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Post by chaykinstevens on Sept 7, 2018 17:09:27 GMT -5
Illyana’s subway car says “X-Men Tess” on both the inside and the outside. I have no idea what this means. Apparently there was a New York graffiti crew called X-Men, one of whom went by the name Tess. link
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Post by rberman on Sept 8, 2018 7:37:24 GMT -5
#38: “Aftermath” (April 1986)
Theme and Focus Character: Dead on the inside The Story: It’s brief. The New Mutants were resurrected by the Beyonder, but they are PTSD-sapped shells of their former selves, going through the motions of life. They all keep having the same dream of dying every night, and Magneto has it right along with them. He feels helpless and frustrated at his inability to spark vigor within them. When Emma Frost offers to take the students off his hands and work with them telepathically, he rejects her at first but then finally accepts when Doug’s parents come to complain about the change in their son. Only Dani refuses. We know what the kids do not: Emma was having Empath manipulate everyone’s emotions to make the situation worse. Tom Corsi and Sharon Friedlander discover him in the woods, and he consumes them with sexual desire for each other to keep them busy. My Two Cents: The five page opening nightmare sequence is suitably disturbing, with the kids battling first the Sentinels and then the Hellions before changing bizarrely into their PJs (Rahne is wearing pajamas, a robe, and slippers under her X-suit, while Doug and Warlock have switched heads, and Dani wears her buckskin boots to bed), and climbing into their graves. Note that they call each other by their codenames, not their birth names, which they never do around the mansion. Two details in particular from this dream. First, the kids know somehow about Empath’s ambitions to control or replace Emma Frost. I don’t know how that would be, based on their previous brief encounters. Second, When Dani summons a distracting image of Tarot’s true love, it’s one of the New Mutants. This fits with a scene back in New Mutants #17 in which Tarot was fiddling with her deck of tarot cards and, while thinking of the New Mutants, drew the card “The Lovers.” We don’t get to see who it is, and Claremont never followed up this plot thread, but my money is on Roberto. Stevie Hunter makes a return appearance after long absence. Rahne wearing a knee-length skirt during dance is a realistic detail. By far the weirdest scene is a one page sequence in which, while Dani is grooming Brightwind in the barn, she encounters a frog who is a transmogrified version of Thor, God of Thunder. The weird part is not that Thor is a frog. The weird part is that the Thor-frog would be way up in Salem Center, hanging out in Xavier’s barn to cheer up Dani. He’s supposed to be down in Central Park playing out “Watership Down” with sewer animals. How long would it take a frog to hop that far? Also, Secret Wars II showed Thor no longer in frog form before this issue occurred, so it’s just an oops. Claremont is having fun putting Magneto in scenes where he has to learn not to be a megalomaniac, like this conversation with his supposed peer, the principal of the local public high school. She wants to impress the supposed headmaster of the super-rich, super-exclusive prep school outside of town, while he just wants to survive the conversation without getting his cover blown. Meanwhile in X-Men (#204): Nightcrawler rescues an Eastern European princess from Arcade. The other X-Men are helping to clean up San Francisco after the Beyonder’s departure, so this would explain why they’re not helping Magneto deal with the New Mutants back in New York. However… Meanwhile in Alpha Flight (#33): Heather Hudson comes to the X-Mansion to get combat training from her old friend Wolverine, and the two of them are attacked by Lady Deathstrike. The X-Men are home in Westchester, not in San Francisco as depicted in X-Men and New Mutants. Meanwhile in X-Factor (#3): Hank loses his blue fur as an unwilling participant in an experiment to heal a disabled mutant.
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Post by badwolf on Sept 8, 2018 16:37:32 GMT -5
Meanwhile in X-Men (#204): Nightcrawler rescues an Eastern European princess from Arcade. The other X-Men are helping to clean up San Francisco after the Beyonder’s departure, so this would explain why they’re not helping Magneto deal with the New Mutants back in New York. However… This issue was one of the occasional bright spots in the increasingly gloomy and depressing series. June Brigman's art was a sight for sore eyes. The ending made me think this princess' story was going to be continued, but I don't think it was ever followed up.
