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Post by rberman on Aug 12, 2018 22:52:06 GMT -5
Supplemental X-Men Series, Issue by Issue
As Star Wars (and its semi-clone Micronauts) faded in the mid-1980s, Marvel looked more and more to X-Men spin-offs to boost sales and revenue. First came the Wolverine mini-series in 1982, followed by a continuing Wolverine series. Many others ensued, spotlighting various characters with either back story or continuing adventures or both. Some series were written by long-term X-men writer Chris Claremont, and some not. Since I am currently reviewing New Mutants, it seemed appropriate to cover some of these other related series for purposes of cross-reference. I won’t generally cover issues in the main X-Men series, except that the Magik series is tied so integrally with one X-Men issue that I will, in that case. Illyana does the Limbo (The Darkchylde Saga)X-Men #160 (introduces Magik, Dec 1982) Magik: Storm and Illyana: #1; #2; #3; #4 (winter 1983-4) New Mutants #14 (April 1984) linked to the review in the New Mutants thread X-Terminators #1-4New Mutants #71, 72, 73 GladiatorsMarvel Graphic Novel #12: Dazzler the Movie (Oct 1984) Beauty and the Beast: #1; #2; #3; #4 (winter 1984-5) Mojo RisingLongshot: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6 (1985-6) New Mutants Annual #2; X-Men Annual #10 (1986) (In the New Mutants Thread) Norse GodsX-Men/Alpha Flight #1, #2 (Winter 1985-6) New Mutants Special Edition #1 (in the New Mutants Thread) X-Men Annual #9 (in the New Mutants Thread) What If... the X-Men Stayed in Asgard? #12 (1990, in another thread) Sky PiratesX-Men #153 “Kitty’s Fairy Tale” (May 1982) Nightcrawler #1, #2, #3, #4 (Winter 1985-6) Mean TeacherFirestar #1, #2, #3, #4 (Spring 1986) Marvel Comics Presents #82-87 (1991) Parental Expectations
Iceman #1, #2, #3, #4 (Winter 1984-5) Self-Doubt
Claremont vs Byrne Fantastic Four versus X-Men #1, #2, #3, #4 (1987) Outcast Mutants Sitting Around TalkingFallen Angels #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8 (1987) Ninja Time!Wolverine #1, #2, #3, #4 (1982) X-Men #172, #173, #174 (1983) Kitty Pryde and Wolverine #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6 (1984-5) Kitty Pryde: Shadow and Flame #1, #2, #3, #4, #5 (2005) Kitty Goes to College and TherapyX-Men Unlimited #36 (2002)Mekanix #1-6 (2002-3) PhoenixEndsong #1-5 (2005) Warsong #1-5 (2006-7) Cloak and DaggerHavok and Wolverine: Meltdown #1-4 (1988-9) X-ClubX-Men: Blind Science (2010) X-Club #1-5: We Do Science! (2012)
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Post by rberman on Aug 12, 2018 22:56:13 GMT -5
X-Men #160 “Chutes and Ladders” (December 1982)
Creative Team: Written by Chris Claremont. Pencils by Brent Anderson. Inks by Bob Wiacek. Theme: Kidnapped by Satan The Story: The X-Men are living in the Bermuda triangle on the island of R’lyeh from H.P. Lovecraft’s Cthulhu horror stories of the early 20th century. (It’s not called R’lyeh officially, but it obviously is, what with all the giant statuary of squid-headed aliens.) Six year old Illyana Rasputin follows a creepy voice down a darkened hall, and she disappears. Kitty Pryde follows her, with the same result. One of Storm’s many public showers is interrupted by Peter, who can’t find either Illyana or Kitty. Everybody ends up heading down the darkened corridor, and just as with Kitty, discs of light beneath their feet teleport them to separate places in another dimension, Limbo. It’s a creepy maze of heavily carved walls, with the corpses of alternate-universe versions of Wolverine and Colossus decorating various parts. We first catch up in Limbo with Kitty. She meets a creep version of Kurt who feels her up and then chases her into the throne room of Belasco, Lord of Limbo, who imprisons her in crystal and then tortures her, magically removing her skeleton from her body to leer back at her. Storm and Colossus arrive in Limbo together at first, but he quickly vanishes, leaving her to attack by a tentacle monster. She loses consciousness and awakens alone in a spa-like environment. Time for another bath! Always concerned with hygiene, that’s Ororo. Rather than put on her dirty uniform, she opts for an even skimpier loincloth she finds nearby, and yes this is as gratuitous as it sounds. To be fair, Wolverine spends most of the issue shirtless as well. Nightcrawler finds Belasco’s throne room but thinks it unwise to attack him solo. Instead, he tracks the pervy Limbo-version of Nightcrawler and defeats him (kills him?), taking his clothes and feigning his identity