|
Post by codystarbuck on Sept 2, 2018 19:48:38 GMT -5
Milgrom and Chaykin aren't a very strong art team, surprisingly. Quite frankly, I would have liked to have seen them reverse roles, with Chaykin drawing and Milgrom inking. Milgrom later inked Chaykin on Micronauts #13-18, which wasn't very good either. Yeah, though I'm not as down on that as some; though it isn't Chaykin's best mediocre work, even. Chaykin is better when he can do his own sci-fi, in the style he prefers. Let him be dark and cynical and he is golden. He was good on Star Wars; but I think he was helped by having things like Han, Vader and the Empire to give him some motivation. Plus, a lot was left to the inkers on that, in some issues.
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Sept 2, 2018 23:20:08 GMT -5
Marvel Presents #8Creative Team: Roger Stern didn't write the story, Al Milgrom and Bob Wiacek didn't draw, jim Novak didn't letter and Glynis Wein did not color. Stan Lee did write, John Buscema and Joe Sinnott did draw, Stan edited, and Archie Goodwin was stuck with people who couldn't meet deadlines. Synopsis: Due to commitments, drugs, alcohol, partying, circumstances or not giving a defecation, Steve Gerber didn't get his story done in time. Instead, Roger Stern contrived a framing sequence, where the gang retrieves an object floating in space and eveal a recording of what happened in Silver Surfer #2, when the Surfer encountered the Badoon. Thoughts: Any question about who was running things at Marvel? The answer is no one. Archie Goodwin inherited a total mess from his predecessors and he couldn't make it work; no one could, without radical overhauling. Archie didn't want the job in the first place and was only there to keep the machinery running, as best he could. Shooter ended up being the guy who wanted the job and actually made it work, for good or ill (pretty much both, simultaneously). The Surfer story is fine; but, Vance's reaction is that of the readers who were stuck with yet another fill in. You can skip this one. You're better off finding the Silver Surfer issue than reading it this way. At least that was created for professional reason, not as damage control.
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Sept 2, 2018 23:42:08 GMT -5
Marvel Presents #9Creative Team: Gerber finally turned in his script, Milgrom and Wiacek drew it, Denise Wohl lettered and Don Warfield colored, Archie took antacids Synopsis: Vance hurls the script back at Gerber and yells at him for being late. Nikki tries to calm him down and sex him up; but, the full body condom and 1000 years of inhibitions interrupt things, as does a sudden course correction. The ship is under attack by the Reavers of Arcturus Aleta knows what's going on: they have trapped them in a radiation bubble and will monitor how much it takes to kill them. They demand answers and Aleta transforms back into Starhawk. He gets all One Who Knows, then doubles over, then both Starhawk and Aleta are lying there! They figure out that Starhawk and Aleta shared the same body and then Yondu communicates wit Aleta on some other plane. She illustrates that the Reavers attacked a city of mutants, one of whom found a human foetus in a jar, still alive. One of the Reaver, Ogord, takes the child as his own, to be a brother to his little girl, Aleta. The boy is named Stakar and grows up with Aleta. Stakar is obsessed with nearby ruins and sneaks off to explore, drawn to an underground temple of a Hawk God. Aleta trails him then says she will protect them. Back on the ship, Stakar and Aleta are grasping hands in sick bay, just as we saw in the past. they reform into Starhawk's body and he rushes to the teleporter and has Martinexx beam him into space. This he does, then the Reavers board the Captain America. An old man observes on the Reaver ship, as John, Tar and Sita observe, as well. Thoughts: Well, the ending doesn't sound good! Now we are getting into the origin of Starhawk. We learn of the Reavers, who are a nasty bunch of Nazis. Stakar is brought into their lives and affects Aleta, diverting her from her path. We will see in next issue where this leads. Meanwhile, milgrom and Wiacek prove a pretty good team and this stuff looks way better than previous issues. The Reaver ships are suitably nasty and the Hawk God statue is pretty cool.