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Post by rberman on Sept 8, 2018 16:49:03 GMT -5
Meanwhile in X-Men (#204): Nightcrawler rescues an Eastern European princess from Arcade. The other X-Men are helping to clean up San Francisco after the Beyonder’s departure, so this would explain why they’re not helping Magneto deal with the New Mutants back in New York. However… This issue was one of the occasional bright spots in the increasingly gloomy and depressing series. June Brigman's art was a sight for sore eyes. The ending made me think this princess' story was going to be continued, but I don't think it was ever followed up. Yeah, it seemed like the beginning of a story, but instead it was the end of one. Nightcrawler will be heading to England for Excalibur in the near future. Between these Beyonder-addled deaths and the Mutant Massacre, Claremont was into some grimdark stuff. Not enough wacky leprachauns! I wonder what was going on in his personal life.
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Post by rberman on Sept 9, 2018 7:10:38 GMT -5
#39: “Pawns of the White Queen” (May 1986)
Theme and Focus Character: Sleepwalking The Story: Xavier’s squad have now joined the Hellions, sort of fulfilling the prophecy that Dani and Illyana saw in their trip to the future back in issue #17. They still act dazed. When Empath sneaks into the girls’ locker room to turn them into his emotional slaves, there’s no emotion within them to be manipulated; his power just bounces off them. Emma performs telepathic surgery to repair the ravaged psyches of the New Mutants – not out of compassion, but in hopes that they can be of use to her in the future. Back at the Xavier Schooi, Magneto just sits in the office and drinks and broods. Dani has snapped out of her death/resurrection funk by herself. She berates Magneto’s impotent mentoring, climbs on Brightwind, and flies off to finally visit her parents at their ranch in Colorado. Later, Magneto discovers that Tom Corsi and Sharon Friedlander’s Empath-induced lust has led the two of them to an S&M club experience that did not turn out at all well. Emma, sensing Magneto’s imminent arrival, calls the cops to protect her school from this notorious supervillain. My Two Cents: Most of the Hellions are portrayed as decent kids. Catseye chases Empath out of the locker room and plays den mother to Rahne, and even his usual ally Roulette tosses a bad luck disc at him. James Proudstar is a mature and caring team leader. Keith Pollard and Dell Barras provide pencils and inks respectively. New Mutants is starting to feel like an artistic hot potato since Sienkiewicz’ departure. Still, I can’t argue with the results; a flashback to happier training sessions in the Danger Room looks pretty cool. The Xavier School appears to have an indoor pool for Magneto to use. When did that happen? Magneto is enraged but also exhilarated to find an actual foe against whom he can do what he’s good at, which is to attack people. He was a lot smarter when he was a villain, even though he was beaten regularly. Attacking a civilian prep school is sure to draw a heroic response whether Emma clues in the cops or not. She knows she can just sit back and let the forces of law protect her. Where is Rahne’s guardian Moira during all this tumult? Surely Rahne couldn’t be transferred to another school without her consent, and surely Moira would not consent. But then again, Xavier has entrusted the kids to Magneto, whom Moira has just as little reason to trust. Meanwhile in Alpha Flight (#34): Wolverine and Heather Hudson vs Lady Deathstrike and samurai. Meanwhile in X-Men (#205): Lady Deathstrike gets cyborg upgrades from Spiral and comes back for one more go at Wolverine. Art by Barry Windsor-Smith. Meanwhile in X-Factor (#4): After an adventure with a terrified human posing as a mutant, X-Factor start to realize that mutants pretending to be mutant hunters are not really helping the mutant cause. Ya think? Jean Grey regrets pushing her trainee Artie Maddicks too hard.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Sept 9, 2018 7:52:23 GMT -5
Is it known at which point Sienkiewicz broke his hand? I didn't think he seemed at his best in the issues he inked but didn't pencil.
