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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 9, 2018 14:09:46 GMT -5
There's a science thread. But I don't think there's a history thread (though I've posted some archaeology stuff there, which kind of straddles the line). So I thought I'd start a little place for things historical...mostly since I recently watched a short documentary on the Battle of Towton and wanted someplace to note it.
The documentary here is slightly less about the battle itself and its place in history than it is about the discovery of a mass grave near the battle-site and some forensic anthropology dealing with the remains. However, there was enough about the battle to pique my interest and send me to Wiki. My knowledge of English/British history is episodic. And my knowledge of the War of the Roses is pretty cursory, so Towton really didn't mean a lot to me. It boggles my mind a bit that the battle, which was a turning point in the Wars of the Roses had somehow escaped my attention.
I have Dan Jones' book "The War of the Roses" on my reading list. I've previously read his book "The Plantagenets" and enjoyed it so I'll likely move it up a bit.
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Post by Cei-U! on Mar 9, 2018 17:30:26 GMT -5
I read a LOT of history, as my bookshelves attest. Currently, I'm poring through William Manchester's "The Glory and the Dream" in search of a good quote about the Home Front to use in the next chapter of my book. Also on my nightstand awaiting attention is "Death in the Haymarket" about the infamous Haymarket Square riot.
Cei-U! I summon the spirit of Howard Zinn!
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Post by berkley on Mar 10, 2018 0:37:02 GMT -5
Great idea for a thread.
My own history reading has been pretty much on the back-burner the last few years as I've been concentrating more on filling in some of the many holes in my fiction reading, but I hope to get back to it in the not too distant future.
I suppose I am getting a bit of history in an indirect way, since I'm going through a lot of stuff from the late 19th century. Mostly cultural rather than political history - memoirs, things like that. I've been reading the Goncourt Journals off and on the last year or so, for example. These were diaries kept by the two Goncourt brothers, well known writers in the Paris literary world, so you get lots of anecdotes about other famous French writers of the time but also a bit of political gossip now and then as they were pretty well-connected.
And in a comics connection, there are two books about real-life figures involved in some important historical events near the top of my pile: Chester Brown's Louis Riel about the Métis Rebellion in Canada in the 1870s, and Mary and Bryan Talbot's The Red Virgin and the Vision of Utopia, about Louise Michel, a revolutionary involved in the Paris Commune.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 10, 2018 1:32:28 GMT -5
My history reading has been more article-driven, for quite a while now. I love history; but, I hadn't been picking up many history books for a long time. I have a bunch of things I want to read; but, haven't really had to time, on top of the other reading I am doing. Most of what I have read in recent years has been military history.
Thanks to Babylon Berlin, I have been chasing down on-line articles about Weimar Germany, to compare and contrast with what you see in the series. Most of it is pretty accurate, while mixing in the pop culture elements of things like elements of German cinema, into the narrative (things like Dr Mabuse and Dr Caligari). It's a real mix of crime fiction, actual history, pop culture history and more.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Mar 10, 2018 4:05:13 GMT -5
Since I have a degree in history, I'll probably be popping in here occasionally. Normally I do read quite a bit of books on history and current affairs, but for the last year or so I've been reading (genre) fiction almost exclusively (had some heavy stuff happening in real life, so I had a real need for escapism). That said, quite recently I read the book Holy Rollers about a notorious religious cult that was active in Oregon at the very start of the 20th century. This was an interesting episode in Oregon history, but the book is, frankly, rather uneven. It drags at places, and overall its not that well composed. The authors eschewed the use of footnotes or endnotes, which was really unfortunate, because there are many places in text where I was really interested in the source of specific quotes, etc. That decision is surprising, since both of them, at least according to the author blurbs, are academically trained (one is a paleontologist and the other a professor at a community college). Also, just last night night I read Joe Kubert's Yossel, which is a work of fiction, but based on very real historical events. (Maybe I should have mentioned it in the "Make War No More" thread?)
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Post by The Captain on Mar 10, 2018 6:49:18 GMT -5
I'll definitely be checking in on this thread from time to time. My first degree is in Secondary Social Studies Ed., with a focus on history, so I've done a lot of historical reading and reaearch in my life, although not as much lately, but as I get older, I'm finding myself drawn back to it.
Great idea, Slam!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2018 8:32:45 GMT -5
I'm a more documentary type person watching on an average of 15-20 hours a week on the History Channel, Military Channel, and others too ... I love Civil War, WWI, WW2, Roaring Twenties, Retro, and anything that suits me fancy. I also read about 5 hours a week ... more than Comics of which I do about 1-2 hours ... this is a great thread and thanks for starting it up Slam_Bradley!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 10, 2018 9:00:56 GMT -5
I find myself more reading alternate history or historical fiction, then using the internet to compare it to real life more than reading straight non-fiction (which sometimes gets a bit boring, IMO). I do have a special fondness for Civil War stuff though... I have a couple really cool books on life in the Confederacy that I really found interesting. Most recently, I've been watching Turn on Netflix, and have the book that came out that discusses the real history behind it on tap to read after I finish watching I have tat Bryan Talbot trade in my possession as well to read one of these days.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 10, 2018 12:07:18 GMT -5
By way of background history was easily my first love. Before I was reading comics regularly I was taking out every book at the library about history that I could find. I suspect that the American Bicentennial had something to do with my love, as the Colonial Period of the US was always a focus. I swear I was the only 2nd grader ever who wanted to be a history professor. Eventually I moved on to hard sciences and SF reading (and comics). And then political science and law. But I've always loved history and was only a language requirement away from a double major in Political Science and History.