in Belasco’s throne room. Wolverine and Colossus find a battle with S’ym, servant of Belasco and a parody of Dave Sims’ ill-tempered aardvark Cerebus. They figure out that the circles of light everywhere are teleporters, so they push S’ym into one to get rid of him for a few minutes. An old lady version of Ororo teleports Wolverine and Colossus to Belasco’s throne room just as young Storm arrives there as well. Outnumbered, Belasco flees for the moment, giving old Storm a chance to reunites Kitty’s skeleton and body magically, then free her from the crystal. Belasco returns with S’ym and a bunch of other demons. Old Ororo holds them all off while the X-Men teleport back to Earth using an amulet that Storm had found. At the moment of escape, Belasco is able to grab Illyana for just a moment, and by the time the X-Men pull her through the closing dimensional portal after them, she has aged from six to thirteen. She also has an amulet given her by Belasco. The vertices of its five-pointed star were empty when she received it in Limbo as a child, but now we see that three of the five vertices have been filled with Bloodstones, and clearly something bad will happen when the other two slots are filled. My Two Cents: Brent Anderson inked by Bob Wiacek? Yes, please! If this counts as a fill-in issue, I’ll not complain. Claremont was known for his elaborate soap operatics unspooled over many issues, but despite having alternate versions of all the heroes except Kitty Pryde, this issue would be an excellent point of entry for any new reader, while introducing elements clearly intended for future use. Belasco was a relatively new character at the time, having debuted in Ka-Zar #11 (1982). That one was penciled by Brent Anderson, who was also drawing the X-Men Graphic Novel “God Loves Man Kills” (Jan 1983) around the same time. Perhaps this is why he was tapped to draw this “Belasco vs X-Men” story as well. Belasco is as stereotypical a Satan-stand in as could be imagined, with pointy ears, small forehead horns, and a spade tail flickering around his ankles. The only “Belasco” of note outside X-Men seems to be an American theater impresario of the early 20th century who was namechecked by F. Scott Fitagerald in The Great Gatsby.
The idea of an evil “Bloodstone” may have come from the 1975 fantasy novel by that name by Karl Edward Wagner, a medical student who somehow found time to be a novelist in his spare time. I haven’t read the book, but apparently its Conan-like protagonist, Kane, goes on a quest to find a valuable relic (the eponymous gem) only to find that it houses a dark demon god that wants out, or something. It sounds like the kind of thing that Chris Claremont would have read in the 1970s. The teleportation discs came right out of Larry Niven’s 1970 novel Ringworld, as Kitty Pryde acknowledges on Claremont’s behalf. Illyana’s rapid aging opens all sort of obvious new opportunities. She’s a brand new character with a connection to established characters yet a mysterious past to be doled out over time. Marvel must have liked the results of this trope, because it was used again repeatedly – for both Nathan “Cable” Summers and Hope Summers, for instance. It’s a pretty obvious idea that doubtless has many previous examples, but if Claremont cribbed it from somewhere, the 1981 film version of Excalibur is as likely a single source as any, since it features Morgan Le Fay aging up Mordred, the child of her incest with her brother King Arthur, to serve as Arthur’s nemesis. Here’s a weird thing: I somehow acquired the Magik limited series in both trade hardback and trade paperback. The former lacks this X-Men story which is essential to the plot, but the latter contains it. What’s up with that, Marvel?
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 13, 2018 5:54:34 GMT -5
Looking back, I'm a bit shocked that the Comic code allowed a scene where Kitty, who was still a minor, was molested by Kurt. Yeah, I know the context is that he's a demon but , with todays sensibilities, it would never fly if published today. James Gunn I'm looking at you.
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Post by rberman on Aug 13, 2018 7:47:11 GMT -5
Looking back, I'm a bit shocked that the Comic code allowed a scene where Kitty, who was still a minor, was molested by Kurt. Yeah, I know the context is that he's a demon but , with todays sensibilities, it would never fly if published today. James Gunn I'm looking at you. I suppose since the groping was mentioned (in an oblique way) but not shown, that's how it could pass muster.