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Post by rberman on Sept 10, 2018 6:52:17 GMT -5
Is it known at which point Sienkiewicz broke his hand? I didn't think he seemed at his best in the issues he inked but didn't pencil. I can't find any details on it. Just looking at the results, it seems to me that his faces became cruder during the Cloak and Dagger arc, so I nominate that as the period he was nursing a broken hand.
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Post by rberman on Sept 10, 2018 7:05:17 GMT -5
#40: “Avengers Assemble!” (June 1986)
Theme and Focus Character: Magneto vs the Avengers The Story: The police forward Emma Frost’s report that Magneto plans to attack students at the Massachusetts Academy. The Avengers spring into action and intercept Lockheed and Magneto en route to Massachussets. The battle occupies most of this issue, with the Avengers puzzled by how restrained and talkative Magneto is now, even compared to their interactions with him during the Secret Wars. Learning of Magneto’s presence in the woods nearby, Illyana teleports (perfectly I might add) to assist him, first alone and then with the rest of the New Mutants, teleporting him back to the Massachussets Academy. Illyana saves the day again! Despite Emma Frost’s psychic surgery on the New Mutants, the New Mutants are still emotionally imbalanced. Remember how Magneto was coming here to get retribution on Empath and Emma Frost for screwing with his head? Apparently seeing the kids in their current state made him rethink this plan off-panel, because when we next see him, he’s collaborating with Emma to help the kids recover further. Emma is said to provide the telepathic expertise, and Magneto’s supposed contribution is the human touch, which does not sound at all like him, but whatever. Emma is also surprisingly gracious about letting the New Mutants depart with Magneto. My Two Cents: One important step in rehabilitating Magneto into a hero was dialing back his power so that he can lose to foes he’s beaten before. Claremont accomplished this in three ways. First, by declaring him injured from falling all the way from Asteroid M to the ocean, where he was dredged out by Lee Forrester. Second, by Empath messing with his head more recently. Third, by acquiring a sense of compassion that prevents him from going all-out against his assailants. We see in this issue for instance that his concern for Warlock’s well-being takes precedence for his own danger from the Avengers. John Byrne and Chris Claremont, characteristically, were of different minds about the process by which Magneto became a hero: Emma comes off surprisingly well in this issue as well, a far cry from Sebastian Shaw's murderous flunkie in the Dark Phoenix story and the gaslighting wicked stepmother of the Firestar mini-series. Do I believe that Magneto’s power can break Hercules’ bear hug? No, I do not. But Hercules costume has plenty of metal bling, so throwing him a mile away shouldn’t have been a problem. Not smart, Magneto! And eventually he does just that, albeit with “iron-laced ore” from the rocks in the ground. Fun fact: The Massachusetts academy has 1,000 students. That’s a big boarding school! I hope it’s not too big, because after Illyana steals Captain America’s shield and returns to her friends in the Academy cafeteria, the whole team must have run all the way to the Hellfire Club’s underground base and changed into their Hellion suits before coming back to assist Magneto in the battle. The artistic musical chairs continue, but Jackson Guice does a great job, so I won’t complain. He sticks around for a while, too. Meanwhile in X-Men (#206): The X-Men are still in California (not back in New York as seen in Alpha Flight #33, which preceded the previous issue of X-Men) where they have an inconclusive battle with the Freedom Force. Meanwhile in X-Factor (#5): When X-Factor tries to help a heroin-addicted mutant, the Alliance of Evil intervenes and takes him to their master, Apocalypse. (His first appearance as Apocalypse, though he was retconned to be a guy in a fez in the 1985 Living Monolith graphic novel also.)
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Post by badwolf on Sept 10, 2018 11:19:04 GMT -5
John Byrne and Chris Claremont, characteristically, were of different minds about the process by which Magneto became a hero: I have to say I side with Chris on this one. While it can be hard to reconcile the early Magneto with what he became later, I find it impossible to see Doom ("noble" as he might be) as reformed. As for his use of Doom in X-Men, there's just that bit where Arcade strikes a match on his armor, and while I was amused by Byrne's "response" in FF, it's just a one-panel gag and not to be taken too seriously, IMO. I don't think anything else he did in that story was out of character.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 11:59:08 GMT -5
What the reasons behind these costumes -- I just wanted to know!
