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Post by aquagoat on May 24, 2018 15:57:22 GMT -5
My spoiler-free thoughts.... - If you're familiar with Star Wars, it's exactly how you'd expect a Han Solo 'origin' movie to be. It's like a checklist. - A bit like Revenge of the Sith, it crams a lot of obligatory moments into too short a time frame. But that is the nature of prequels I suppose. - The most interesting thing is that you can see how it's been reshot. There are a lot of moments which were clearly written to be comedic, yet bizarrely played straight. One scene with Lando, Lando's droid, and Chewbacca should be comic gold, and yet it's done as if it's high drama. You'll know it when you see it. Also Paul Bettany's character was obviously written to be comedic, yet he plays it all with menace. - HUGE action. And a lot of it. The monorail sequence is Indiana Jones-worthy. - The actors struggle to make any impact under the noise, spectacle and constant action. Lando didn't really need to be here, amusing as Donald Glover is. - Alden Ehrenreich makes a good Han. He's different from Harrison's Ford's laconic, selfish scoundrel from the original movie, but then this is supposed to be a younger, naive, optimistic Han. - The movie knows you know what to expect from it, and tries to outwit you, but in the end it it's a very generic Hollywood story and you'll see all the twists a mile away. - There is one amazing treat for Star Wars fans...avoid spoilers, that's all I'll say. 'Surely it can't be.....they wouldn't....' - but they did  Overall, it's a solid movie, but it's essentially a list of expected boxes being ticked amidst an onslaught of action set-pieces, with little elbow-room for the actors. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 25, 2018 18:45:31 GMT -5
I just got back from Solo and I thought it was a pretty fun film, not as good as Rogue One but definitely better than the sequels.
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Post by aquagoat on May 26, 2018 9:34:44 GMT -5
Were you glad to see you-know-who turn up? Or is it just pandering to fans?
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Post by thwhtguardian on May 26, 2018 19:42:34 GMT -5
Were you glad to see you-know-who turn up? Or is it just pandering to fans? He was hands down the best part of the prequels, and I loved how his role has evolved since then so I was pumped to see him turn up again. More casual viewers may be a bit lost but I think they'll get over it quick. |
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Post by codystarbuck on May 28, 2018 11:29:32 GMT -5
Watched it; entertaining and loud. Pretty much threw out most of the bits about Hans past that were "canon." Didn't really matter, though.
It's an "okay" heist film, a decent actioner; not particularly much of a character study,. The actors were good and weren't saddled with a lot of junk to spout. The Han and Lando stuff stood out, as they had a nice chemistry there. The romantic angle didn't do much for me; not particularly strong, but not terrible. Just kind of there. The big reveal? Meh.... Don't really feel one way or another about.
So, far, I would say these side tales are far better than the main films; but, it's not like the bar was set too high on that. I prefer something like this, though, that isn't so tightly woven into continuity. It's more like the comics, where they could be more imaginative with the story and characters. Since books don't count and Lucas' previous interviews, prior to Empire, are also not gospel, they had more room to play. And, Ron did have to stick baby brother into the thing. I don't mind, much, as I think Clint is a decent actor and has always held up his part in Ron's films; but, it is a cliche.
Kind of weird seeing Paul Bettany playing psychotic, after just recently seeing him in the Avengers movie. Still, my first encounter with him he was playing an idiot, pox-ridden Prince of Orange, in Sharpe's Waterloo.
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 3, 2018 4:58:23 GMT -5
It looks like Solo has been a disappointment at the box office - it's made less money in ten days of release than Rogue One made in it's opening weekend.
A lot of things went against Solo. It was a perfect storm really. The last Star Wars movie only came out six months beforehand, and many fans were furious at Disney for The Last Jedi. The film had to be largely re-shot as the original directors made in more of a comedy. And finally, entertaining as the movie is, it's perhaps too generic - it's just two more hours of Star Wars, and it's non-essential stuff really. How Han met Chewie and Lando is not as interesting or vital as galactic war and young people becoming Jedi.
