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Post by berkley on Nov 19, 2017 21:19:44 GMT -5
Jeez, what a kill joy you are sometimes, mrp. This whole thread is for people to fantasise about the dream projects that they'd like to see. We're not interested in market viability, demographic considerations or company policy -- we just wanna dream, Godammit! Unrealistic expectations only add to life's disappointments and lead to people becoming more bitter and cynical and to wallow in negativity about what is. And if you want to make real change, you first have to comprehend what the reality is that you are starting from or any attempts at change will be futile because they don't account for what you are actually trying to change. Trying to make changes without first taking into account the reality only leads to frustration and failure, and more disappointment, cynicism and negativity. Dreams only come true if one understands the path to achieving them, and what good are dreams if they can't propel one towards a better reality. I don't do what I do to be a buzzkill but to provide a reality check so if people are serious about their dreams they have a starting place to begin trying to make those dreams a reality and understand what needs to be changed for it to happen. Don't just dream, DO! -M So, just to get this straight - you don't think there should be any threads or even comments about what readers would like to see, just threads and comments about what they might realistically think could possibly happen given the nature of the industry as it exists today and in the foreseeable future?
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Post by chadwilliam on Nov 19, 2017 21:20:07 GMT -5
I would like a retro series based on the JSA's post WWII adventures (1946-1951). I'd go a little further ahead in time and focus on what the individual members did following their breakup in 1951. It always bothered me that we're expected to believe that the JSA just petulantly stopped helping mankind because of pressure from the H.U.A.C. Somehow I just can't see these guys adopting a "You're gonna be hard on us? Fine, we'll just stop saving lives - maybe that'll teach you!" policy. I'd like to see Jay Garrick playing the role of pipe smoking retired guy who sits on his porch all day who just smiles and shrugs when the FBI comes around to ask if he knows anything about all those reports of a blur averting disasters all around town. Why not have Alan Scott use his ring to wipe out Earth's memory after each of his tussles with say, a 200 foot tall, Ultra-Humanite possessed Eisenhower on the White House lawn?
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Post by Confessor on Nov 19, 2017 21:26:10 GMT -5
I too love the Ewoks. Though it might sound a bit superior and "holier than thou", I've long been of the opinion that if you dislike the Ewoks, then you've kinda missed the point of what Star Wars is about. What do you mean? I have no strong feelings on Ewoks either way, I'm just curious. Well, first up, let me just say that I'm exaggerating a little. But, what I'm getting at is that the underlying central theme of the Star Wars films -- especially the original trilogy -- is the triumph of the human spirit over a technologically superior enemy. We see this again and again in the films, and when I say "human spirit", I really mean any organic life-form, especially one as primitive as the Ewoks. Right from the earliest drafts of SW, George Lucas had the idea of the Empire bring overthrown with the help of a society of primatives. Initially, it was supposed to be the Wookiees, but by the time Return of the Jedi was being thought about, the Wookiees had been shown to be rather advanced -- for example, Chewbacca could fire a blaster, fly and repair a starship, and rebuild a protocol droid. So Lucas decided to introduce a new race of primative creatures in the shape of the Ewoks. It's no secret that Star Wars is heavily based on and influenced by myths and fairy tales. I've heard Lucas describe the Ewoks as "the bunny rabbit at the side of the road that gives the hero the magic potion to kill the wicked witch." They were a primitive race that used their enginuity, their bravery and their "Ewok spirit" to defeat the Empire -- a far superior technological force. The Ewok victory against the Empire is the central underlying theme of Star Wars writ large. To dismiss the Ewoks is to misunderstand the essence of Star Wars, in my opinion.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 19, 2017 22:36:37 GMT -5
I love the idea of a 'Classic Marvel Star Wars' book.. never happen (Disney is busy making continuity, they're not going to muck it up), but I'd sure buy it. I feel like Marvel missed the boat on having a Pepper Potts as Rescue book.. doing a female version of a corporate CEO-superhero could have been awesome in the right hands. I want a Nightwing book that really, actually gets him away from the bat books, and ties into the Titans. Better still, give me 'Titans Spotlight' back . Finally, I wish Crossgen didn't expand themselves into bankruptcy, and foolishly try to have a 'universe' with their varied properties. I would have loved longer runs of Brath, El Calzador, Ruse, and Abadazad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 22:47:31 GMT -5
I would buy a Legends Star Wars comic in a heartbeat.
Not to mention if they finished off a bunch of the lingering, unresolved threads from the Legends novels as well.
