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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 19, 2018 0:12:48 GMT -5
Avengers #177Creative Team: Shooter-writer, lord and master of all he surveys, except Stan and those who report to Stan and those who get paid better than the creative personnel, Wenzel-pencils, Marcos & Ricardo Villamonte-inks, Denis Wohl-letters, Nel Yomtov-colors, Roger Stern-edits Synopsis: Michael and Carina are cosmicing the Avengers... He's worried that every other cosmic being now knows of his existence and expects Odin, Zeus and Mephisto to team up, while Watcher and Eternity are awakened to his threat. Moondragon sends a mental SOS to the Guardians, who fly a Quinjet of of the house they are staying in, and zip over to Forest Hills Garden, further upsetting the neighbors, who just had a busload of Avengers come traipsing through. next it will be Jehovah's Witnesses! The Guardians show up and attack Korvac, and he clenches a hand, destroying Drydock and Vance Astro. Nikki loses it and attacks him and gets slapped aside. Charlie, Iron Man, Wonder Man and Vision bullrush him and it does no good. Thor tries Hammer Time and is blocked and Herc gets cosmically slapped around. Iron Man yells at Black panther to grab Carina and he hesitates; but, Hank Pym grabs her (foreshadowing) and gets blasted and killed for it. hawkeye and Yondu let fly arrows and get killed. Ms Marvel attacks and gets swatted. Martinex, Black Panther and Mar-Vell seem to be killed. Everyone is going down and Cap attacks and gets a few licks in, before being hurled through a door. Iron man, Thor and Vision attack and stagger Korvac, and pour it on. He reaches out to Carina and she hesitates and he dies. Carina loses her stuff and attacks. Thor faces off against her and Mjolnir zaps her and she dies. moondragon reveals that Korvac only wanted to free humanity from Eternity and Carina truly loved him and, in dying, Michael returned the Avengers to life, though they are in critical condition. A doctor is needed, so Thor changes into Dr Donald Blake and attends to the wounded. Thoughts: Here endeth the Korvac Saga. The guy just wants to be loved, is that so wrong? (Said in Harvey Firestein's voice) Weird ending, though plenty of epic mayhem and copious amounts of death, only to be resurrected. Very messianic ending, as Korvac dies for humanity's sins, restoring the Avengers to life, while Carina joins him in cosmic suicide. It's a shame Perez didn't stay for the end; but, Dave Wenzell and Pablo Marcos turn out to be a pretty good team for this. There are way too many characters and even Shooter kind of loss track of the Guardians, until the end. After being integral to the opening, they fade quickly in the background. They don't really even protect young Vance from any threats greater than playing in the street, in the dark, with a semi truck barreling along (in a suburban neighborhood). Kind of a waste of the characters. That's kind of the problem with these things, as all of the characters end up being background filler, while a few key favorites get all of the action. In a few issues, the ridiculous number of people hanging around the mansion will be paird down, as Henry Gyrich lays down the law, from the government. These things always seem to have deus ex machina endings, which never ceases to disappoint, a bit. At least Galactus was taken down by a macguffin that the FF had to cross a universe to find, with the help of the Watcher, giving them the Ultimate Nullifier and the means to stop Galactus. Thanos always set up his own downfall, due to feeling of inadequacy, just when he achieves godhood. Korvac is no different.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 19, 2018 0:23:02 GMT -5
Avengers #181Essentially, after a few adventures, Henry Gyrich shows up to reinstate Avengers Priority, with some demands. the team is pared down to seven members and everyone else leaves. The Guardians go off to use the Collector's time machine to get back to their time period, though that is delayed a bit. John Byrne is on art and we get the set-up for the Wundagore storyline, where Wanda and Pietro are led to believe they are the children of Django Maximoff, a Romani, and not those of Bob and Madeline Frank (Whizzer and Miss America) and we run into Chthon (great story arc, with some awesome art). Later, we learn that they are the children of Magneto. The Guardians next turn up in a few issues of Marvel Two-in One and Marvel Team-Up, before going into hiatus, until their own revived series.