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Post by rberman on Sept 10, 2018 12:15:34 GMT -5
What the reasons behind these costumes -- I just wanted to know! These are the costumes for the Hellions, Emma Frost's students. As far as I know, the costume was first seen when Emma forced Kitty Pryde to wear one in New Mutants #15: Then in issue #17, Illyana and Dani visited an alternate future in which the New Mutants had joined the Hellions: This did sort of come to pass, except that Illyana and Doug were there too, and Kitty and Roberto were not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 12:18:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanations and I did not know that! ... Makes perfectly sense to me ^^^.
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Post by rberman on Sept 11, 2018 6:41:51 GMT -5
#41: “Way of the Warrior” (July 1986)
Theme and Focus Character: Dani vs Death The Story: Dani returns to her parents’ ranch in Colorado, cold and saddlesore from riding her Pegasus Brightwind all the way from New York. A refreshing dash of realism! But her parents are busy with damage control regarding a sudden blizzard, so they send her to the mall. Pat Roberts, Dani's former foster brother and now a local tough, calls her “papoose” and “squaw” and steals her new dress. She used to live with his family after her parents disappeared, but she accidentally humiliated him with her mutant power in front of his family. So now he threatens to murder her. She gets a premonition that he’s going to die, but he rebuffs her warning. Later, he goes drinking and driving, and she rescues him from his wrecked pickup truck, dragging him to a cave to ride out the blizzard. She loses control of her powers and conjures visions of him both attacking her and marrying her. Dani defeats a gunslinging manifestation of Death to keep Pat alive, then reconciles with a psychic image of Pat which may just reflect his heart’s desire, or hers, or both. But he’s actually in a diabetic coma, and it’s more than a day before she’s able to get him out of the blizzard and to the hospital, where he dies. She has a tough conversation with Death, manifested in the form of an Indian crone, then goes home to commiserate with her parents. My Two Cents: Claremont, what are you doing??? I mean, the story of Dani and Pat is a good story that explores Dani's valkyrie nature. But it’s not the first story that needs to be told about Dani’s long-overdue visit with her parents. Is there really nothing to say about the three of them together? How their absence affected her? The catching up they have to do concerning her life as a mutant, a warrior, a Valkyrie, a recently murdered-and-resurrected thrall of the Beyonder? It’s not like we’re going to get a Dani solo issue again soon to deal with these more important elements of her life. Instead, the heart of this issue is Dani’s Valkyrie nature, explored through a conflict with her former friend Pat. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of back-plot between them which we are told rather than shown. It’s not like Claremont to cram everything in together like this. Now I’m wishing that we’d had a “Moonstar” miniseries to deal with all of this. Here, her parents just sort of take everything without blinking. Oh, you've got a pegasus? Ok, dear. Just park him in the stable. The moral heart of this story deals with terminal illness. As a Valkyrie, Dani is literally in a position to fight or aid Death at every turn. Except where the Beyonder was concerned, apparently. But it's not always a good idea to cheat death. There are worse things than dying. Dani finally gives us a succinct yet complete summary of her childhood, though we still don’t know how her father and Xavier became blood-brothers. After her parents’ death, she went to live with Pat Roberts and his parents, until the mirage incident described below caused her to run away and live in the wilderness. “I usually sleep in my clothes” sounds like something Dani would do, but then there’s the time we already saw in issue #23 that she didn’t. Nature Girl Dani finally takes a shower and decides that tending her mane of hair is preferable to cutting it. But when she gets to the mall, suddenly she’s a girly girl, fascinated by fashion and buying a mini-skirt so short that it exposes her underwear. Colorado is having some freakish weather. There’s no snow at all when Dani first arrives, but then she gets to her parents’ ranch, there’s a blizzard. Then when she goes to the mall, no snow. Meanwhile in X-Men (#207): Rachel and Logan share a series of dreams in which he kills her. When Rachel infiltrates the Hellfire Club to kill Selene, it looks like the dreams may come true, as Logan is prepared to kill Rachel to prove that X-Men don’t kill. Huh? Meanwhile in X-Factor (#6): Louise Simonson is now writing instead of Bob Layton. X-Factor attempt to rescue Mike the junkie mutant and his wife Susan from Apocalypse and his Alliance of Evil. Mike and Susan die in the fight. Nice try though!
