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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 20, 2017 8:20:01 GMT -5
As a counterpoint to the other thread about books that you liked that others didn't, I ask the question- What runs that were highly regarded or famous did you find let you down? I'll start if off with the Secret Empire saga that ran from Captain America 169-175. I read this last year in the MU subscription and it did nothing for me. Maybe It was amazing during the end of the Nixon scandal, but I found it meh.  |
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Post by hondobrode on Oct 20, 2017 9:16:56 GMT -5
 This, hugely I was SO hyped for this Byrne loves the Doom Patrol and this was a dream project in my mind I've never been so disappointed. It was about every kind of wrong you can imagine and the scripting was as painful as a Continuity Comic. Only later out of the quarter bins did I purchase them out of morbid curiosity, strictly for continuity Apparently, I've heard this run was disregarded later as being a cartoon on tv ? |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Oct 20, 2017 10:12:09 GMT -5
I think just about every New Warriors reboot since the original series qualifies.. the 2nd series was medicore at best, then there was the abomination of the reality show series, then there's the whole Stanford thing. Never mind the one with fake Night Thrasher and vampire Jubilee.
Really, in the continuity in my head... those character go from the end of Busiek's Avengers to Avengers: The Initiative (which, IMO, was always meant to be the New Warriors with better marketing).
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Post by badwolf on Oct 20, 2017 10:27:08 GMT -5
Apparently, I've heard this run was disregarded later as being a cartoon on tv ? Awww. With reality being rebooted every few years you'd think they could have just let it go at that. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 20, 2017 10:41:23 GMT -5
I've never been so disappointed. It was about every kind of wrong you can imagine and the scripting was as painful as a Continuity Comic.
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Post by String on Oct 20, 2017 12:09:28 GMT -5
Starman by James Robinson
I read the first Omnibus volume of the series after hearing so much praise for it. It was good, it was decent, but I just didn't see what all the hype was about. It also didn't click with me enough to want to finish it either.
It remains one of the few titles that I consider over-hyped.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Oct 20, 2017 12:15:25 GMT -5
Watchmen. I never connected to most of the characters, thought Dr Manhattan deadly dull, and the squid nonsensical.
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Post by Dizzy D on Oct 20, 2017 12:35:53 GMT -5
Grant Morrison's WildC.A.T.s. and Authority. Both series had brilliant runs before (Joe Casey/Dustin Nguyen and Warren Ellis/Brian Hitch). We had a clean slate, a complete reboot. Morrison was going strong off several projects. Even popular artist like Jim Lee and Gene Ha. And then we got for both series a single issue (ok, 2 issues for Authority, months later). One was incoherent (WildC.A.T.s), the other plain boring (Authority). And then Morrison went off to sulk.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Oct 20, 2017 14:12:56 GMT -5
Rock of ages, the only Grant Morrison JLA story I read. Derivative of so many other comic-book classic stories, and full of nonsensical plot points. Why, oh why would supermegabeings at the end of time require Green Arrow's help to stop some ill-defined pan-multiversal menace? They're out of boxing glove arrows?
Arkham Asylum, which I really wanted to love. And it has great, great artwork by Dave McKean! But the script had one good moment, plus an awful lot of nonsensical auto-mutilation, name-dropping, and references that are in no way as obscure as the writer thinks. An exercise in pedantry disguised as psychological drama.
The first Master of Kung Fu feature in Marvel Comics Presents, by Doug Moench and Tom Grindberg (I don't know if there were more later on). I was very happy to hear that Moench would come back to a character he had truly defined, and that had allowed him to write some of the very best comics of the '70s and '80s. But that storyline... urgh. All of a sudden, Shang Chi is back to his "Boy out of Honan for the first time" persona; one who has no idea who Bruce Lee is. Then we have cheap melodrama as a major supporting character is physically maimed for good. Then we must deal with a nonsensical plot in which a criminal organization sells guns to itself again and again, making profit after each sale (UH???). Then we have the ridiculously simplistic concept of a grand alliance of all terrorist factions in the world (yeah, like Al Qaida and Hezbollah could work together with Irgun, Neo-Nazis and the Red Army Faction). Plus the story ends with Shang Chi contracting a fatal disease that will kill him within a few months. Talk about a lousy return on investment! I'd rather have had the man stay retired as a fisherman in China.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 15:46:13 GMT -5
This one:  I am a big Mark Waid fan. Loved his earlier Flash run. So when he came back I was so hyped & this arc was...just meh. |
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Post by berkley on Oct 20, 2017 15:49:24 GMT -5
Rock of ages, the only Grant Morrison JLA story I read. Derivative of so many other comic-book classic stories, and full of nonsensical plot points. Why, oh why would supermegabeings at the end of time require Green Arrow's help to stop some ill-defined pan-multiversal menace? They're out of boxing glove arrows? Arkham Asylum, which I really wanted to love. And it has great, great artwork by Dave McKean! But the script had one good moment, plus an awful lot of nonsensical auto-mutilation, name-dropping, and references that are in no way as obscure as the writer thinks. An exercise in pedantry disguised as psychological drama. The first Master of Kung Fu feature in Marvel Comics Presents, by Doug Moench and Tom Grindberg (I don't know if there were more later on). I was very happy to hear that Moench would come back to a character he had truly defined, and that had allowed him to write some of the very best comics of the '70s and '80s. But that storyline... urgh. All of a sudden, Shang Chi is back to his "Boy out of Honan for the first time" persona; one who has no idea who Bruce Lee is. Then we have cheap melodrama as a major supporting character is physically maimed for good. Then we must deal with a nonsensical plot in which a criminal organization sells guns to itself again and again, making profit after each sale (UH???). Then we have the ridiculously simplistic concept of a grand alliance of all terrorist factions in the world (yeah, like Al Qaida and Hezbollah could work together with Irgun, Neo-Nazis and the Red Army Faction). Plus the story ends with Shang Chi contracting a fatal disease that will kill him within a few months. Talk about a lousy return on investment! I'd rather have had the man stay retired as a fisherman in China. Whew! Glad I read this before looking for that MoKF revival in Marvel Presents! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 15:51:34 GMT -5
And recently this one:  |
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Post by batusi on Oct 20, 2017 16:50:49 GMT -5
These let me down...  X-MEN HIDDEN YEARS #1-22 SPIDER-MAN CHAPTER ONE #1-12 WONDER WOMAN #101-136 NEW TEEN TITANS (1984) #12-49 FANTASTIC FOUR #355-414 X-FORCE (1991) SECRET WARS V1 #1-12 SECRET WARS V2 #1-9 |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 20, 2017 17:20:28 GMT -5
I Loved that FF run ( 355-414) and revisit it often. I also enjoyed the first Secret Wars.
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Post by hondobrode on Oct 20, 2017 17:31:35 GMT -5
And recently this one: Has been widely reviled. It looks horrible. I've learned to wait out some things. Back in the days of the newsstand, you bought it, if you could, cause you might not get another shot at it ! and it might shoot up to where you can't afford it ! |
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