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Post by rberman on Aug 13, 2018 7:50:27 GMT -5
Magik: Storm and Illyana #1 “Little Girl Lost” (December 1983)
Creative Team: Chris Claremont writing. John Buscema Penciling. Tom Palmer inking. Theme: The witch’s apprentice The Story: After a one page “I am Illyana Rasputin, fourteen years old today, and this is my story…” frame device, a double splash page re-enacts Belasco’s tug-of-war with Kitty over six year old Illyana from X-Men #160. When Belasco wrests Illyana away from Kitty, he takes her to an altar and summons a vision of her as an adult semi-demon. This vision becomes the first Bloodstone which Belasco places in the five-pointed star amulet which will be Illyana’s Time Bomb McGuffin for many issues to come. Plus, Belasco says Illyana is bound to him “body and soul.” Claremontism! Old Ororo is too weak to intervene effectively. The arrival of Cat, an semi-feline adult ninja (Claremontism: ninja!) version of Kitty Pryde, prompts Belasco to teleport away, leaving Illyana behind. The two women take Illyana to Ororo’s spa hideaway, where Ororo casts a spell to astrally enter Illyana’s soul. She hopes to sever Illyana’s spiritual linkage to Belasco, but instead, a demonic version of adult Illyana defeats Ororo, who must flee back into the physical realm. After a bath (Claremontism!) in the spa’s pool, Ororo debates the next course of action with Cat, who advocates killing Illyana before Belasco’s plan for her can reach fruition. Cat stalks off, and Ororo tells an awakened Illyana how one of her first acts of magic was to create an acorn which has since grown into a large shade tree in the spa’s garden. Ororo gives Illyana a lesson in astral projection and the ability to see the life force and corruption of all things. Thanks, Master Yoda! But why does your body have a bigger corruption blemish than mine does? When Illyana awakens from her astral trance, a year has passed. A corrupted plant that Ororo thought she had healed has actually died, which doesn’t bode well for her other healing attempts. That night, Cat returns and ambushes Ororo, incapacitating her. Cat tells Illyana that Ororo’s magical approach will never cure the taint within Illyana; instead, she should come with Cat to try another solution. Belasco watches this turn of events in a scrying pool with pleasure. My Two Cents: This was a tale Chris Claremont never intended to tell, at least not like this. He planned to tease out secrets from Illyana’s back story over a long period of time. But his editor Louise Simonson thought it would make a good mini-series. Judge for yourself (when it’s all said and done) whether her edict illuminated a great tale or just spoiled a mystery. This story line shows the versatility of comic books. X-Men have crossed into many genres besides super-heroics, most often space opera, but this series is straight up fantasy. A good witch, a wicked wizard, and an unpredictable rogue vie for control of the Chosen One. John Buscema and Tom Palmer provide the art, and the results are as good as usual.
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Post by badwolf on Aug 13, 2018 10:17:04 GMT -5
Here’s a weird thing: I somehow acquired the Magik limited series in both trade hardback and trade paperback. The former lacks this X-Men story which is essential to the plot, but the latter contains it. What’s up with that, Marvel? Sometimes in later printings they decided to add supplemental material. Later collections of the Wolverine miniseries also include UXM #172-173, but I don't think they did originally.
I liked the Magik mini a lot, but it might indeed have been more interesting to have a slower reveal. I didn't know that's originally what Chris wanted to do.
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 13, 2018 17:42:47 GMT -5
I had all of these and knew Belasco from Ka-Zar, but other than getting Illyana to age and be a bit more interesting, it was more alternate future people time! They really went on to half ruin the X-Men with all the collisions and crossovers with alternate future people, probably the casual reader would've been lost too. Oh and the monster based on Dave Sim and Cerebus was so obvious and cutesy it helped spoil things for me as well, another thing Claremont does that destroys any real gravity to things (as well as the tinges of kinky sex that would usually just come off as out of place). There's that 'fuzzy elf' term again... yet Kitty was terrified of Kurt originally. Actually this is making me just remember a lot of what I disliked about Claremont and not all the things I did like. All the dialect speaking and foreign word dropping got very worn out with him too. If next up is going to be the Kitty & Wolverine mini-series where she becomes a ninja on top of a genius IQ, I maybe ought to leave now. Magick is preferable to that mess (and more awful costumes from the supposed genius IQ).