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 19, 2017 23:05:35 GMT -5
I would like a retro series based on the JSA's post WWII adventures (1946-1951). I'd go a little further ahead in time and focus on what the individual members did following their breakup in 1951. It always bothered me that we're expected to believe that the JSA just petulantly stopped helping mankind because of pressure from the H.U.A.C. Somehow I just can't see these guys adopting a "You're gonna be hard on us? Fine, we'll just stop saving lives - maybe that'll teach you!" policy. I'd like to see Jay Garrick playing the role of pipe smoking retired guy who sits on his porch all day who just smiles and shrugs when the FBI comes around to ask if he knows anything about all those reports of a blur averting disasters all around town. Why not have Alan Scott use his ring to wipe out Earth's memory after each of his tussles with say, a 200 foot tall, Ultra-Humanite possessed Eisenhower on the White House lawn? This totally makes sense to me, in a James Robinson Golden Age-style way. Take my money dammit !
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 19, 2017 23:09:03 GMT -5
I love the idea of a 'Classic Marvel Star Wars' book.. never happen (Disney is busy making continuity, they're not going to muck it up), but I'd sure buy it. I feel like Marvel missed the boat on having a Pepper Potts as Rescue book.. doing a female version of a corporate CEO-superhero could have been awesome in the right hands. I want a Nightwing book that really, actually gets him away from the bat books, and ties into the Titans. Better still, give me 'Titans Spotlight' back . Finally, I wish Crossgen didn't expand themselves into bankruptcy, and foolishly try to have a 'universe' with their varied properties. I would have loved longer runs of Brath, El Calzador, Ruse, and Abadazad. Never read Ruse, though I heard it was good, and wasn't a shared CrossGen universe guy, but I read and liked Brath, El Cazador and Abadazad and would love to have had more, though that won't happen under The Mouse, and if it does, it won't be the same quality as what we had.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 23:12:43 GMT -5
Sigil and Scion were my favs, but I read the whole Crossgen line.
I know it’ll never happen but, man, would I love to see the conclusion to Negation War.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2017 23:26:03 GMT -5
I would like a retro series based on the JSA's post WWII adventures (1946-1951). I'd go a little further ahead in time and focus on what the individual members did following their breakup in 1951. It always bothered me that we're expected to believe that the JSA just petulantly stopped helping mankind because of pressure from the H.U.A.C. Somehow I just can't see these guys adopting a "You're gonna be hard on us? Fine, we'll just stop saving lives - maybe that'll teach you!" policy. I'd like to see Jay Garrick playing the role of pipe smoking retired guy who sits on his porch all day who just smiles and shrugs when the FBI comes around to ask if he knows anything about all those reports of a blur averting disasters all around town. Why not have Alan Scott use his ring to wipe out Earth's memory after each of his tussles with say, a 200 foot tall, Ultra-Humanite possessed Eisenhower on the White House lawn? IMO the Atomic Age (1946-56) is an era both DC & Marvel ignore from their histories. When they focus on anything pre-Silver Age they always focus on stuff printed between 1938-45. I find that time (1946-56) fascinating when stories had to shift from the WWII setting to peace time. From Nazi spies to common criminals or super villains.
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Post by chadwilliam on Nov 20, 2017 1:18:32 GMT -5
I'd go a little further ahead in time and focus on what the individual members did following their breakup in 1951. It always bothered me that we're expected to believe that the JSA just petulantly stopped helping mankind because of pressure from the H.U.A.C. Somehow I just can't see these guys adopting a "You're gonna be hard on us? Fine, we'll just stop saving lives - maybe that'll teach you!" policy. I'd like to see Jay Garrick playing the role of pipe smoking retired guy who sits on his porch all day who just smiles and shrugs when the FBI comes around to ask if he knows anything about all those reports of a blur averting disasters all around town. Why not have Alan Scott use his ring to wipe out Earth's memory after each of his tussles with say, a 200 foot tall, Ultra-Humanite possessed Eisenhower on the White House lawn? IMO the Atomic Age (1946-56) is an era both DC & Marvel ignore from their histories. When they focus on anything pre-Silver Age they always focus on stuff printed between 1938-45. I find that time (1946-56) fascinating when stories had to shift from the WWII setting to peace time. From Nazi spies to common criminals or super villains. I like how the Marvel Universe's only protection from alien invasions and giant monsters between the mid 1950's and 1961 were ordinary people in the street. No Captain America, Human Torch, Fantastic Four to stop the seemingly unstoppable, yet mags such as Tales to Astonish, Amazing Fantasy, Strange Tales, and so forth were resplendent with story after story explaining how Bob the Shoeshine guy could vanquish the invasion of Mole People or Evans the History Professor could defeat a living mummy or whatever. I'd like to see a series explore what would have happened if the Marvel Universe never saw the explosion of superheroes in the 1960's that it did and how beings such as Galactus and the Skrulls would have been stopped if it were up to Joe Average.