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Sept 3, 2018 13:35:52 GMT -5
Marvel Presents #10Creative Team: Gerner, Milgrom, Wiacek; Irv Watanabe-letters, Janice Cohen-colors, Archie-along for the ride. Synopsis: When we left the gang, the Reavers were boarding the ship... Yondu keeps them off balance, Martinex heat blast weapons, Nikki nimbly evades and a stray shot takes out the anti-gravity, which lets Vance hit with a psi-bolt and Charlie womps the big Reaver, since he trained to fight in Zero G (except Milgrom ignores the fact that his punch would send him spinning backwards). Gravity kicks back in and they assess damage. The Reavers are androids and the big guy is older than Vance. Starhawk is flying through space, headed deeper into the system, as the crazy old guy watches and the kids act like zombie. They call him grandfather, which confirms that he is Ogar, the wan who found Stakar in the lab. We shift to the past as Stakar explores the Hawk God temple, while Aleta guards. He has found or pieced together a brain wave helmet and Aleta spots their father and a Reaver patrol. She tells Stakar that it is time to vamoose; but, he wants to explore. They fight, she tosses the helmet and gets zapped... She zips over to the Hawk God statue and brings it to life. She is overwhelmed by the power and bursts through the roof, into the city above... The Reavers attack and wished they hadn't, in a truly awesome two-page spread... Stakar uses the brain wave helmet to reach Aleta's mind, trying to calm her. he jumps into an ornithopter to get closer and contacts her again. She opens her mind and joins with his and we get a massive nuclear explosion, then implosion, leaving nothing but fused glass in the area, and the figure of Stakar. Ogord has somehow survived and comes across him, as Stakar changes to Aleta, then the combined form of Starhawk... He tells off Ogord and then flies off into space, to find his destiny. In the present, Ogord sees him coming and then gives the order that destroys the Captain America, as we end on the cliffhanger. Thoughts: Lots of action, we learn Starhawk's origin and how the shared body works (to a point). This is a big improvement over the whole Topographical man and Asylum planet. Ogord is extremely nuts. Milgrom and Wiacek are really jelling at this point and you are left wishing Bob had been the inker from the start.
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Sept 3, 2018 14:02:52 GMT -5
Marvel Present #11Someone's getting a time-out! Creative Team: Roger Stern-writer, Milgrom and Wiacek-artists, Denise Wohl-letters, Phil Rache-colorist, Archie-guiding light. Uh oh, Gerber's gone...... Synopsis: The Guardians have been blown into space... It's all a fake, which Boba Fett later stole, as a pod detaches from the debris, latches onto a Reaver ship, and then the Guardians board and kick butt. Charlie has a whole pile of android bodies. They take the skipper alive, for interrogation and Martinex taps their data banks, getting the lowdown on Stakar and Alet, Starhawk, and how the Reavers took the kids and about their latent abilities. They hightail it after Starhawk, who is laying waste to defenses, as Aleta's mind urges him to save the children. Starhawk confronts Ogord, who unveils the kids, who zap Starhawk. Turns out they are psychic vampires and Ogord has unleashed their talents, on Starhawk. The Guardians smash through a control tower and crash their ship, then emerge, guns, arrows, brains and hands a-blain'! Starhawk is going down for the count. he switches to Aleta, to try to reach the kids; but, they are gone. They start to age as they absorb Starhawk's power, and they form a force bubble as the Guardians arrive. Nikki directs Charlie to grab Ogord, who yells stop, and the kids do. Yondo alerts Vance, who hits them with a psi-bolt, destroying the mind control headbands. They age into dust and are gone. Thoughts: Well, that wasn't what I expected (originally, when I read this). not sure if it was what Gerber intended, though I suspect it is along the same lines. Not exactly sure why Gerber left. Howard the Duck is still ongoing and Omega The Unknown was still alive. It might have been related to the Howard newspaper strip, which started up around then, as Gerber was initially scripting it (but got fired, over deadline issues, and Marv Wolfman came on it). His blow up with Marvel wasn't until 1978. Pretty sad ending for Starhawk, as his own father uses his children to try to kill them, only for the kids to die in the end. As One Who Knows, didn't he see this coming? Maybe he did and knew he could change it. Tragic stuff. Well, it looks like we are in for a ride with Roger Sten in the writer's chair. let's see if it is a long one.