I did pass my love of history on to my middle son who will be getting a degree in History (with an endorsement to teach secondary ed history and government). And he wanted to be a history professor himself (his main area is French colonial history). But unfortunately academia has become a starvation position outside the hard sciences and tech so he is talking about going to law school after he gets back from The Peace Corps.
But his passion has rekindled mine and I've been reading a lot of history and archaeology articles and watching documentaries as well as interspersing history reading (both actual and historical fiction) into my regular reading rotation. Next up is City of Fortune: How Venice Ruled the Seas by Roger Crowley a popular history of the rise and decline of Venice as a trading empire. It's the last of Crowley's works left for me to read. His previous books, focusing on the Portuguese Empire; the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans; and the expansion of the Ottoman Empire by Suleiman the Magnificent have all been great reads. I'll probably post thoughts on it as I read it. It's about 1 1/2 short books out on the list.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 10, 2018 12:47:41 GMT -5
A short documentary on the short reign of Edward VI, the much longed for son of Henry VIII. I'm fairly well versed in Tudor era English history from a variety of sources. But Edward VI's rule was so short and he was so young that I probably just skimmed over it, only looking at the broader scope of things, particularly regarding his successors. It was interesting to see that he was a well-written, serious young man (not surprising in retrospect) who seems to have had a definite vision for how his England would be. This was a pivotal time in England's history given the Protestant reformation and the issues of succession with Edward and his sisters Mary and Elizabeth. It was a time when England would start to take its place in the world and begin to move to Empire.
There's a short time investment here, but it's worth-while to take a look at ruler who is a footnote in the overwhelming shadow of his father and his sisters.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 11, 2018 11:42:10 GMT -5
I read a LOT of history, as my bookshelves attest. Currently, I'm poring through William Manchester's "The Glory and the Dream" in search of a good quote about the Home Front to use in the next chapter of my book. Also on my nightstand awaiting attention is "Death in the Haymarket" about the infamous Haymarket Square riot. Cei-U! I summon the spirit of Howard Zinn! "The Glory and the Dream" is a feast. I loved the sequence of short biographies of Americans who really have mattered, but, for various reasons, are forgotten. Those of Debs and Reuther jump to mind immediately. I'm sure there are others, but one odd omission form Manchester's encyclopedic volume is the saga of Apollo 13, which gripped the nation for quite a few days. I would recommend "Goodbye, Darkness," Manchester's memoir of his time serving in the Pacific as well. His nerve-snapping account of a face-to-face showdown with a Japanese sniper is more than worth the price of admission. Ah, Zinn. All of his books and essays are bracing, honest, unrelenting, and heartfelt. Check out his autobiographical book, "You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train." Remind me to tell you of the time he spoke to a graduating class at a tiny, staid "independent" school where I taught for a few years... classic.
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 11, 2018 11:46:08 GMT -5
By way of background history was easily my first love. Before I was reading comics regularly I was taking out every book at the library about history that I could find. I suspect that the American Bicentennial had something to do with my love, as the Colonial Period of the US was always a focus. I swear I was the only 2nd grader ever who wanted to be a history professor. Eventually I moved on to hard sciences and SF reading (and comics). And then political science and law. But I've always loved history and was only a language requirement away from a double major in Political Science and History. I did pass my love of history on to my middle son who will be getting a degree in History (with an endorsement to teach secondary ed history and government). And he wanted to be a history professor himself (his main area is French colonial history). But unfortunately academia has become a starvation position outside the hard sciences and tech so he is talking about going to law school after he gets back from The Peace Corps. But his passion has rekindled mine and I've been reading a lot of history and archaeology articles and watching documentaries as well as interspersing history reading (both actual and historical fiction) into my regular reading rotation. Next up is City of Fortune: How Venice Ruled the Seas by Roger Crowley a popular history of the rise and decline of Venice as a trading empire. It's the last of Crowley's works left for me to read. His previous books, focusing on the Portuguese Empire; the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans; and the expansion of the Ottoman Empire by Suleiman the Magnificent have all been great reads. I'll probably post thoughts on it as I read it. It's about 1 1/2 short books out on the list. Great, great idea for a thread. I love bitching about COIE as much as the next nerd, but ya gotta have more in your diet than fried butter.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 12:16:04 GMT -5
Just finished this book. Description: "The twenties and thirties witnessed dramatic changes in American life: increasing urbanization, technological innovation, cultural upheaval, and economic disaster. In this fascinating book, the prize-winning historian David Kyvig describes everyday life in these decades, when automobiles and home electricity became commonplace, when radio and the movies became broadly popular"Really nice study of the changes that occurred in America that affect us 100 yrs later. Shows how society changed & why... I highly recommend it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2018 12:24:44 GMT -5
Today marks the 207th anniversary of the birth of the Luddite movement.
-M (practically a neo-Luddite himself)
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Post by Prince Hal on Mar 11, 2018 12:25:47 GMT -5
Today marks the 207th anniversary of the birth of the Luddite movement. -M (practically a neo-Luddite himself) I stopped reading before they came into exisrence.
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