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Post by berkley on Oct 28, 2017 23:37:20 GMT -5
Starlin quit Marvel while he and Alan Weiss were working on Warlock #16. Here is a page from the pencils.  That's interesting - do we know what the story was going to be about? Was it the same as the one eventually printed in the Marvel Two-in-One and Avengers Annuals? Or something that came before or after that? |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 28, 2017 23:41:10 GMT -5
I got the impression that it was a filler type issue unrelated to the ongoing story from the previous issues. Alan Weiss did the artwork interrupting Starlins run of doing all the writer /artist work for the series.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Oct 29, 2017 7:43:00 GMT -5
Alan Weiss's Wikipedia page says he gave an interview in Back Issue #46 where he spoke about the "lost" Warlock story. He said it would have been reminiscent of the Jonathan Swift novel Gulliver's Travels. Portions of it were printed in the second volume of Marvel Masterworks: Warlock. The remainder of the artwork was lost in a New York City taxicab in 1976. GCD says the Masterworks included 16 pages written by Starlin and pencilled and lettered by Weiss and gives a synopsis: Adam Warlock rescues mineworking elves from slavery.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 29, 2017 16:28:27 GMT -5
Alan Weiss's Wikipedia page says he gave an interview in Back Issue #46 where he spoke about the "lost" Warlock story. He said it would have been reminiscent of the Jonathan Swift novel Gulliver's Travels. Portions of it were printed in the second volume of Marvel Masterworks: Warlock. The remainder of the artwork was lost in a New York City taxicab in 1976. GCD says the Masterworks included 16 pages written by Starlin and pencilled and lettered by Weiss and gives a synopsis: Adam Warlock rescues mineworking elves from slavery. I have that Masterwork book. I didn't read the rough pages, I'm a snob that way. I have always liked Weiss' work, though. |
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Post by chaykinstevens on Oct 30, 2017 18:27:21 GMT -5
Chris Claremont and Michael Golden were supposed to have done an annual for Action Comics in 1990. Perhaps Golden is still working on it and we just need to be patient. Patience is a virue.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Oct 31, 2017 11:40:28 GMT -5
Chris Claremont and John Byrne planed an issue of What If in which Magneto formed the X-men and took over the world, basically. Byrne did some costume designs but it got no farther than that.
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Post by james on Nov 5, 2017 19:52:11 GMT -5
The Originally planned Avengers vs JLA. The 90's story was good but i had seen some original art work from the original and i think it Perez's art was just better back then.
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Post by Rob Allen on Nov 10, 2017 18:57:37 GMT -5
My wife found this book recently:  Over the years, Disney studios started lots of projects that were shelved for one reason or another. This book collects art from many of them. |
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Post by berkley on Nov 11, 2017 1:17:59 GMT -5
The Originally planned Avengers vs JLA. The 90's story was good but i had seen some original art work from the original and i think it Perez's art was just better back then. For me it was at its best a little earlier, in the 70s. In the 80s I found he started making his figures, both male and female, too thin and angular for my taste. |
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Post by james on Nov 11, 2017 14:05:31 GMT -5
The Originally planned Avengers vs JLA. The 90's story was good but i had seen some original art work from the original and i think it Perez's art was just better back then. For me it was at its best a little earlier, in the 70s. In the 80s I found he started making his figures, both male and female, too thin and angular for my taste. YES! I hated his Scarlet Witch for that very reason. Always thought he was going for an anorexic look and i never understodd the drastic change. I think inking choice wasn't suitable for him either. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 11, 2017 22:16:21 GMT -5
My wife found this book recently: Over the years, Disney studios started lots of projects that were shelved for one reason or another. This book collects art from many of them. That sounds amazing! I'll have to look for it. |
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Post by berkley on Nov 11, 2017 22:22:29 GMT -5
For me it was at its best a little earlier, in the 70s. In the 80s I found he started making his figures, both male and female, too thin and angular for my taste. YES! I hated his Scarlet Witch for that very reason. Always thought he was going for an anorexic look and i never understodd the drastic change. I think inking choice wasn't suitable for him either. Yeah - it's one of the reasons I've never read his Wonder Woman series: if only he had done it in the 70s, or with his 70s style, I would have been more interested. I might still read it some day, though. |
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Post by james on Nov 12, 2017 7:09:50 GMT -5
YES! I hated his Scarlet Witch for that very reason. Always thought he was going for an anorexic look and i never understodd the drastic change. I think inking choice wasn't suitable for him either. Yeah - it's one of the reasons I've never read his Wonder Woman series: if only he had done it in the 70s, or with his 70s style, I would have been more interested. I might still read it some day, though. It was pretty good. Definitely better than Byrne's run. |
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Post by shawnhopkins on Nov 13, 2017 12:05:46 GMT -5
I guess it was more an explosion in the air than a complete failure to launch, but only two of the planned 12 issues of BIg Numbers came out. Dream team of Alan Moore and Bill Sienkiewicz. Supposed to be a 500 page magnum opus.  |
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Post by badwolf on Nov 13, 2017 12:10:44 GMT -5
Likewise Steve Gerber and Val Mayerik's Void Indigo, which lasted one Marvel Graphic Novel and two issues under the Epic imprint before being deemed too violent and explicit.
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