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Sept 3, 2018 14:31:08 GMT -5
Marvel Presents #12That's an old pulp cover that has been swiped endlessly. Creative Team: Stern, Milgrom, Wiacek, Watanabe, Rache, Goodwin Synopsis: The Guardians have the wounded form of Starhawk in their arms and they are leaving. The Reavers try to stop them and end up a pile of bodies. They steal a Reaver ship and take off and no one is in a hurry to go after them. They head for home and Starhawk is dying. they send out a distress call and get a response, from nearby. They head towards it and find an object in space, which Charlie recognizes... They land and are greeted by Space Militiamen. They rush Starhawk to sickbay then take them to meet the CO, stopping off for the gang to wash and change. Nikki gets a new go-go dancer outfit and Charlie gets a new uniform, though he keeps his mask. They meet the CO, who is Jovian Hollis-12. He tells them that they were testing a new warp drive, when the Badoon attacked and they headed out into space; but, the drive burnt out and left them adrift. He tells a bad joke and Charlie cracks up, tries to slap him on the back and his hand goes through Hollis. Turns out he and the rest are holograms. The Guardians are taken prisoner by robots and Charlie is dumped down the central shaft, though he is able to stop his fall and tear through the bulkhead. Hollis-ogram tells them that the drive had a radiation leak and killed everyone. The ship made a hologram of him to command things, as that was part o its programming. He plans to use Vance and Nikki to create clones, while the rest are put on ice. He tries to kill Charlie, who gets a bit touchy about that... Charlie gets to an airdock, dons a pressure suit and goes outside, fighting defenses until he gets to the right spot and smashes his way to the ship's control center. he unhooks the hologram, just as it switches to the image of his late father. he shuts it all down and frees everyone. They depart for new adventures. Thoughts: Open the pod bay doors, Hollis! It's all rather 2001: A Space Odyssey, though it is nice to see Charlie take center stage, since Vance and Starhawk have dominated things. The story is very Trek-meets-Kubrick. It is a nice palate cleanser, after the Starhawk saga. However, it kind of ends abruptly and leaves us dangling, as the series is cancelled (as is the book). This was probably known, as the Thor Annual, with the Guardians as guest stars, was announced previously and this segues into it. My guess is that sales were never great, they gave it a try and then yanked it. Happened a lot at this point and time as the whole industry was hurting, with the recession, rising production cost, and the deaths of newsstand outlets. We are still a couple of years away from the Direct Market becoming a force,though Marvel is about to get a shot in the arm, thanks to Roy Thomas' negotiating, leading to the Star Wars comic. Quite frankly, I don't think Gerber's weirdness was a positive for the Guardians. I think more adventures like this would have given them a better lifespan; that and tapping more Trek. Gerber got away with it better in Howard, where the absurdity of a talking duck made his satire more palatable. It was lossed on a space opera series (and it got self-indulgent in Defenders). From here we go to Thor Annual #6 and Korvac!
|
|
|
Post by mikelmidnight on Sept 4, 2018 11:41:41 GMT -5
I thought that was hysterical, and I wonder if it was based on a similar scene from an early issue of Zap Comix. Btw, it was later hinted that the Topographical Man is a future version of the Marvel villain the Living Pharaoh.
|
|
|
Post by mikelmidnight on Sept 4, 2018 11:45:55 GMT -5
Thoughts: Well, that wasn't what I expected (originally, when I read this). not sure if it was what Gerber intended, though I suspect it is along the same lines. Not exactly sure why Gerber left. Howard the Duck is still ongoing and Omega The Unknown was still alive. It might have been related to the Howard newspaper strip, which started up around then, as Gerber was initially scripting it (but got fired, over deadline issues, and Marv Wolfman came on it). His blow up with Marvel wasn't until 1978. Pretty sad ending for Starhawk, as his own father uses his children to try to kill them, only for the kids to die in the end. As One Who Knows, didn't he see this coming? Maybe he did and knew he could change it. Tragic stuff. I dunno, I mean ... Gerber is usually not that sort of downbeat, and it makes a lot of Starhawk's and Aleta's earlier (missed) interactions sort of pointless. Did these kids die because Vance was too much of a jerk to pass on a simple message? And the later iteration of what he 'knows' (that he's in a Groundhog Day sort of existence) also makes this inexplicable. Frankly it's because of this story that I didn't keep my copies of the series.