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Post by zaku on Sept 19, 2018 6:57:57 GMT -5
I have to say that the house is in a surprising good condition, considering that it had been the stage for a battle against a being endowed with cosmic powers. Nowadays, if you don't destroy at least a couple of neighborhoods, you can't even say you've had a fight.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 19, 2018 8:52:52 GMT -5
I have to say that the house is in a surprising good condition, considering that it had been the stage for a battle against a being endowed with cosmic powers. Nowadays, if you don't destroy at least a couple of neighborhoods, you can't even say you've had a fight. Well, it was so tastefully decorated; I'm sure the Avengers didn't want to make a mess. Spacious living room, too.
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Post by zaku on Sept 19, 2018 10:08:58 GMT -5
I have to say that the house is in a surprising good condition, considering that it had been the stage for a battle against a being endowed with cosmic powers. Nowadays, if you don't destroy at least a couple of neighborhoods, you can't even say you've had a fight. Well, it was so tastefully decorated; I'm sure the Avengers didn't want to make a mess. Spacious living room, too. I wonder if an epic battle against an omnipotent villain can affect the value of real estate...
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 19, 2018 12:48:56 GMT -5
Well, it was so tastefully decorated; I'm sure the Avengers didn't want to make a mess. Spacious living room, too. I wonder if an epic battle against an omnipotent villain can affect the value of real estate... Well, after a busload of Avengers show up and then the Guardians of the Galaxy park a Quinjet on the street, i think everyone was motivated to sell. When you think about it, homeowner's insurance in the Marvel Universe must be astronomical. "This policy does not cover flood, natural disasters, mutant gang fights or Acts of Galactus."
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Post by zaku on Sept 20, 2018 1:11:11 GMT -5
I wonder if an epic battle against an omnipotent villain can affect the value of real estate... Well, after a busload of Avengers show up and then the Guardians of the Galaxy park a Quinjet on the street, i think everyone was motivated to sell. When you think about it, homeowner's insurance in the Marvel Universe must be astronomical. "This policy does not cover flood, natural disasters, mutant gang fights or Acts of Galactus." Sometimes I wonder why in the Marvel Universe a citizen wants to live in New York or why a company wants to have a headquarter or branch there ...
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 26, 2018 20:40:37 GMT -5
Marvel Team-Up #86Creative Team: Chris Claremont-script, Bob McLeod-art, Joe Rosen-Letters, George Roussos-colors, Al Milgrom-editor. From a plot by Allyn Brodsky. Synopsis: When we last saw the Guardians of the Galaxy, they had been kicked out of the Avengers Mansion (along with a lot of other people) and were headed off in the Collector's time ship. Meanwhile, Spidey is climbing up the Magnum Building, headquarters of the Deterrence Research Corporation, which makes weapons. Spidey and Punisher took down its CEO and owner, Moses Magnum; but, the company still makes weapons. Spidey's poking around because of rumors of a big deal, for RC, that may involve illegal activity. His Spidey Senses alert him to the presence of one Lawrence Whittier Reynolds III, Columbia journalism student and wannabe tv reporter. he hard the same rumor and has broken in and is filming files with a mobile video camera. Reynolds hears someone coming and hides out. He finds records of Drydock, the Guardians of the Galaxy's space station, which was time displaced. DRC are planning a space launch to rendezvous with it and steal technology. Reynolds runs into Martinex, who hoofs it out of there and reports back to the other Guardians. They are there to erase the tapes (from stolen SHIELD files; come on Nick, our security sucks!) and Martinex says he was filmed by Reynolds. Nikki goes after Reynolds and the tape, with Starhawk and Martinex go for the DRC records. Reynolds climbs down a rope and hightails it out; but, runs smack into a guard. Spidey eliminates the guard and Nikki grabs the tape. She jumps in a taxi and speeds away; but, Spidey can beat midtown traffic. He intercepts Nikki. Starhawk apparently didn't know he would show up (despite being One Who Knows) and jumps out at Spidey. Spidey decks him, then Nikki hits him with a kick about 4 inches above the groin. Martinex is able to halt the fight. He fills in Spidey. meanwhile, the guad reports back and he and his partner, who are some kind of villain team, called Hammer and Anvil, are sent to stop Spidey, with some kind of alien chain (cable is more accurate). They ambush Spidey and he is taken prisoner. The Guardians show up for the rescue, they all fight, beat the villains and then take off in their ship, while Spidey sabotages Reynolds and his cameras. Thoughts: Nice idea; but, kind of a lackluster follow-up to a multi-issue storyline that saw Spidey team up with an amnesiac Black Widow, to stop a plot by Viper and Silver Samurai to hijack the SHIELD Helicarrier and doe a kamikaze run on the Capitol Building, during a presidential address of Congress. They get help form Nick Fury and Shang Chi, while Viper and SS also work with Boomerang. That was a hell of a story. This one; not so much. The idea of someone targeting Drydock for the tech is a good plot; but, it should build to their actually trying to board the station, not just a street chase for a video tape and a break in at an office building (and a fight with low level villains). The Guardians are missing Charlie 27 and Vance Astro, for some reason. Claremont gets rather wordy here and kind of bogs things down, in a couple of spots. McLeod's art is fine; but, this isn't really a strong issue for either the Guardians or Spidey. Meanwhile, if Starhawk is One Who Knows, why does he never seem to know when someone is going to attack them? I think his actual title should be One Who Knows............Jack S@#$! From here we jump to Marvel Two-in One, where Starhawk will guest star, before the others join the fun, a few issues later.