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Post by rberman on Aug 13, 2018 17:49:13 GMT -5
If next up is going to be the Kitty & Wolverine mini-series where she becomes a ninja on top of a genius IQ, I maybe ought to leave now. Magick is preferable to that mess (and more awful costumes from the supposed genius IQ). Hey, genius IQ and "terrible dresser" can go together! I should know! I've been debating whether to include the Kitty and Wolverine series. I probably will just for completeness. Others in the pipeline include Beauty and the Beast, Longshot, Firestar, and Fallen Angels, since they all impact New Mutants significantly. The X-Men/Micronauts and Nightcrawler and Wolverine mini-series will not be covered though, at least for now. Some of those were even non-Claremont.
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 13, 2018 18:02:44 GMT -5
I did buy Beauty & The Beast, Firestar, The Micronauts crossover and Wolverine (the first one). I mostly remember only really disliking the Kitty & Wolverine one. Had Longshot #1 &2 only. Maybe you can explain what I didn't understand about that character as it always seemed I was missing a lot with him.
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Post by badwolf on Aug 13, 2018 18:33:21 GMT -5
I only bought the first issue of Beauty & The Beast, but I had all the rest. I think I liked K&W in spite of the poor art, although now, yeah, the ninja thing seems a bit much.
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Post by rberman on Aug 13, 2018 19:57:32 GMT -5
Magik: Storm and Illyana #2 “Cold Iron Hot Blood!” (January 1984)
Creative Team: Chris Claremont writing. John Buscema penciling. Tom Palmer inking. Theme: Ninja school The Story: Cat’s attempt to return seven year old Illyana to Earth runs quickly afoul of some monsters in the wild, then a stepping disc accident, and then a brief encounter with S’ym, before Cat brings her to relative safety in a charred wilderness. Cat kills a two-headed saber-tooth tiger for dinner, then skins it to make Illyana a leather leotard and boots to replace the dress she’s been wearing since she left earth. Wait, don’t you have to cure leather before you wear it? Anyway… In the desert, Cat trains Illyana in swordplay for two years. At one point Ororo appears astrally and argues with Cat about this course of action, but Cat is unmoved. Then it’s time to sneak into Belasco’s fortress. The evil version of Nightcrawler is still alive, so they have to duel him, which ends with a surprisingly graphic sword through the chest for him, as well as a foot phased into the floor by Cat. Cat thinks she’s phasing Illyana back to Earth through a dimensional weak point, but it’s all just a trap set by Belasco. He turns Cat into even more of a were-feline, then uses mind control to cause Illyana to spill her own blood, forming the second of five eventual Bloodstones for her Time Bomb McGuffin amulet. Now she will be Belasco’s apprentice. My Two Cents: This series is turning into an exploration of different parenting styles. Ororo was a gentle tutor, albeit prone to fits of pique; she once grabbed Illyana’s arm painfully in a fit of temper. Cat is not at all gentle, motivating Illyana through threats rather than encouragement. Psychologists tell us that children have the best emotional outcomes in affirming environments which encourage them to explore rather than primarily punitive ones. We’d expect this experience to leave Illyana with emotional wounds that give her difficulty in forming emotional bonds, and her adolescent/young adult behavior tends to conform to that expectation. Cat says that Peter is the one “whom I loved more than my life.” This is one of the many instances in the early 80s in which Claremont declared that Kitty and Peter’s love was a sure thing. They are finally getting married in the official (616) Marvel universe in 2018, but I have no faith that The Powers That Be will let their union last any longer than Scott Summers and Madelyne, or Johnny Storm and Alicia, or Ororo and T’Challa, etc.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Aug 13, 2018 21:10:16 GMT -5
I had always though Illyana was kinda useless.. until a few years ago I read this mini.. it's one of my favorite X-Men stories. I'm a suck of alternate versions of stuff of course, but it's also a great tragic story with fantastic character development... it definitely made me a Magik fan.
