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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2018 23:52:57 GMT -5
Forty years to the day of the release of Fantasy Quarterly and the debut of Elfquest, Elfquest the Final Quest #24 ending the saga was released. SYFy's Mike Avila talks with the couple to celebrate the occasion as part of his Behind the Panel series...
I am soooooo behind on reading Elfquest, I need to get back to it at some point. It was interesting to hear the Pinis talk about their experiences with Kirby and their approach to their series over the years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 0:08:36 GMT -5
I’ve never read an issue of the series, but the video has me interested. Like I need to pick something else up.  |
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Post by Icctrombone on Mar 27, 2018 4:12:38 GMT -5
Growing up , I had a friend that just loved the series. I was meh, about the artwork and never got hooked.
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Post by Confessor on Mar 27, 2018 4:56:04 GMT -5
I have the first two graphic novel collections of the series from the late 70s, which I love, but I've never got round to reading any further into the series than that. Additional volumes have been on my wants list for ages now, but for whatever reason, I've failed to pick them up. I really should get around to reading more Elfquest.
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Post by shaxper on Mar 27, 2018 6:18:37 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the original series up to the point that it became a mouthpiece for polygamy. I'm liberal in many respects, but that's one lifestyle I just can't be comfortable with. My heroes can be straight, gay, bi, or trans, but not polygamists. It's not that I'm protesting the work; I just can't enjoy it.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 27, 2018 6:48:43 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the original series up to the point that it became a mouthpiece for polygamy. I'm liberal in many respects, but that's one lifestyle I just can't be comfortable with. My heroes can be straight, gay, bi, or trans, but not polygamists. It's not that I'm protesting the work; I just can't enjoy it. I never got that they were encouraging, or even practicing, polygamy... it's more about free and open relationships if anything. I'll admit when the story starts to focus on relationships, rather than the story, things start to bog down, but I never felt like it was meant to espouse a lifestyle, just the elves are different from us in that aspect. I do remember they did imply in a couple cases 3 people that were essentially a family unit, but I don't recall anything that I would call polygamy in the 'sister wives' sense. |
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Post by shaxper on Mar 27, 2018 7:33:30 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the original series up to the point that it became a mouthpiece for polygamy. I'm liberal in many respects, but that's one lifestyle I just can't be comfortable with. My heroes can be straight, gay, bi, or trans, but not polygamists. It's not that I'm protesting the work; I just can't enjoy it. I never got that they were encouraging, or even practicing, polygamy... it's more about free and open relationships if anything. I'll admit when the story starts to focus on relationships, rather than the story, things start to bog down, but I never felt like it was meant to espouse a lifestyle, just the elves are different from us in that aspect. I do remember they did imply in a couple cases 3 people that were essentially a family unit, but I don't recall anything that I would call polygamy in the 'sister wives' sense. I guess I mean more the advocating of explicitly open relationships. You are romantically/sexually involved with multiple partners. |
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Post by brutalis on Mar 27, 2018 7:43:39 GMT -5
Have enjoyed Elfquest from the very beginning through all it's various formats and into this "finale" which truly brought tears to my eyes. These elves are truly family in the sense of my reading them throughout my teen and adult life they were a constant source of entertainment and attention. I have watched the stories advance and the characters grow and develop and change with each adventure they embarked upon. This is one of the few comic book/fantasy series out there (along with Usagi) which always promotes positive thoughts and attitudes while reflecting important life lessons and teachings without the attempt to preach or over simplify and without focusing on darker aspects just for selling points.
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Post by badwolf on Mar 27, 2018 8:49:43 GMT -5
I read the series when Epic reprinted it, and one of the follow-up minis (Siege at Blue Mountain?) And the novelization.
Kind of lost interest after that.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 27, 2018 11:33:21 GMT -5
Kind of surprised they didn't ask about the Red Sonja cosplay, given how big a thing that is now.