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Post by brianf on Sept 26, 2018 22:06:28 GMT -5
don't forget a 'lil bit of Vance with Ms Marvel Super Mega Monkey Says...
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Sept 27, 2018 5:49:45 GMT -5
Avengers #177Creative Team: Shooter-writer, lord and master of all he surveys, except Stan and those who report to Stan and those who get paid better than the creative personnel, Wenzel-pencils, Marcos & Ricardo Villamonte-inks, Denis Wohl-letters, Nel Yomtov-colors, Roger Stern-edits Synopsis: Michael and Carina are cosmicing the Avengers... He's worried that every other cosmic being now knows of his existence and expects Odin, Zeus and Mephisto to team up, while Watcher and Eternity are awakened to his threat. Moondragon sends a mental SOS to the Guardians, who fly a Quinjet of of the house they are staying in, and zip over to Forest Hills Garden, further upsetting the neighbors, who just had a busload of Avengers come traipsing through. next it will be Jehovah's Witnesses! The Guardians show up and attack Korvac, and he clenches a hand, destroying Drydock and Vance Astro. Nikki loses it and attacks him and gets slapped aside. Charlie, Iron Man, Wonder Man and Vision bullrush him and it does no good. Thor tries Hammer Time and is blocked and Herc gets cosmically slapped around. Iron Man yells at Black panther to grab Carina and he hesitates; but, Hank Pym grabs her (foreshadowing) and gets blasted and killed for it. hawkeye and Yondu let fly arrows and get killed. Ms Marvel attacks and gets swatted. Martinex, Black Panther and Mar-Vell seem to be killed. Everyone is going down and Cap attacks and gets a few licks in, before being hurled through a door. Iron man, Thor and Vision attack and stagger Korvac, and pour it on. He reaches out to Carina and she hesitates and he dies. Carina loses her stuff and attacks. Thor faces off against her and Mjolnir zaps her and she dies. moondragon reveals that Korvac only wanted to free humanity from Eternity and Carina truly loved him and, in dying, Michael returned the Avengers to life, though they are in critical condition. A doctor is needed, so Thor changes into Dr Donald Blake and attends to the wounded. Thoughts: Here endeth the Korvac Saga. The guy just wants to be loved, is that so wrong? (Said in Harvey Firestein's voice) Weird ending, though plenty of epic mayhem and copious amounts of death, only to be resurrected. Very messianic ending, as Korvac dies for humanity's sins, restoring the Avengers to life, while Carina joins him in cosmic suicide. It's a shame Perez didn't stay for the end; but, Dave Wenzell and Pablo Marcos turn out to be a pretty good team for this. There are way too many characters and even Shooter kind of loss track of the Guardians, until the end. After being integral to the opening, they fade quickly in the background. They don't really even protect young Vance from any threats greater than playing in the street, in the dark, with a semi truck barreling along (in a suburban neighborhood). Kind of a waste of the characters. That's kind of the problem with these things, as all of the characters end up being background filler, while a few key favorites get all of the action. In a few issues, the ridiculous number of people hanging around the mansion will be paird down, as Henry Gyrich lays down the law, from the government. These things always seem to have deus ex machina endings, which never ceases to disappoint, a bit. At least Galactus was taken down by a macguffin that the FF had to cross a universe to find, with the help of the Watcher, giving them the Ultimate Nullifier and the means to stop Galactus. Thanos always set up his own downfall, due to feeling of inadequacy, just when he achieves godhood. Korvac is no different. Tough crowd, tonight! When this was written, we hadn’t yet grown jaded by Thanos or someone else almost conquering the universe and/or reshaping reality for the hundredth time in yet another Infinity Weekly Crisis event. And Korvac being defeated by love was a very archetypal way to go, I think! This was an early “cosmic”-level adventure with more content than flash (a trait that has been lost with more recent attempts due to the need of preserving the status quo while still trying to convince customers that a new event will actually be significant). Korvac not having been a mustache-twirling villain in the end was also refreshing, especially since his enlightenment came after he gained his powers. Here’s a guy who apparently really did want to make things better, and didn’t just say he did to justify his selfish desires. A bit ruthless, to be sure, and definitely dangerous, but more layered than an Anti-monitor. My one gripe with this issue was the mandatory “everybody shoots at the villain at the same time” scene. When Thor is hitting someone with godly lightning, I don’t think that one of Hawkeye’s arrows is going to add much more than psychological support!