Hopefully Disney will learn from this. A new Star Was film every year is a bad idea.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 3, 2018 6:37:33 GMT -5
It looks like Solo has been a disappointment at the box office - it's made less money in ten days of release than Rogue One made in it's opening weekend. A lot of things went against Solo. It was a perfect storm really. The last Star Wars movie only came out six months beforehand, and many fans were furious at Disney for The Last Jedi. The film had to be largely re-shot as the original directors made in more of a comedy. And finally, entertaining as the movie is, it's perhaps too generic - it's just two more hours of Star Wars, and it's non-essential stuff really. How Han met Chewie and Lando is not as interesting or vital as galactic war and young people becoming Jedi. Hopefully Disney will learn from this. A new Star Was film every year is a bad idea. I don't think it's a new movie every year that's the problem... if they were good, engaging movies, that would be fine. I think people are done with origin stories. How many properties make and remake them? They just don't make for a good dramatic experience... you already know the ending, and some of the details, so there's no tension. Plus, many people spend more time looking for error or 'retcons' than enjoying the film, which doesn't lead to great word of mouth advertising. |
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 3, 2018 12:18:03 GMT -5
many people spend more time looking for error or 'retcons' than enjoying the film, which doesn't lead to great word of mouth advertising. I think that's only true with some particularly anal fans, which a small part of the audience. |
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 3, 2018 12:23:14 GMT -5
I don't think it's a new movie every year that's the problem... if they were good, engaging movies, that would be fine. But people don't know if it's a good movie before they see it. They only know if they're bored with Star Wars or not. And with four Star Wars films in just over two and a half years, it's hardly surprising. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jun 4, 2018 10:26:32 GMT -5
I don't think it's a new movie every year that's the problem... if they were good, engaging movies, that would be fine. But people don't know if it's a good movie before they see it. They only know if they're bored with Star Wars or not. And with four Star Wars films in just over two and a half years, it's hardly surprising. I don't think it's boredom with Star Wars, it seems to me that it's just a poor release. Because of the troubled production trailers were late in coming so the build up wasn't there and then it was released right after Infinity War and Deadpool 2 which all share the same audience. Most people only have so many entertainment dollars to spend so asking them to go out to the movies three times in three weeks means you're going to see lesser returns, especially as a stand alone film Solo doesn't have the "importance" of the main films. |
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Post by Warmonger on Jun 5, 2018 8:19:37 GMT -5
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Post by String on Jun 9, 2018 11:16:24 GMT -5
But people don't know if it's a good movie before they see it. They only know if they're bored with Star Wars or not. And with four Star Wars films in just over two and a half years, it's hardly surprising. I don't think it's boredom with Star Wars, it seems to me that it's just a poor release. Because of the troubled production trailers were late in coming so the build up wasn't there and then it was released right after Infinity War and Deadpool 2 which all share the same audience. Most people only have so many entertainment dollars to spend so asking them to go out to the movies three times in three weeks means you're going to see lesser returns, especially as a stand alone film Solo doesn't have the "importance" of the main films. Well, for me, part of it is burnout. Solo, Episode 9, then what, a Boba Fett film then an Obi-Wan film? The Mouse seems intent on running the franchise into the ground through overexposure. I seem to recall when the release of a SW film was magical because we did have to wait 2-3 years between each release. As such, I'm ambivalent towards seeing this in the theater. Production problems aside, it's still hard for me for put aside 20+ years of EU novels in favor of material that I don't consider to be even half as good as what I've been reading for years. (For example, I've read of one possible spoiler regarding the origin of Han's name given in this film that, if accurate, seems imminently cringe-worthy to me). |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 9, 2018 18:43:45 GMT -5
It's clearly fatigue from too many movies. That's why the Marvel movies keep tanking. Oh...wait...they don't.
Trying to extrapolate what is happening with mass media from a figurative handful of nerds on the interwebs is futile. However, you have a film that has okay reviews doing okay box office. Why...how shocking. It's almost as if there could be a correlation.
As to people being invested in the EU and being put off because it's being ignored...again...don't try to extrapolate mass media from what a few nerds have to say on the interwebs. Are Star Wars novels popular. Yeah. But the movie ticket sales of every person who buys a given Star Wars novel wouldn't pay for 5 minutes of special effects in a Star Wars movie.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 10, 2018 20:37:49 GMT -5
And I just got back. I’m pretty perplexed at what the nerds problem is...other than the fact that fans generally are awful.
Super fun movie. Good action. Actors all seemed to be having fun. It was a pretty long movie that never drug. Was it great cinema? No. But it was the most fun I’ve had watching a Star Wars movie since Empire.
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Post by aquagoat on Jun 11, 2018 14:09:56 GMT -5
Trying to extrapolate what is happening with mass media from a figurative handful of nerds on the interwebs is futile. <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="6.0800000000000125" style="position: absolute; width: 22.660000000000082px; height: 6.0800000000000125px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78339328" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="6.0800000000000125" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 6.08px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1074px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_63777953" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="6.0800000000000125" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 6.08px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 184px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_78840733" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.660000000000082" height="6.0800000000000125" style="position: absolute; width: 22.66px; height: 6.08px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1074px; top: 184px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_99818969" scrolling="no"></iframe>
The irony of a someone on a comicbook forum telling people not to listen to nerds... |
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