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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 1:41:03 GMT -5
I don't think Steranko's proposed sword & sorcery series Talon has been mentioned yet:  I imagine there are more than a few other Steranko projects that never got off the ground, but this is the one that springs to mind right now. There was a full color poster of that piece up for auction at Lonestar last week or the week before. It went for far more than I was willing to bid on it, but I don't think any other art for it was ever produced. -M |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 4, 2017 4:45:28 GMT -5
Another Steranko project proposal from the 1970s I read about was called O'Ryann's Odyssey.  |
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Post by mikelmidnight on Dec 4, 2017 12:52:01 GMT -5
THE SOCIETY. James Robinson's and Matt Wagner's account of the early days of the Justice Society of America.
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Post by berkley on Dec 4, 2017 19:55:42 GMT -5
I don't think Steranko's proposed sword & sorcery series Talon has been mentioned yet: I imagine there are more than a few other Steranko projects that never got off the ground, but this is the one that springs to mind right now. There was a full color poster of that piece up for auction at Lonestar last week or the week before. It went for far more than I was willing to bid on it, but I don't think any other art for it was ever produced. -M If you click on the link above it brings you to a page with a few more Talon illustrations - plus a few that look to me like they might be just sword and sorcery in general, but some of them are definitely Talon. |
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Post by berkley on Dec 4, 2017 19:56:28 GMT -5
Another Steranko project proposal from the 1970s I read about was called O'Ryann's Odyssey. Wow, that looks really good. Don't think I ever heard of this before. |
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Post by Confessor on Dec 8, 2017 6:54:58 GMT -5
Crimson Empire III, the third and final part in the Crimson Empire trilogy, was supposed to be about how Kir Kanos, last of Emperor Palpatine's Royal Guards, was going to seek out Luke Skywalker to exact revenge for the emperor's death. It was supposed to be published in 2001, but for some reason, it was cancelled. Crimson Empire III eventually was published in 2011/2012, but the entire plot had been overhauled. No longer was it about Kanos confronting Luke. Now it was about some fanatical remnant of the Empire emerging to strike back at its enemies — a story which had been told a hundred times over in the Star Wars Expanded Universe by that point. It was passe, and a disappointing conclusion to Kanos' story. As a big fan of Star Wars and Dark Horse's run of Star Wars comics, I never quite understood the fan love surrounding the various Crimson Empire series. It was definitely an interesting move to tell the story of an ex-Emporer's Royal Guard, but I found all three series to be a little bland. They're fine and enjoyable enough while you're reading them, but they're pretty forgettable. I've read Crimson Empire and CE II two or three times, and CE III once, but I couldn't begin to tell you what the plot of any of them are. These are some really forgettable SW comics IMO. |
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Post by Duragizer on Dec 8, 2017 19:13:25 GMT -5
Crimson Empire III, the third and final part in the Crimson Empire trilogy, was supposed to be about how Kir Kanos, last of Emperor Palpatine's Royal Guards, was going to seek out Luke Skywalker to exact revenge for the emperor's death. It was supposed to be published in 2001, but for some reason, it was cancelled. Crimson Empire III eventually was published in 2011/2012, but the entire plot had been overhauled. No longer was it about Kanos confronting Luke. Now it was about some fanatical remnant of the Empire emerging to strike back at its enemies — a story which had been told a hundred times over in the Star Wars Expanded Universe by that point. It was passe, and a disappointing conclusion to Kanos' story. As a big fan of Star Wars and Dark Horse's run of Star Wars comics, I never quite understood the fan love surrounding the various Crimson Empire series. It was definitely an interesting move to tell the story of an ex-Emporer's Royal Guard, but I found all three series to be a little bland. They're fine and enjoyable enough while you're reading them, but they're pretty forgettable. I've read Crimson Empire and CE II two or three times, and CE III once, but I couldn't begin to tell you what the plot of any of them are. These are some really forgettable SW comics IMO. I will agree with you that CE II was rather on the bland side. I'll go down fighting in the name of CE I, though.  |
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Post by berkley on Dec 8, 2017 19:28:59 GMT -5