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Post by rberman on Sept 13, 2018 7:49:28 GMT -5
#42: “New Song for Old” (August 1986)
Theme and Focus Character: Sam can’t go home again. The Story: On the bus back to Cumberland, Kentucky, Sam has a nightmare about his family rejecting him over his relationship with his rock star girlfriend Lila Cheney. After visiting his father’s grave and catching up with his mother about how his siblings are doing, Sam decides he’s going to drop out of school and come home to lead his family, but his younger brother Josh doesn’t appreciate his meddling, and his mother predicts his wanderlust will leave him unhappy at home. Sam’s meet-up with Lila in Charlotte goes sour when she boasts about acquiring a priceless crystal statuette to give his mother. He accuses her of theft, she gets defensive but won’t deny it, the crystal breaks up, and so do they. (We’ll later learn that Lila is a master carver who mined the crystal from the ground herself and then made the statue herself, which seems pretty Mary Sue.) Lila goes flying in a small aircraft with Alison Blaire (still her back-up singer as seen in issue #29) and guitarist Conal Duran. When the plane crashes in a storm, Sam flies with his brother Josh on a rescue mission. Josh sings a lovely song that provides enough noise for Alison to use her light power to laser a hole in the plane wreckage. (In case you’re wondering, the actual fatality rate for “plane crashes in the woods” is about 100%.) Sam apologizes to Lila for assuming she had stolen the crystal. Lila shows up for supper in full punk regalia as a test. Sam pretends not to be appalled, and she changes into more traditional attire so as not to humiliate Sam in front of his mother. This unequal relationship does not seem to have a future. My Two Cents: This must have been an inventory story commissioned after the Farouk arc (since Dazzler is with Lila). The previous issue claimed that it would be followed by a story called “Getting Even,” which is actually the title of #44, not #43. This issue has no super-villain (which is great) and two themes. One is Sam’s sense of familial obligation butting up against his own personal development. I would have liked to see this play out over several issues rather than being one-and-done. Sam and Dani have both gone home and found that they’re just in the way; their families have adapted to their absence, and their presence is more a burden (though tolerable, because family) than a welcome help. But Sam’s story gives us the familial interactions that Dani’s story denied us. The other theme is Sam’s mismatched relationship with the urbane and urban criminal Lila Cheney. He’s not wrong to wonder where she got a work of art she says is priceless, though his inquiry was more an accusation. Josh Guthrie has a musical gift but little opportunity to be caught in the act of being awesome with it. You’d think that saving a famous musician like Lila Cheney would open doors for him. But no. You’d also think that when he’s revealed to be a mutant like his brother Sam, his mutation would have something to do with music. But no. Instead, he turns into a human bird, with hollow bones and wings, as well as a healing factor like Logan. I guess birds do sing, though. How far can Sam fly? Back in issue #23, he struggled to carry Dani from Westchester to Manhattan, though he somehow carried both Dani and Rahne home from Manhattan. Here, he takes the bus from New York to Kentucky, presumably because that’s too far for him to fly. But then he flies from Kentucky to Charlotte, South Carolina under his own steam. When Lila is lounging in bed on her tour bus, she wears one of her own concert T-shirts. Musicians don’t typically wear their own merchandise like that. Kyle Baker does a nice job finishing Jackson Guice’s breakdowns. We’re a long way from Sienkiewicz’ exaggerated style but still nowhere near Marvel’s Bronze Age house style. But can we talk for a minute about the bus bench depicted in the first panel below? A bus like that has four seats divided by a center aisle, not benches the whole width of the bus. How do people get in and out? Meanwhile in X-Men (#208): Rachel, severely wounded by Logan, is hunted by both the X-Men and the Hellfire Club. The two groups end up fighting each other, and she slips away. Then Nimrod arrives and announces his plan to exterminate both groups. Meanwhile in X-Factor (#7): News media finally begin to realize that X-Factor and X-Terminators are the same group in two different costumes. Duhhh! Dumbest plot ever. Three Morlocks have to be dissuaded from attacking their supposed mutant enemies X-Factor. Jean realizes Scott is married to someone named “Maddie.”
