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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 20:28:09 GMT -5
Bleeding Cool is reporting (and I use that term loosely as it's Bleeding Cool) that DC is considering switching writers and artists to the Marvel method of plot first, then art then script, having the artists do the grunt work of breaking down the story into panels and pages and moving away formt he full script method. They have a companion article about Marvel's current views on the Marvel method (apparently only 1 writer at Marvel uses it, believed to be Dan Slott). Curious to see how this plays out, especially on twice a month books that have rotating teams, which might lead to less consistency in storytelling techniques between arcs or within arcs with different artists. It would also mean DC would step away from their practice of doing art team jam issues to get books out on schedule without being late as was a trademark move of editorial during the new52 era. It's a curious move in this era, and I am curious what the reasons are behind the potential move (if true, and I take the potential reasons BC provides with a grain of salt). -M
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Post by Warmonger on Nov 14, 2017 21:16:21 GMT -5
Sounds good in theory, but Marvel’s mainstream stuff, for the most part, has been pretty awful for years now.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 15, 2017 10:18:06 GMT -5
It's not like it's the first time DC used "the Marvel method." Roy Thomas worked that way during his time at DC, and I'm pretty sure other writers have too.
Cei-U! I summon the precedent!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 12:46:08 GMT -5
It's not like it's the first time DC used "the Marvel method." Roy Thomas worked that way during his time at DC, and I'm pretty sure other writers have too. Cei-U! I summon the precedent! But this might be the first time it is an editorial mandate and that writers used to doing full script will be required to use the Marvel method. -M
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 15, 2017 13:14:43 GMT -5
It's a very strange move, hopefully it produces some good results.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 21, 2017 0:02:07 GMT -5
It's not the method' it's the content that brings sales. Both methods have been equally successful, with the right people creating the material. That's what they don't seem to get. They are talking mechanics, not innovation. If that is going to be an actual experiment, I doubt it will have any tangible effect on sales, over more than a couple of issues.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 0:43:15 GMT -5
It's not the method' it's the content that brings sales. Both methods have been equally successful, with the right people creating the material. That's what they don't seem to get. They are talking mechanics, not innovation. If that is going to be an actual experiment, I doubt it will have any tangible effect on sales, over more than a couple of issues. I think it's more they are trying to cash in on the perception that they have a stronger stable of artists currently than Marvel (accurate or not it seems to be the perception among the fanboy legions) by giving those artists a "bigger role" and at the same time refrain form making the the kind of missteps they made when they gave "superstar" artists like David Finch, Bryan Hitch and Tony Daniel their own books to write (which kept the creators happy but were not that well received among the customer base). This way the artists can stretch their writer muscles doing the plot/art first and a more experienced/talented scripter can be used to to complete the issue and hem in the excesses and missteps the artist inexperienced in writing may carry with them as baggage while still giving the superstar name the prominence they hope will translate into sales. Remember they are not actually selling to end customers, but to retailers who determine what sales numbers are going to be, and retailers buy books they think will sell to that hardcore base that comprises the bulk of the direct market buyers. Avoiding the lingering stigma of books written by Finch and that ilk while still cashing on on their names and allowing them a more prominent role to keep them interested and content working for DC are the selling points to the experiment with the Marvel method, not necessarily actual end customer sales. It;s all perception and PR and using that to tilt the market share and hype machine back in their direction again after the Legacy initiative stole some of the Rebirth sales and hype thunder. -M
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