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Sept 9, 2018 0:06:04 GMT -5
Thor Annual #6Creative Team: Len Wein & Roger Stern-plot (Wein-edits & Stern-script); Sal Buscema & Klaus Janson-art, Joe Rosen-letters, Glynis Wein-colors; Archie Goodwin-Odin Synopsis: In Manhattan, someone calls out, "Look! Up in the sky....It's a bird!.....It's a plane......It's.......Oh, it's just Thor. Never mind." Thor spots some cops not hanging out in the donut shop (nor are the singing or dancing, oh-way-oh. They don't even walk like Egyptians!). Some terrorists are holed up inside a Roxxon nucleonics lab, with a reactor, that they are threatening to send it into meltdown. Thor goes sauntering in and starts throwing hammers at things, breaking controls, so they can't set it off. They shoot at him, he laughest at them, verily. Then, the reactor gets a glowy and it and Thor disappears and then materializes elsewhere, where some purple dude, in the shadows, zaps him. meanwhile, out in space, the Guardians of the Galaxy are out joyriding, with Nikki at the helm, in a new, boxy spaceship (must be a Volvo), when they are hit by a power beam and everything goes pear-shaped, equipment breaks loose, so that Marvel can demonstrate the GOTG's powers. Starhawk is outside and beams in and says they gotta go see who's monkeying with the universe and they change course, which is noted by som lizard dude (not a Badoon) and the purple guys hurls asteroids at them (why not; it's 1977!). They maneuver away and then Starhawk locates a Thro-cycle, when they come across where the purple guy zapped Thor. They bring him on board and we relive the Avengers finding Captain America (Avengers #4) and Thor jumps up shouting about Bucky. Okay, he doesn' ; but, you're waiting for it. We finally get to see the purple dude full on... Looks like Davros. Who looked like Captain Pike. The alien underlings argue a bit and tick off purple dude and then he names himself, Korvac, then relates his past. he was a computer tech who wasn't recognized by his bosses; so, he collaborated with the Badoon. He fell asleep at the wheel and they decided to turn him into a living computer; but, he went all Vger and grew too powerful. He was snatched by the Grandmaster in GS Defenders #3; but, Dr Strange punched him back to the future. He started probing time and assembling his toadies, then sent a beam to our sun, to turn it nova, then siphon the energy back to power his devices (dude, get some batteries). Vance makes introductions and everyone says hello to Thor, then catch up on the energy issue and they are on the attack. They beam out before their ship is destroyed, then run smack into the goons. They say, "Let's fight!" and are answered with, "Them's fightin' words!" Everyone goes at it and Thor and Starhawk go after Korvac and they get teleported back to where they came in, until Thor smacks it with a hammer. Starhawk zaps him with stellar radiation, then Korvac shows his missing eye and Eclipsos them into fighting each other (this is Marvel, after all). The Guardians whoop on the goons, then Thor and Starhawk start wrecking the place, which dislodges debris, which mashes Korvac's stuff (he just can't have nice things!) and releases the pair of them. They smash more of Korvac's stuff, ending his threat, though he teleported away, before. Thor disappears, back to 1977) and the Guardians move on. Thoughts: Well, it was eventful; not quite coherent; but, eventful. Quite frankly, this is a pretty tired plot, where some future Marvel villain uses future technology to mess with the past, stirring up a hornet's nest of superheroes. Heroes are forced into fights, which they are losing, until they win them for no good reason and then villain buggers off. Then, reset button. Korvac ends up being yet another Kang, in this one, minus the thigh boots (and legs to wear them!). He would be put to better use by Jim Shooter, down the road (3 months down the road, to be exact). As these things go, it isn't bad; but, it's hardly epic. Kind of average, really. However, it does set up the coming Korvac Saga, in Avengers; so, it's got dat going' for it! The art looks great, though it looks less like Sal and more like Klaus (his inks do that, with most people, though Sal was often doing just loose layouts for Klaus). Here and there you see more Sal. We aren't told what happened to Drydock, though we can assume they built their new ship there. It's kind of a dull design.... compared to the old Trek-inspired Captain America, or Drydock. If only Dave Cockrum had done the design for it! Still better than some of the Marvel Presents issues. Next up: The Korvac Saga!
