume but refusing to use his powers in almost any situation.
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Post by Dizzy D on Oct 22, 2017 14:25:35 GMT -5
Didn't the original volume of Spider-Woman end with her quitting? She's back now, but (and I could be totally wrong here) it seems like she was out of the game for a good two decades. To update my previous response, yeah, kind of (I think.) She was killed at the end of her series, but revived a year later in an Avengers story meant to resolve the somewhat dodgy end of her final issue (not really Ann Nocenti's fault; I always got the impression she was rushed into concluding SW's story with the sudden cancellation of her series.) But even though Jessica was revealed to have lived, she was without her powers...I think? (Don't have those issues any more.) Anyway, yes, she did disappear for a long time. I remember her making a return appearance in Alias -- with her powers -- many years later. But I'm not sure if she appeared at all in between those two points. She appeared several times in Wolverine in the years between, she still had some of her powers (could stick to walls for instance), but she was not as powerful as before. She ran a detective agency with Lindsey McCabe during that time.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 22, 2017 15:37:04 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that no one from the big two will ever stayed retired as long as the creative teams continue to change hands. It might happen in an Independent book. I mean , heck, they couldn't even keep Barry Allen and Bucky in the grave.
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Post by shawnhopkins on Oct 23, 2017 8:15:09 GMT -5
Shamrock retired. Last seen running a bar.
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Post by badwolf on Oct 23, 2017 8:48:13 GMT -5
Shamrock retired. Last seen running a bar. How cliche!
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Oct 23, 2017 21:06:21 GMT -5
Batgirl quit. Granted, she continued on as Oracle but one could argue that without the events of Killing Joke, Barbara Gordon could have remained a retired superhero.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 23, 2017 21:19:40 GMT -5
In the Ultimate Universe Bucky was, like, 80 when Captain America returned from wherever Captain America went after World War 2 in the Ultimate Universe.
I don't think he was a superhero by night at that point.
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 24, 2017 6:07:43 GMT -5
So, basically, with the exception of a very few, the only reason a superhero would quit or retire was because their book was ending and no one wanted to take it up? Once a hero, always a hero?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 24, 2017 6:16:37 GMT -5
So, basically, with the exception of a very few, the only reason a superhero would quit or retire was because their book was ending and no one wanted to take it up? Once a hero, always a hero? In hindsight yes, but there is another factor: writers or editors who won’t stand for cetain heroes to be retired and will bring them back into the fold, even if it makes little sense. Cyclops well and truly retired after X-Men #175, and that was supposed to stick. It was writer’s Chris Claremont’s gift to the character, who he felt had had a pretty crappy life. Cyke got married and got a job as an airplane pilot in Alaska. For a few hears he’d sometimes pop up in the X-Men book but his regular hero days were done. But then Marvel got the idea of X-Factor, and he was un-retired, uncharacteristically dumping his wife and kid to go play the hero in tights again. Ugh.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Oct 24, 2017 6:35:36 GMT -5
Didn't Wally quit the Titans as Kid Flash and go back to college because he was getting tired of the superhero life?
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Post by Outrajs on Oct 24, 2017 20:32:27 GMT -5
So, basically, with the exception of a very few, the only reason a superhero would quit or retire was because their book was ending and no one wanted to take it up? Once a hero, always a hero? In hindsight yes, but there is another factor: writers or editors who won’t stand for cetain heroes to be retired and will bring them back into the fold, even if it makes little sense. Cyclops well and truly retired after X-Men #175, and that was supposed to stick. It was writer’s Chris Claremont’s gift to the character, who he felt had had a pretty crappy life. Cyke got married and got a job as an airplane pilot in Alaska. For a few hears he’d sometimes pop up in the X-Men book but his regular hero days were done. But then Marvel got the idea of X-Factor, and he was un-retired, uncharacteristically dumping his wife and kid to go play the hero in tights again. Ugh. That, right there, is a reason Cyclops is no longer a hero. If you can't be a hero to your own family, how can you truly be a hero to anyone else? That is the saddest return I have ever heard!
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Post by mikelmidnight on Oct 25, 2017 13:22:26 GMT -5
Claremont said that he'd actually intended Xavier to quit and live happily ever after with Lilandra, but TPTB demanded his return.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 25, 2017 17:25:46 GMT -5
In hindsight yes, but there is another factor: writers or editors who won’t stand for cetain heroes to be retired and will bring them back into the fold, even if it makes little sense. Cyclops well and truly retired after X-Men #175, and that was supposed to stick. It was writer’s Chris Claremont’s gift to the character, who he felt had had a pretty crappy life. Cyke got married and got a job as an airplane pilot in Alaska. For a few hears he’d sometimes pop up in the X-Men book but his regular hero days were done. But then Marvel got the idea of X-Factor, and he was un-retired, uncharacteristically dumping his wife and kid to go play the hero in tights again. Ugh. That, right there, is a reason Cyclops is no longer a hero. If you can't be a hero to your own family, how can you truly be a hero to anyone else? That is the saddest return I have ever heard! Oh, they eventually tried to undo that grotesque decision by showing his wife was actually a Mr. Sinister construct (a demon-possessed one too, eventually), that Cyke was mentally manipulated by the evil Cameron Hodge, that he actually stayed oin New York for a very short time before going home again and blah blah blah. Typical awkward retcon of an undefensible, editorially mandated plot twist. Cyclops, the ultimate boy scout with starched underwear, would never have abandoned his wife and kid. That was character assassination, and I don’t hold it against him any more than I blame Peter Parker for striking his pregnant wife when Marvel tried to replace him with Ben Reilly. Such unforgiveable behaviour is not representative of who these characters are, and is attributable only to lousy decisions by misguided writers and editors. If it is explained that the recent soft reboot of the Marvel Universe got rid of that type of event, I won’t mind!
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Post by Bronze age andy on Oct 25, 2017 20:26:58 GMT -5
Amphibian from Squadron Supreme quit.
As far I know he was never seen again. Could be wrong.
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