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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 25, 2017 9:21:46 GMT -5
Which knocks out Harley Quinn's original look.  As well as one of my favourite comic-book villains ever: Baron Karza.  Actually, I think the comic book Karza differs enough from the toy to qualify. Cei-U! Bummer about Harley, though! |
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Post by foxley on Nov 26, 2017 2:34:24 GMT -5
Do a pair of villains who share a unified look count as one choice?
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 26, 2017 10:15:08 GMT -5
Do a pair of villains who share a unified look count as one choice? Can you give me an example? Cei-U! I summon more details! |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 26, 2017 11:34:30 GMT -5
Do a pair of villains who share a unified look count as one choice? Can you give me an example? Cei-U! I summon more details! Maybe like the AIM Agent uniforms? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2017 11:36:19 GMT -5
Can you give me an example? Cei-U! I summon more details! Maybe like the AIM Agent uniforms? I was thinking something like Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee from the Batman Rogues gallery as an example. -M |
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 26, 2017 12:21:36 GMT -5
The AIM uniforms and the Tweedles are absolutely eligible. Which may change my own list, now that I think about it. Hmmm...
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Post by foxley on Nov 26, 2017 16:14:08 GMT -5
The AIM uniforms and the Tweedles are absolutely eligible. Which may change my own list, now that I think about it. Hmmm... Cei-U! I summon the Documents file! Tweedledee and Tweedledum would be one example. Another would be Bug and Byte. Although their costumes were not identical, they were thematically linked, and they always appeared as a duo. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 26, 2017 16:55:07 GMT -5
The AIM uniforms and the Tweedles are absolutely eligible. Which may change my own list, now that I think about it. Hmmm... Cei-U! I summon the Documents file! Tweedledee and Tweedledum would be one example. Another would be Bug and Byte. Although their costumes were not identical, they were thematically linked, and they always appeared as a duo. I would allow Bug & Byte. Ditto for Thunder and Lightning from the Teen Titans. I would not allow Mammoth and Shimmer or Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. Cei-U! I summon the thematic unity! |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 27, 2017 8:22:17 GMT -5
I am wondering about cosmic characters with ambiguous status.
Galactus or Death are pretty clear-cut. Although they will sometimes be shown as being part of the normal order of things, they are mostly trying to do us harm.
The Celestials, on the other hand, are mostly minding their own business; however, since they were this close to destroying humanity in Thor #300, they could be seen as "villains" at some point. Ditto for beings like Eternity or the Living Tribunal, who are usually not motivated by ill intentions but may decide to destroy the universe and are opposed by our heroes. Would they be eligible?
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 27, 2017 9:28:47 GMT -5
I'd say they all qualify, Ben, with the cautionary note that the Celestials differ from each other enough in appearance that they can't be cited en masse.
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Post by brutalis on Nov 27, 2017 10:07:57 GMT -5
Oy vey, let the brain pain begin.........
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Post by shaxper on Nov 27, 2017 10:42:38 GMT -5
Can I use a character who, while a criminal, is actually the protagonist (for lack of a better word) in his own books? Yes. Cei-U! I summon the Cei-U! seal of approval! Expanding upon this, what about characters who follow a moral code but are clearly villains from the perspective of the law? Punisher, for example. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 27, 2017 10:47:39 GMT -5
Yes. Cei-U! I summon the Cei-U! seal of approval! Expanding upon this, what about characters who follow a moral code but are clearly villains from the perspective of the law? Punisher, for example. That's a hard one, but since Punisher has at times been the villain of a story I would allow it. Cei-U! I summon the judgment call! |
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Post by shaxper on Nov 27, 2017 10:56:39 GMT -5
Expanding upon this, what about characters who follow a moral code but are clearly villains from the perspective of the law? Punisher, for example. That's a hard one, but since Punisher has at times been the villain of a story I would allow it. Cei-U! I summon the judgment call! Yeah, that really really opens up a slippery slope, doesn't it? I'm a little sorry I asked. So the deciding criteria is that the narrative portrays them as the villain on occasion? For example, the X-Men couldn't count because the law hates them but the reader supports them? T |
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 27, 2017 13:32:05 GMT -5
That's a hard one, but since Punisher has at times been the villain of a story I would allow it. Cei-U! I summon the judgment call! Yeah, that really really opens up a slippery slope, doesn't it? I'm a little sorry I asked. So the deciding criteria is that the narrative portrays them as the villain on occasion? For example, the X-Men couldn't count because the law hates them but the reader supports them? T Hmm, yeah. You know, maybe we should differentiate between an anti-hero like Hulk or Sub-Mariner (not eligible) and an all-out villain like Kobra or Dracula. If your first thought when you hear a character's name is "hero" and not "villain," he/she's probably not eligible. I promise to be lenient with those who straddle the line. Cei-U! I summon the rule of thumb! |
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