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Post by brutalis on Sept 27, 2018 7:41:45 GMT -5
But Roquefort Raider, what if the villain is so powerful that Thor's bolt of lightning (or combination of everyone's shots) weakens the villains defenses enough to allow Hawkeye's arrow through and takes him down? That is the main purpose from an everybody hit em with all you got at once attack: somebody will manage to get a shot in that stops the ultra-powerful bad guy. Also you should never count our purple archer out. Many a times it has been ol' brother Hawk of the Eye who either helped set up the win or has been the one to win when the big gun's otherwise failed. Also what about Captain America standing up to Thanos when he knows there is no way in hell he even stands a chance of stopping Thanos? Not a futile spit in the wind but actually the stronger spit in your face never give up never say die in causing the villain to doubt himself or his cause allowing for their ultimate failure or downfall?
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 27, 2018 10:26:37 GMT -5
Avengers #177Creative Team: Shooter-writer, lord and master of all he surveys, except Stan and those who report to Stan and those who get paid better than the creative personnel, Wenzel-pencils, Marcos & Ricardo Villamonte-inks, Denis Wohl-letters, Nel Yomtov-colors, Roger Stern-edits Synopsis: Michael and Carina are cosmicing the Avengers... He's worried that every other cosmic being now knows of his existence and expects Odin, Zeus and Mephisto to team up, while Watcher and Eternity are awakened to his threat. Moondragon sends a mental SOS to the Guardians, who fly a Quinjet of of the house they are staying in, and zip over to Forest Hills Garden, further upsetting the neighbors, who just had a busload of Avengers come traipsing through. next it will be Jehovah's Witnesses! The Guardians show up and attack Korvac, and he clenches a hand, destroying Drydock and Vance Astro. Nikki loses it and attacks him and gets slapped aside. Charlie, Iron Man, Wonder Man and Vision bullrush him and it does no good. Thor tries Hammer Time and is blocked and Herc gets cosmically slapped around. Iron Man yells at Black panther to grab Carina and he hesitates; but, Hank Pym grabs her (foreshadowing) and gets blasted and killed for it. hawkeye and Yondu let fly arrows and get killed. Ms Marvel attacks and gets swatted. Martinex, Black Panther and Mar-Vell seem to be killed. Everyone is going down and Cap attacks and gets a few licks in, before being hurled through a door. Iron man, Thor and Vision attack and stagger Korvac, and pour it on. He reaches out to Carina and she hesitates and he dies. Carina loses her stuff and attacks. Thor faces off against her and Mjolnir zaps her and she dies. moondragon reveals that Korvac only wanted to free humanity from Eternity and Carina truly loved him and, in dying, Michael returned the Avengers to life, though they are in critical condition. A doctor is needed, so Thor changes into Dr Donald Blake and attends to the wounded. Thoughts: Here endeth the Korvac Saga. The guy just wants to be loved, is that so wrong? (Said in Harvey Firestein's voice) Weird ending, though plenty of epic mayhem and copious amounts of death, only to be resurrected. Very messianic ending, as Korvac dies for humanity's sins, restoring the Avengers to life, while Carina joins him in cosmic suicide. It's a shame Perez didn't stay for the end; but, Dave Wenzell and Pablo Marcos turn out to be a pretty good team for this. There are way too many characters and even Shooter kind of loss track of the Guardians, until the end. After being integral to the opening, they fade quickly in the background. They don't really even protect young Vance from any threats greater than playing in the street, in the dark, with a semi truck barreling along (in a suburban neighborhood). Kind of a waste of the characters. That's kind of the problem with these things, as all of the characters end up being background filler, while a few key favorites get all of the action. In a few issues, the ridiculous number of people hanging around the mansion will be paird down, as Henry Gyrich lays down the law, from the government. These things always seem to have deus ex machina endings, which never ceases to disappoint, a bit. At least Galactus was taken down by a macguffin that the FF had to cross a universe to find, with the help of the Watcher, giving them the Ultimate Nullifier and the means to