I looked at Elfquest a couple of times, in bookstores; but, the art style didn't grab me and the pages I looked at didn't really give me a sense of story. So, I always put it back. It's one I feel I should at least attempt to read; but, there has always been a backlog of other material ahead of it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 12:56:55 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the original series up to the point that it became a mouthpiece for polygamy. I'm liberal in many respects, but that's one lifestyle I just can't be comfortable with. My heroes can be straight, gay, bi, or trans, but not polygamists. It's not that I'm protesting the work; I just can't enjoy it. Hmmm, I guess you enjoy the stories of many of the biblical patriarchs either, most of whom had more than one wife or a wife and concubines, or even some comics like oh say the Atlantis Chronicles (which I am currently rereading) that have such relationships as a plot point and then "mock" anthropological articles examining it in history as part of the back matter. Anthropologically speaking (for real( it was the norm in many more pre-Christian human cultures than monogamy was, and in a world where survival of the tribe/species in question it makes biological sense for there to be more woman pregnant producing offspring than a strict 1:1 ratio of men to woman, so polygamy serves a practical function in that case. In modern times, those practical reasons really don't apply, but Elfquest is not a story set in modern times (or even in a real world). In fact, until you get to a point where patriarchal bloodlines are an issue you really don't see strict monogamy in human cultures, and even then it's only woman who are supposed to have 1 partner, and men were allowed to have multiple partners, and it wasn't until marriage took on some kind of sacramental nature (with the rise of Christianity in the west and the domination of western values through conquest and colonization) that the strict monogamy we know today became anything resembling a cultural norm. I just find it curious that's where you draw the line in the sand. On another note, anyone wanting to read the original ques form Elfquest, the Pinis have made it available for free on their website here as a digital edition. -M |
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Post by urrutiap on Mar 27, 2018 14:42:12 GMT -5
Careful with the whole polygamy thing, there's alot of hardcore Elfquest fans that will gang up on you even Wendy.
I just half hour ago tried to voice my opinion about the polygamy thing slowing down the main fantasy adventure story in Elfquest.
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Post by urrutiap on Mar 27, 2018 14:43:11 GMT -5
Freaking Wendy called me a "troll" for crying out loud on the Elfquest Facebook
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Post by shaxper on Mar 27, 2018 15:04:55 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the original series up to the point that it became a mouthpiece for polygamy. I'm liberal in many respects, but that's one lifestyle I just can't be comfortable with. My heroes can be straight, gay, bi, or trans, but not polygamists. It's not that I'm protesting the work; I just can't enjoy it. Hmmm, I guess you enjoy the stories of many of the biblical patriarchs either, most of whom had more than one wife or a wife and concubines, If you meant to say "don't enjoy," then yes. I get the sense you're being sarcastic with me, but I'm not even aware of what this is, so yes. Debatable. There's also a survival function in monogamy, but I have no intention of getting into this with you, as it really isn't the point here. Regardless of the time period of the piece, we are invited to relate to these characters who, in all other respects beyond elven features, either resemble us or resemble qualities we aspire to. I neither practice polygamy, aspire to practice polygamy, nor am comfortable with the idea of polygamy. Thus, I am distanced. Quite simple, really. Everyone has their line. This is mine. Anytime anyone has ever had an issue with (for example) gay marriage, my response has been "How does this affect you? And why is this your business if it doesn't?" But the advocating of polygamy is, by its nature, a threat to practitioners of monogamy. Everyone is free to do as they please, but I'd be devastated if I was in a committed relationship with someone who one day asked me if we could bring a third person in. So that's my line. I'm threatened by and made uncomfortable by it. I have no desire to protest or silence Elfquest, but the values it espouses make me uncomfortable, and I believe I have a right to that feeling. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2018 15:16:31 GMT -5
On another note, anyone wanting to read the original ques form Elfquest, the Pinis have made it available for free on their website here as a digital edition. -M Thanks for the link. I read Issue #1 and while I liked it, I'm convinced I have too much in my "to-read" pile at the moment to continue. It's something I would very much like to revisit though. |
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