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 20, 2017 8:59:51 GMT -5
IMO the Atomic Age (1946-56) is an era both DC & Marvel ignore from their histories. When they focus on anything pre-Silver Age they always focus on stuff printed between 1938-45. I find that time (1946-56) fascinating when stories had to shift from the WWII setting to peace time. From Nazi spies to common criminals or super villains. I like how the Marvel Universe's only protection from alien invasions and giant monsters between the mid 1950's and 1961 were ordinary people in the street. No Captain America, Human Torch, Fantastic Four to stop the seemingly unstoppable, yet mags such as Tales to Astonish, Amazing Fantasy, Strange Tales, and so forth were resplendent with story after story explaining how Bob the Shoeshine guy could vanquish the invasion of Mole People or Evans the History Professor could defeat a living mummy or whatever. I'd like to see a series explore what would have happened if the Marvel Universe never saw the explosion of superheroes in the 1960's that it did and how beings such as Galactus and the Skrulls would have been stopped if it were up to Joe Average. Never really thought of this, but it's so true, and not just of the Atlas stories, but also of DC's. The early years of Strange Adventures in particular are loaded with stories pitting one clever Earthman vs. an alien threat. Mystery in Space used the same gambit, often dressed up as space opera. And of course, My Greatest Adventure's original gimmick was all about "I" and "We" saving the Earth.
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Post by Confessor on Nov 20, 2017 9:18:17 GMT -5
I love the idea of a 'Classic Marvel Star Wars' book.. never happen (Disney is busy making continuity, they're not going to muck it up), but I'd sure buy it. Yeah, I would love for Disney to have Marvel Comics launch a monthly continuation of the old Marvel Star Wars continuity, under the "Legends" banner. It could pick up right where issue #107 left off, with Jo Duffy writing the book again, and maybe, later on, we could have guest writers like David Michelinie or the return of artists like Walt Simonson. I'd be all over a comic like that in a heartbeat!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 20, 2017 10:46:24 GMT -5
I like how the Marvel Universe's only protection from alien invasions and giant monsters between the mid 1950's and 1961 were ordinary people in the street. No Captain America, Human Torch, Fantastic Four to stop the seemingly unstoppable, yet mags such as Tales to Astonish, Amazing Fantasy, Strange Tales, and so forth were resplendent with story after story explaining how Bob the Shoeshine guy could vanquish the invasion of Mole People or Evans the History Professor could defeat a living mummy or whatever. I'd like to see a series explore what would have happened if the Marvel Universe never saw the explosion of superheroes in the 1960's that it did and how beings such as Galactus and the Skrulls would have been stopped if it were up to Joe Average. Never really thought of this, but it's so true, and not just of the Atlas stories, but also of DC's. The early years of Strange Adventures in particular are loaded with stories pitting one clever Earthman vs. an alien threat. Mystery in Space used the same gambit, often dressed up as space opera. And of course, My Greatest Adventure's original gimmick was all about "I" and "We" saving the Earth. It's because it was all those returned veterans that were fighting off the menaces. They didn't need any super-heroes to protect them.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Nov 20, 2017 12:51:43 GMT -5
IMO the Atomic Age (1946-56) is an era both DC & Marvel ignore from their histories. When they focus on anything pre-Silver Age they always focus on stuff printed between 1938-45. I find that time (1946-56) fascinating when stories had to shift from the WWII setting to peace time. From Nazi spies to common criminals or super villains. I know this is fanfic, but: www.fanfiction.net/s/9339039/1/The-Atomic-Age
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Post by String on Nov 20, 2017 19:37:10 GMT -5
Although I've been stockpiling all Superman and Action issues, I haven't read them all yet. What is the current status of Kandor, Is it in another galaxy? Last I can remember it was enlarged & placed on another planet called New Krypton. Before the Nu52 reboot, this was around the time where Johns was re-introducing certain classic Silver Age elements back into Superman (such as Clark having adventures with the Legion as Superboy but only as Superboy in the 30th century). So, Superman once again saved Kandor from Brainiac and had the bottle city at his Fortress. But events conspired to the point where the city was able to utilize Brainiac's tech to launch the city into space where it became normal-sized and 'grew' a new planet underneath it, New Krypton, which took up orbit directly opposite from Earth. This lead to a year-long (maybe two year) story line which crossed through Superman, Action Comics, and Supergirl. Johns, James Robinson, and Sterling Gates were the main writers with art by Pete Woods, Gary Frank and Jamal Ingle for the majority. Overall, they had some hiccups but I enjoyed the event for the most part.
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