stop Galactus. Thanos always set up his own downfall, due to feeling of inadequacy, just when he achieves godhood. Korvac is no different. Tough crowd, tonight! When this was written, we hadn’t yet grown jaded by Thanos or someone else almost conquering the universe and/or reshaping reality for the hundredth time in yet another Infinity Weekly Crisis event. And Korvac being defeated by love was a very archetypal way to go, I think! This was an early “cosmic”-level adventure with more content than flash (a trait that has been lost with more recent attempts due to the need of preserving the status quo while still trying to convince customers that a new event will actually be significant). Korvac not having been a mustache-twirling villain in the end was also refreshing, especially since his enlightenment came after he gained his powers. Here’s a guy who apparently really did want to make things better, and didn’t just say he did to justify his selfish desires. A bit ruthless, to be sure, and definitely dangerous, but more layered than an Anti-monitor. My one gripe with this issue was the mandatory “everybody shoots at the villain at the same time” scene. When Thor is hitting someone with godly lightning, I don’t think that one of Hawkeye’s arrows is going to add much more than psychological support! Oh, I think Korvac was more layered than the then-norm and more than most today; but, the ending still felt rather silly and a let down, to me. I think part of the problem is that in reading the beginning, you really have expectations built for something really big and that gets pushed in the next couple of issues; then, it gets distracted and things kind of grind to a halt. You then get a couple of minor scenes to remind you that, oh yeah, there is a big bad guy lurking in the background. It then tries to pick up the threads; but, forgets half the cast, diverts things with the Collector, only to link that back to the villain. Imagine if Crisis and sent the first batch of heroes to attack the Anti-Monitor's machines, then suddenly switched back to the Monitor observing superheroes and arming supervillains, again, for several issues. That's what this feels like. I get the impression that Shooter ascending to the throne was a major interruption and they started improvising, rather than followed a definite plan, so that by the time we did get an ending, we were way off the original path. It's still a good story; but, it does have some definite weaknesses that are missing from things like the then-recent Starlin Warlock-Thanos Soul Gem Epic. That has its hiccups, too (series cancelled, Starlin ticked off by then-editors, a sort of rushed grabbing of Infinity Stones); but, it feels more deliberate. The idea of Korvac wanting love is something very different; but, the whole suburban fantasy is pretty weird; almost Gerber-esque. It kind of makes you wonder about Jim Shooter's psyche.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 27, 2018 11:26:38 GMT -5
don't forget a 'lil bit of Vance with Ms Marvel Super Mega Monkey Says...Well, that is actually a gap in my collection. I never thought much of Ms Marvel, beyond the costume. One of the few Marvel runs I don't have, in digital form; However, I have seen this story, in truncated for; so, we'll add it for completeness sake. Ms Marvel #23
Creative Team: Chris Claremont-lots of pretty words, Mike Vosburg-pretty pictures of pretty ladies, Bruce Patterson, black lines around pretty people and things, Diana Albers-all the letters in Chris' words (except one page lettered by Gaspar Saladino), George Roussos-pretty colors. Roger Stern-feels pretty, oh so pretty....... Synopsis: Carol Danvers is returning home from a night on the town, with Sam Adams. Guess the alcoholism started earlier.....oh, wait, it some dude, not a brewski..... Kind of awkward posture for the kiss; but, whatever. Carol's having a good time and invites Sam in, "for breakfast" (no one has sex in superhero comics; they just have meals). He turns her down, pleading an 8 am call time for some acting job. He will probably go home and never call her again. In the real world, they'd have sex, he'd leave, and then never call her again. Carol is still in the throes of ecstacy (minus the nookie), when there is a knock at the door. Thinking she might get some horizontal mambo after all, she answers, only to find her old, dead friend, Laure Petrie......er, Salia (Salia?) Petrie, fainting there (after some goofy dialogue) in a torn astronaut