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Post by rberman on Sept 14, 2018 7:20:18 GMT -5
#43: “Getting Even” (September 1986)
Theme and Focus Character: Nightmare on Empath Street The Story: Roberto returns from his trip to Brazil and learns about the trouble Empath has been causing. In a secret attic palaver, he goads his friends into doing something about it. Illyana kidnaps Empath. The kids terrorize him for a while but eventually lose their stomach for torture. The Hellions eventually track the New Mutants down and reclaim Empath, who appears to have gained nothing in the experience except a hunger for vengeance. Thunderbird punches Empath in the face, which will obviously not teach him a lesson. My Two Cents: The first two “Nightmare on Elm Street” films had been released in 1984 and 1985, and this issue seems to lean pretty heavily into images from those films. The overall point is for the New Mutants to dabble in vengeance and find it not as satisfying as they’d imagine. Except for Illyana, as you might expect. Notably, Rahne is absent, presumably having returned to Moira on Muir Island as discussed last issue. There’s no way she would have gone along with this plan; even Xi’an’s and Sam’s participation seems dubious. Beyond that nugget of a story idea, I totally do not understand what Claremont is doing with these characters at this point. Early issues were filled with obvious seeds for future storylines. But all we're getting the last few issues is a mixed bag of tying up loose ends and missed obvious opportunities: • We are skipping what ought to be all the interesting story beats: Roberto goes back to Rio to spend time with his archeologist mother, at a time when his father has joined the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club. How do she and he feel about all this, and about his new life with the mutants? • Roberto and his mom went to Nova Roma and hung out with Amara’s dad? Huh?? Last we saw, Nova Roma was on the brink of revolution. It’s deep in the Amazon jungle and forbidden to outsiders. And Amara’s dad was not a nice guy, either. I think this was just a throwaway line of dialogue to tell new readers that Amara was from Nova Roma, but introducing it in this way raises a lot of unnecessary questions best forgotten. • Tom Corsi was a policeman. Now he’s working as a stable hand. Seems like a big step down. A Mohawk is a pretty high-maintenance hairstyle. Has he decided to keep shaving it every couple of days? • Why is Amara hanging around the attic in her lava form? Isn’t that, you know, incredibly hot? But she’s just three feet from three of her team-mates, and sitting on top of a cardboard box to boot. • The majority of Empath’s torture takes place not in Limbo (which would at least make sense) but in some abandoned gothic mansion in Vermont, where they can be found (but not too quickly) by the Hellions. Its existence, and the kids’ knowledge of and access to it, seems awfully convenient. The Hellfire Club’s mutant detector was previously called “Multivac” in homage to an Isaac Asimov computer, but now it is “Cyberiad.” Steve Purcell and While Portacio guest on art, only a few issues into Jackson Guice’s run as regular penciler. Meanwhile in X-Men (#209): The X-Men and Hellfire Club join forces to fight Nimrod. Spiral offers Rachel (still severely wounded by Logan) the opportunity to be remade in her Body Shop. Meanwhile in X-Factor Annual #1: The team fights Crimson Dynamo and Doppelganger in the USSR. Meanwhile in X-Factor (#8): Freedom Force attempts to capture the X-Factor trainee Rusty. Meanwhile in Web of Spider-Man Annual #2: Warlock goes to Manhattan to get first-hand experience with the world beyond the Xavier school. Two scientists take advantage of him, and he requires rescue by Spider-Man. Story is by Ann Nocenti and art by Arthur Adams, and those who have been following my New Mutants and Supplemental X-Men Stories threads will be unsurprised that when Lockheed goes to a toy store, (1) Ann Nocenti is shopping there, and (2) Gumby is on the shelf.
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