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Post by rberman on Aug 14, 2018 7:12:00 GMT -5
Magik: Storm and Illyana #3 “Soulquest” (February 1984)
Creative Team: Chris Claremont writing. Ron Frenz penciling. Tom Palmer inking. Theme: Satan’s pupil The Story: Illyana passes another two years as the student of Belasco, so she’s now eleven. She’s mastered basic conjuring. Cat haunts the halls of Belasco’s palace, a reminder of what once was. When Illyana uses a burst of power to frighten Cat away, she realizes that she can access such power directly, without the formal incantations which Belasco has been teaching her. Summoning a silver (good-magic) pentagram, she tries to create an acorn, as she heard Ororo once did, but she fails. Ororo appears to her in a vision, promising to rescue her. Illyana thinks she can rescue herself by learning enough spells to defeat Belasco. That sounds like a really bad idea, and Ororo says so, leading to an argument before Ororo fades away. Illyana discovers she can control stepping discs, so she uses one to enter Belasco’s library, but she’s also moved years in the past. She witnesses a battle between young Ororo and Belasco. Ororo seems to win the battle but then becomes a demon herself, and Belasco isn’t even permanently dead. Illyana “steps” back to her own time, where she stumbles into a replay: Old Ororo is battling Belasco again in hopes of rescuing Illyana, but the magic duel is not going well for her. Illyana and Cat tangle on the sidelines, resulting in a snapped neck for Cat. Belasco gives a leering expositional speech about his intention to offer Ororo as a sacrifice to The Dark Ones. My Two Cents: If you can make your title a portmanteau containing two opposite nouns (birthgrave, lifedeath) or the word quest (soulquest, visionquest) by all means do so. Thus quoth Claremont. This issue is about the effects of Belasco taking over as Illyana’s parent-figure. He’s clearly grooming her for some dark destiny.At the beginning of the frame story in issue #1, Illyana describes herself as having been Belasco’s “consort,” but we haven’t seen any hint that he wants her for a demon-bride; it’s more like the relationship between a farmer and his prize pig, being fattened for an eventual slaughter. Claremont avoids avoids any implication of sexual involvement between Belasco and any of the women under his power; Demon Lords are far above such base animal concerns which sit much further down on Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. “Belasco, save me!” is a telling cry from Illyana. Makes me wonder whether Belasco keeps Cat around just to scare Illyana and cause her to look to him for protection. When I took my beagle to the dog park recently, I thought I would have to keep her on a short leash, because she loves to run. Nope; with all those other dogs around, my dog stayed as close to me as possible, in case she needed protection. Speaking of sexuality, Storm’s costume during her back-in-time battle with Belasco is… interesting. She has her post-Tokyo Mohawk and a bikini made of, I guess, duct tape. The design of this series owes more to Conan than to Superman. Ron Frenz has replaced John Buscema on pencils, but Tom Palmer is still inking, giving a sense of continuity. It’s odd to change pencilers in the middle of such a short project, so I wonder whether Buscema had some unexpected ailment.
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Post by comicsandwho on Aug 14, 2018 16:01:43 GMT -5
I had all of these and knew Belasco from Ka-Zar, but other than getting Illyana to age and be a bit more interesting, it was more alternate future people time! They really went on to half ruin the X-Men with all the collisions and crossovers with alternate future people, probably the casual reader would've been lost too. Oh and the monster based on Dave Sim and Cerebus was so obvious and cutesy it helped spoil things for me as well, another thing Claremont does that destroys any real gravity to things (as well as the tinges of kinky sex that would usually just come off as out of place). There's that 'fuzzy elf' term again... yet Kitty was terrified of Kurt originally. Actually this is making me just remember a lot of what I disliked about Claremont and not all the things I did like. All the dialect speaking and foreign word dropping got very worn out with him too. If next up is going to be the Kitty & Wolverine mini-series where she becomes a ninja on top of a genius IQ, I maybe ought to leave now. Magick is preferable to that mess (and more awful costumes from the supposed genius IQ). I have probably read the fewest X-Men comics of anyone who can make a legitimate claim to being a comics fan. My only issue of UNCANNY came from the 'comic packs' back in 1978 or '79...it had Sunfire on the cover...and it didn't last long, as I was 'rough' on comics if I didn't particularly like them! Never collected the title, spinoffs, etc.(or tried to, even when it was actually possible to follow the saga). Anything I know about the X-Men comes from guest appearances and the 'Official Handbook'(or the 'X-Men-Teen Titans' one shot...and, yeah, 'Obnoxio vs. The X-Men.' There, I read it. ).
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 14, 2018 17:48:32 GMT -5
I forgot about Obnoxio vs. The X-Men. I know I had it but I can't remember much about it anymore. I loved him in Crazy! I also had The X-Men At The State Fair Of Texas comic as well, I think that was pretty good with Kerry Gammill art.
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