suit..... So, Carol isn't getting any from either gender, to the disappointment of some fanboys out there. She puts Salia to bed and then recaps their past together, when Carol worked for NASA. She was led to believe Salia died in a failed mission, that presaged the Columbia disaster, as she was thought to have burned up on re-entry. Carol wakes up an old NASA colleague in Houston, who gripes about the time and reaffirms Salia's death, then Salia attacks Carol with eye beams; because.....comics. Carol wakes up on Drydock, in front of a Mysterio-wannabe, with less dress sense, and Salia having raided Barbarella's wardrobe....... (ps Can you believe Jane Fonda is now 80?) Carol escapes, suits up (actuall, with her costume it is more "strips down") as Ms Marvel and makes a break for it and runs into Vance Astro, who seems oblivious to others on Drydock. This being Marvel, he attacks her, since she isn't wearing the same costume (it having been changed in a desperate attempt to prop up sagging sales). She somehow uses and electrical short to reflect back Vance's brain blast. He listens, they attack the others and find out the Faceless One is "all hat and no cattle".... Vance helps Carol destroy the mind control directing Salia and the story ends, as does the comic series. Thoughts: It's not a bad, if somewhat cliched Ms Marvel story; but, for Vance, appearance pretty much covers it. He seems to be there just because the story called for someone to be there and he could have been replaced by a dozen other characters. Claremont over-writes in some spots (big surprise); but, nothing too egregious. I think he would have had Carol and Sam bumping uglies, if he had his way; but, Comics Code. Vosburg does decent work and gives plenty of sexy shots of the ladies.... ...because, even a "feminist" superhero needs some cheesecake! Ms Marvel was a book started for all the wrong reasons (secure a trademark, to keep DC from sticking it to them, like they did to Captain Marvel and DC responded with Power Girl) and floundered from the start. Claremont upped the writing; but, never the interest, even when Ms Marvel was put in a costume that would embarrass Miss America, making her look like a swashbuckling dominatrix. The series ended here and Carol was reduced to making guest appearances and some time in the Avengers, where she was rewarded by being mind controlled and raped & impregnated, carrying the form of her rapist to term, in a matter of hours. Claremont came back to rescue her in Avengers Annual #10, after having Rogue strip her of her powers and most of her memories (but he liked the character!) and had her hang out with the X-Men, where she gets tortured and modified by the Brood and becomes Binary, and ends up hanging with the Starjammers ("We're jamming......."), before losing those powers, signing back up with the Avengers, having a few drinks too many, getting kicked off the team, then getting a writer who made her something other than a trademark placeholder and punching bag. Carol Danvers started out as an interesting character, in the original (not original) Captain Marvel stories. Her superhero days were often shaky, with flashes of good-to-great, and a lot of not-so-great, even at Claremont's hands (arguably, her best male writer). These days, she gets a lot more respect. Poor Vance; left out of the Korvac fight and reduced to sidekick, here. The dude has some pretty bad karma. Must have tortured small animals or something, as a kid.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 27, 2018 14:48:54 GMT -5
Marvel Two-in-One #61Right after the conclusion of the classic Project Pegasus storyline (and visits from the Human Torch and the Impossible Man), Thing hooked back up with the Guardians of the Galaxy, starting with Starhawk. Creative Team: Mark Gruenwald-story, Jerry Bingham-pencils, Gene Day-inks, Joe Rosen-letters, Ben Sean-colors, Jim Salicrup-editor. Synopsis: Some guys are hauling in something from the East River, which looks slightly familiar to longtime FF readers... Despite being salvaged from a massively polluted river, they guys are touching it and it feels warm, when a fiery hand bursts out of it and a figure flies away. It ends up at a loft apartment, where Ben Grimm and Alicia Masters are having a candlelight supper, after a night at the opera (minus the Marx Brothers, no doubt to Ben's disappointment). The fiery creature interrupts..... It is Her and she (not She, that's a different story) has come for Alicia, and