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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 23:24:19 GMT -5
Mike Avila sits down with Starlin and talks Thanos, death in comics, killing Marvel, the Marvel movies and the recent split with Marvel editorial...
Some interesting tidbits and insights in there, but a lot of familiar ground too.
-M
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 28, 2018 7:17:24 GMT -5
Is the Dreadstar TV series still happening ?
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 28, 2018 9:15:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up MRP. I will watch this during my lunch today.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Feb 28, 2018 9:52:03 GMT -5
I'll always be a Starlin fan. It's a shame that modern Marvel publishing doesn't seem to respect legendary creators not named Stan Lee or Jack Kirby. They have no problem making money off of them with nostalgia projects, of course. But when it comes to the current boys club/cliques, they seem to be treated as stubborn oddities and outsiders. From what I gather, given another interview I read by Starlin, Brevoort flat out stole Starlin's plot and gave it to his new flavor of the month. This isn't the first clash between Starlin and Brevoort. I think Starlin's self-bio in this interview points out why he's destined to butt heads with the modern editorial driven Marvel publishing method: her grew up in the wild west, anything goes decade that was 70's Marvel.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 12:35:24 GMT -5
Is the Dreadstar TV series still happening ? I've not heard anything about it since it was optioned, and that was a couple years back so I am guessing it's stuck in development hell. No showrunner or casting was ever announced, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on it. -M |
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 28, 2018 19:35:30 GMT -5
Its a shame that Marvel is undermining him like that. But as he said legally it's their character and they can do what they want with him. But glad to hear he still wants to write. Maybe he'll write some of his own stuff again like Gilgamesh II, Cosmic Guard/Kid Kosmos, Wyrd or Breed.
Anyway thanks for posting it MRP.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Feb 28, 2018 21:50:18 GMT -5
Starlin. Such a cool last name. Not so on the nose cool. And of course he grows up to write cosmic comic books.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 28, 2018 22:12:43 GMT -5
I'll always be a Starlin fan. It's a shame that modern Marvel publishing doesn't seem to respect legendary creators not named Stan Lee or Jack Kirby. They have no problem making money off of them with nostalgia projects, of course. But when it comes to the current boys club/cliques, they seem to be treated as stubborn oddities and outsiders. From what I gather, given another interview I read by Starlin, Brevoort flat out stole Starlin's plot and gave it to his new flavor of the month. This isn't the first clash between Starlin and Brevoort. I think Starlin's self-bio in this interview points out why he's destined to butt heads with the modern editorial driven Marvel publishing method: her grew up in the wild west, anything goes decade that was 70's Marvel. Marvel publishing never respected Kirby, beyond their ability to exploit his name and talent. Individuals at Marve; respected him and the fans did; but not the owners and powers that be. I'm not so sure you could say the organization respected Stan, as much as knew he was the face of Marvel to the world and it was best to keep him happy. Again, individuals did; but, the organization was happy to exploit, while throwing him more bones than the rest got. I love comic books; but, the publishers had far less respect for the people who worked in the field than any other form of publishing and exploited them far more. There have been good executives, who tried to alter the landscape; but, their efforts were often futile, and rarely long term. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 22:36:28 GMT -5
Its a shame that Marvel is undermining him like that. But as he said legally it's their character and they can do what they want with him. But glad to hear he still wants to write. Maybe he'll write some of his own stuff again like Gilgamesh II, Cosmic Guard/Kid Kosmos, Wyrd or Breed. Anyway thanks for posting it MRP. He's done two illustrated novels in ebook form available at Amazon that build off the Hardcore Station universe he built. The first is called Lazgood Boys, the second was Hardcore Mindgames. They do not use the DC characters, but the setting of Hardcore Station which Starlin retained the rights to even though he wrote it for DC. Mindgames was released second but is book 0, Lazgood Boys was released first and is book 1. Both game out in 2017 I believe. -M |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Mar 1, 2018 18:44:43 GMT -5
I'll always be a Starlin fan. It's a shame that modern Marvel publishing doesn't seem to respect legendary creators not named Stan Lee or Jack Kirby. They have no problem making money off of them with nostalgia projects, of course. But when it comes to the current boys club/cliques, they seem to be treated as stubborn oddities and outsiders. From what I gather, given another interview I read by Starlin, Brevoort flat out stole Starlin's plot and gave it to his new flavor of the month. This isn't the first clash between Starlin and Brevoort. I think Starlin's self-bio in this interview points out why he's destined to butt heads with the modern editorial driven Marvel publishing method: her grew up in the wild west, anything goes decade that was 70's Marvel. Marvel publishing never respected Kirby, beyond their ability to exploit his name and talent. Individuals at Marve; respected him and the fans did; but not the owners and powers that be. I'm not so sure you could say the organization respected Stan, as much as knew he was the face of Marvel to the world and it was best to keep him happy. Again, individuals did; but, the organization was happy to exploit, while throwing him more bones than the rest got. I love comic books; but, the publishers had far less respect for the people who worked in the field than any other form of publishing and exploited them far more. There have been good executives, who tried to alter the landscape; but, their efforts were often futile, and rarely long term. I have no illusions that the owners ever cared about the comics content, much less the individuals creating it. I was talking about the actual hands on editors, specifically the ones today. I get the feeling that someone like Starlin is too independent and no-nonsense to work with the likes of Brevoort given his recent antics. |
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Post by Nowhere Man on Mar 1, 2018 18:46:23 GMT -5
I picked up a few more Image trades today on Comixology and was reminded of Starlin's Breed series while browsing. I've never read this but was wondering if it's a good read. Anyone recommend it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 18:52:59 GMT -5
I picked up a few more Image trades today on Comixology and was reminded of Starlin's Breed series while browsing. I've never read this but was wondering if it's a good read. Anyone recommend it? I enjoyed the first series. The second series less so. I didn't dislike it, but it was a bit of a let down after the first series, mostly because it felt like a bridge to Breed III which was the climax, but then Bravura fizzled. Not sure if the Breed III Image put out was the intended conclusion Starlin had in mind when I and II were written. I've picked it up as back issues (it came out when I was on a comics hiatus), but I have yet to read it. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 23:22:56 GMT -5
Welp Marvel officially announced the Thanos OGN by Starlin & Davis that was at the heart of the dispute that led to Starlin leaving Marvel again. It is titled-appropriately or ironically I am not sure-The Infinity Conflict.
-M
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Post by rberman on Apr 19, 2018 14:26:25 GMT -5
Lots of interesting interviews in that series. In this one, Neal Adams says that an artist's "style" is the degree to which his end result is 'wrong' with respect to photorealism. He sorta sounds like he means it that photorealism is the goal. Neal does have quite a realistic style.
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Post by Pat T on Apr 24, 2018 18:42:17 GMT -5
Starlin has also had fallings out with DC over the course of his career. He's written some great stories, but he's a malcontent (a trait many artists
seem to possess). I'm sure all the publishers know going in that at some point he will get upset about some perceived slight and leave on bad terms.
I've worked with people like that. If they're good, you just ride that horse while they are productive, realizing that it won't last. Eventually he'll
burn all his bridges with Marvel and DC, if he hasn't already.
I'm sure all the publishers are aware of his antics, too,
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