|
|
|
Post by zaku on Sept 9, 2018 8:22:44 GMT -5
I remember reading this story when I was a kid and wondering from what water that ice was made of. And why Thor was having problems with outer space, considering that in other instances he had no issues at all.
|
|
|
Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 9, 2018 9:09:15 GMT -5
Marvel Presents #10Creative Team: Gerner, Milgrom, Wiacek; Irv Watanabe-letters, Janice Cohen-colors, Archie-along for the ride. Synopsis: When we left the gang, the Reavers were boarding the ship... Yondu keeps them off balance, Martinex heat blast weapons, Nikki nimbly evades and a stray shot takes out the anti-gravity, which lets Vance hit with a psi-bolt and Charlie womps the big Reaver, since he trained to fight in Zero G (except Milgrom ignores the fact that his punch would send him spinning backwards). Gravity kicks back in and they assess damage. The Reavers are androids and the big guy is older than Vance. Starhawk is flying through space, headed deeper into the system, as the crazy old guy watches and the kids act like zombie. They call him grandfather, which confirms that he is Ogar, the wan who found Stakar in the lab. We shift to the past as Stakar explores the Hawk God temple, while Aleta guards. He has found or pieced together a brain wave helmet and Aleta spots their father and a Reaver patrol. She tells Stakar that it is time to vamoose; but, he wants to explore. They fight, she tosses the helmet and gets zapped... She zips over to the Hawk God statue and brings it to life. She is overwhelmed by the power and bursts through the roof, into the city above... The Reavers attack and wished they hadn't, in a truly awesome two-page spread... Stakar uses the brain wave helmet to reach Aleta's mind, trying to calm her. he jumps into an ornithopter to get closer and contacts her again. She opens her mind and joins with his and we get a massive nuclear explosion, then implosion, leaving nothing but fused glass in the area, and the figure of Stakar. Ogord has somehow survived and comes across him, as Stakar changes to Aleta, then the combined form of Starhawk... He tells off Ogord and then flies off into space, to find his destiny. In the present, Ogord sees him coming and then gives the order that destroys the Captain America, as we end on the cliffhanger. Thoughts: Lots of action, we learn Starhawk's origin and how the shared body works (to a point). This is a big improvement over the whole Topographical man and Asylum planet. Ogord is extremely nuts. Milgrom and Wiacek are really jelling at this point and you are left wishing Bob had been the inker from the start. Was Milgrom doing a Starlin impression or did Jim provide uncredited breakdowns on this one?
|
|
|
Post by beccabear67 on Sept 9, 2018 15:36:06 GMT -5
Was Milgrom doing a Starlin impression or did Jim provide uncredited breakdowns on this one? You're right! I'd say that looks like Starlin pencils. I enjoyed Thor Annual #6 more than most of the Presents run, but also had a few problems suspending disbelief.
|
|
|
Post by chaykinstevens on Sept 10, 2018 10:25:45 GMT -5
GCD credits Starlin with uncredited pencils. One of their contributors thinks he pencilled about two thirds of the issue and another thinks he did layouts for all of it.
|
|
|
Post by Rob Allen on Sept 10, 2018 13:42:40 GMT -5
The story from the Thor Annual was recently reprinted in the Thor issue of Marvel Comics Digest (#3, Dec. 2017).
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2018 14:12:12 GMT -5
codystarbuck -- I'm seriously thinking of re-reading the Guardians of the Galaxy and your reviews intrigued me.
|
|