As a big fan of Star Wars and Dark Horse's run of Star Wars comics, I never quite understood the fan love surrounding the various Crimson Empire series. It was definitely an interesting move to tell the story of an ex-Emporer's Royal Guard, but I found all three series to be a little bland. They're fine and enjoyable enough while you're reading them, but they're pretty forgettable. I've read Crimson Empire and CE II two or three times, and CE III once, but I couldn't begin to tell you what the plot of any of them are. These are some really forgettable SW comics IMO. I will agree with you that CE II was rather on the bland side. I'll go down fighting in the name of CE I, though. Did Paul Gulacy do the artwork for one of those? I haven't read any Star Wars comics since the issues that adapted the original movie but I remember thinking I might rty Crimson Empire because I like Gulacy's art. Didn't realise there were more than one, though. |
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Post by Duragizer on Dec 8, 2017 19:39:26 GMT -5
I will agree with you that CE II was rather on the bland side. I'll go down fighting in the name of CE I, though. Did Paul Gulacy do the artwork for one of those? I haven't read any Star Wars comics since the issues that adapted the original movie but I remember thinking I might rty Crimson Empire because I like Gulacy's art. Didn't realise there were more than one, though. Yep, he did the art for all three. If you're going to read Crimson Empire, though, you'd have to read Dark Empire/ Dark Empire II/ Empire's End by Tom Veitch first, as Crimson Empire builds off of the ending to that trilogy. |
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Post by rberman on Dec 1, 2018 22:56:25 GMT -5
I guess it was more an explosion in the air than a complete failure to launch, but only two of the planned 12 issues of BIg Numbers came out. Dream team of Alan Moore and Bill Sienkiewicz. Supposed to be a 500 page magnum opus.  Perhaps it's been posted here before, but in 2011, Sienkiewicz' lengthy explanation for the failure of the project was published, having been written quite a bit earlier. The short version is that he realized that he had bitten off more than he could chew in attempting a photorealistic style on the budget and schedule that he was trying to meet. Also, his models, who were mainly neighbors with lives and obligations of their own, were dropping out like flies due to changes in their own circumstances. He tried one more issue (the unpublished #3, now roaming free on the internet) in a less time-intensive fashion but ultimately abandoned the project to take other work that would pay the bills. slovobooks.blogspot.com/2011/01/bill-sienkiewicz-speaks-about-big.html |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 28, 2019 16:08:07 GMT -5
A few weeks ago I was looking into PC comics and their story. It turns out that Topps Comics acquired the rights years later to do Captain Victory with Steve Englehart writing it. He wrote 2 double sized issues but Topps decided not to publish them because the interior artist wasn't ready for the " prime time" as Steve put it. Here Are are the two nice Paul Gulacy covers that were drawn for those issues.   |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 29, 2019 1:29:58 GMT -5
THE SOCIETY. James Robinson's and Matt Wagner's account of the early days of the Justice Society of America. Robinson was also supposed to do a sequel to The Golden Age, to be titled The Silver Age; but, it never happened. Byrne was supposed to do some big event book, called Generation or Second Generation, that sounded different from the Batman/Superman: Generations minis. I believe there were also plans for an X-Men/Legion of Superheroes crossover, before the crossovers died, in the wake of the aborted JLA/Avengers. |
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Post by berkley on Jan 29, 2019 1:44:58 GMT -5
A few weeks ago I was looking into PC comics and their story. It turns out that Topps Comics acquired the rights years later to do Captain Victory with Steve Englehart writing it. He wrote 2 double sized issues but Topps decided not to publish them because the interior artist wasn't ready for the " prime time" as Steve put it. Here Are are the two nice Paul Gulacy covers that were drawn for those issues.
Love that second cover, not too keen on the first one. I'm a huge Gulacy fan but I don't like it when he does foreshortening. But based on that 2nd one, too bad he didn't do the interior artwork, maybe it would have seen print.
I'm not sure, but might this be the only project Englehart and Gulacy ever worked on together? Would love to have seen these two talents combining back in the 70s or 80s, but why not now? Make it happen!
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Post by coinilius on Jan 29, 2019 2:57:40 GMT -5
You can purchase copies of the scripts to the issues that Steve Engleheart had completed for the Captain Victory project from his website - I bought them and read them a while ago and they are an interesting read, both in the context of what Topps was doing with the ‘Kirbyverse’ and in relation to the other takes on Captain Victory there has been over the years.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 29, 2019 4:28:11 GMT -5
Robinson was also supposed to do a sequel to The Golden Age, to be titled The Silver Age; but, it never happened. Sure it did. Only Darwyn Cooke did it and it was called New Frontier ...  |
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