swats away Ben a few times, before launching him across the city, then taking Alicia with Her and talks of Her creation and battle with the Hulk and the scientists who created Her. She (not She, Her) alters Herself to be like Him, and wants to find Him, so They can be Them (but not Them). Before you can say It, The Living Colossus, Ben is back at the Baxter Building, looking for help. The FF are conveniently away and the Avengers aren't home. Ben uses Reed's cosmic frammistat (his words) to spot Her and sees a trail head for the building. It turns out not to be Her or Him; but One.....Who Knows... Ben gets Starhawk to agree to help find Her and Alicia (grammar goes all to hell in this comic) and They (not Them) go out to find them (not Them). Meanwhile, Her and Alicia are in the park and are interrupted by Moondragon and Her reacts and throws a containment sphere at her (Moondragon, not Her). She (Moondragon, not She) tells Her (not...oh wait, it is Her) the he (Him) died fighting Thanos and she (Her) cannot mate with Him (oh, so she wanted to do It.......er, not It; but, you know....."It"). Her is very sad (and horny). Starhawk and Ben show up and They (not Them) fight Her, while she (Moondragon, not She) goes to warm up her spaceship. Her blasts Starhawk, and slaps around Ben, then grabs Alicia (who goes willingly, to help) and they hop in Moondragon's ship), to head off to the planetoid where Him was buried. Starhawk gets dumped in the river and Ben fishes him (Starhawk, not Him) out, to find that he was fine, protected by an energy field. Ben fails to stop the ship from leaving. He (Ben, not Him) and Starhawk (not Constantinople) will find a way to follow. Thoughts: All of these pronouns are confusing me, I need help..... Marvel really missed the boat by not having Him and Her team up to fight Them, with special guest appearing by It. Interesting, if slightly baffling set up. Essentially, Her was created as a parallel to the original Him, who became Adam Warlock, so we wouldn't have pronoun trouble. Her wants to mate with him and create the perfect It; but, he is dead and she isn't screwed. Moondragon shows up, because what is an unfulfilled woman without a bitchy friend to make her feel more miserable. Let's face it, Moondragon has always been little more than a s@#$-stirrer, in the Marvel Universe. Not a bad set up and I can't wait to see what happens. Really nice art from Jerry Bingham (under-appreciated artist, who did the excellent batman: Son of the Demon and First comics' Beowulf graphic novel) and Gene Day. Now, for the confused, this is She.... aka Ayesha, from the novel by H Rider Haggard. She would later meet Haggard's other big character, Allan Quatermain. She is short for her title, She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed. Him is Adam Warlock.... Them was a group of scientists who worked for HYDRA, who would form the basis of Advanced Idea Mechanics (AIM)... It, was a living stone monster, a statue brought to life by an alien mind (basically, a rip-off of the Jewish legend of the Golem). Originally, it was a monster in a Kirby comic, just called the Colossus. Then, Marvel adapted Theodore Sturgeon's classic story, "It," the granddaddy of all swamp monsters (ripped off by the Heap, man-Thing and Swamp Thing, not to mention Solomon Grundy, with help from the poem). It sold well and Marvel wanted an It series;but, already had a swamp monster. So, they rediscovered the Colossus, recently reprinted and redubbed him It, the Living Colossus, who got a series in Astonishing tales. No one knows if any of these characters met Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla or Rafaella Gabriela Sarsaparilla or Albert Andreas Armadillo; or, the kangaroo, aardvark or rhinoceros.
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Post by brutalis on Sept 27, 2018 16:15:42 GMT -5
You are making my head hurt codystarbuck. Not quite sure if it is from trying to understand all your word troubles or if from the laughter this post has created. Now I am certain though I will never read this issue again without laughing thanks to you!!! As an aside: I actually enjoyed seeing the Guardian's as bit players doing the out of sorts time travelers in our timeline interacting with other MU heroes. Also that they were breaking up the team somewhat and highlighting different characters or group of characters within the team seemed to make them all the more interesting.
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