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Post by brutalis on Sept 12, 2018 7:54:18 GMT -5
So here it is the 2nd week of September and I have discovered in the 108 degree temperatures of Phoenix it is Christmas time already. Most of the major store outlets like Target, Wal-Mart, Sears, Big Lot's and other such stores (including dollar marts) in the last week of August already had a Christmas aisle up. Even before setting up a Halloween aisle. The craft stores here all have much larger Christmas holiday set ups covering from 5-10 aisles of assorted decorations while Halloween/Thanksgiving are lumped together as "FALL" for a single row with little to no inventory on mostly empty pegs/shelves.
Granted with 108 temperatures it is nice to dream of cooler weather but who needs to purchase all of their Christmas decorative memorabilia in September? Hey honey, lets buy up all our holiday ensemble and put the boxes in the back bedroom or in the hallway until we put them up the day after Thanksgiving. Better yet, lets go ahead and open up all this stuff and hang it now so we don't have to worry about it later? You know Santa hasn't even finished all of his toys for delivery yet but he swings by Home Depot every week to pick up extra lights and garlands to keep those elves in the Christmas cheer.
I am not a Grinch or grump but the whole commercialism aspect for stores getting the early jump to help increase sales revenue sure does make me feel even older than I am. Stock up on your anti-depressants folks because it's gonna be a looooooong fall hay ride straight into the yellow snow pile at the end of the road...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 8:42:33 GMT -5
In my area, several stores already got the Halloween Candy out and all set up for this annual event that occurred on October 31st. When, the first week of October -- couple of stores slowly and gracefully starts getting the Thanksgiving Stuff out and all the sudden you are bombarded with Halloween and Thanksgiving Stuff. When, Halloween is over ... they go ahead a make a huge markdown of Halloween Candy as much as 50% off and then they have this sale going on the first two weeks of November. Then, they take all of it down and any candy leftover they donate it to the food banks so kids can have an unexpected treats in November. I worked at a food bank once and that stuff go out very fast and gone in a day or two. Then, Christmas and Thanksgiving stuff go on the rest of the month of November and then Thanksgiving is gone and everything associated with it is marked down 50% and people are like mad dogs trying to buy this stuff for next year and this cycle continues on. Christmas Decorations and Stuff go on full blast the day after Christmas and one thing return on an annual basis is EGGNOG and that goes out the door as fast as they stock it. My family buys it all the time and I buy a carton every 4-5 days and have a glass of it in the morning. This stuff is made available for 2-3 months - mid November to mid January and they mark it down at 50% sometimes in January and I try to buy at least 2 cartons before it's gone. It's goes on every year and this is a vicious cycle that we all endure on an annual basis. It's murder on our diets -- Candy, Thanksgiving Feast, Parties, Dinners, and Eggnog! I rest my case.
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Post by brutalis on Sept 12, 2018 10:22:29 GMT -5
Bless the day after holiday candy mark down. The thrifty person's best friend. I stock up every Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentines day and Easter. Will purchase specialty holiday goodies you won't find the rest of the year and bags of M&M's, Dove Chocolate which go into the refrigerator. Spend $20 for candy that would usually cost $40 or more makes sense to me. Nice to have it handy for when that urge hits you.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 12, 2018 10:31:21 GMT -5
Bless the day after holiday candy mark down. The thrifty person's best friend. I stock up every Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentines day and Easter. Will purchase specialty holiday goodies you won't find the rest of the year and bags of M&M's, Dove Chocolate which go into the refrigerator. Spend $20 for candy that would usually cost $40 or more makes sense to me. Nice to have it handy for when that urge hits you. I go out the day after Halloween and buy every bag of Mallo Cups that I can find. It's almost impossible to find them anywhere the rest of the year and they are my sister's favorite candy bar, so I stock up and throw a few bags her way for Christmas.
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Post by brutalis on Sept 12, 2018 12:04:10 GMT -5
Bless the day after holiday candy mark down. The thrifty person's best friend. I stock up every Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Valentines day and Easter. Will purchase specialty holiday goodies you won't find the rest of the year and bags of M&M's, Dove Chocolate which go into the refrigerator. Spend $20 for candy that would usually cost $40 or more makes sense to me. Nice to have it handy for when that urge hits you. I go out the day after Halloween and buy every bag of Mallo Cups that I can find. It's almost impossible to find them anywhere the rest of the year and they are my sister's favorite candy bar, so I stock up and throw a few bags her way for Christmas. And that is why you truly are The Captain!
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 12, 2018 21:54:00 GMT -5
25+ years in retail has long ago destroyed any meaning for Christmas, to me. Retail stores make the bulk of their annual earnings during the Holiday season. That's why the focus starts early. They want to get it going now, to offset weather or other issues upsetting things later. It's hard to make up the difference if things are bad at the start. of course, most of that is because Wall Street is the one wagging the tail of the retail dog. They want massive return on investment in the next quarter, not 5 or 10 years from now. It's symptomatic of a lot of society, though I think it drives a lot of that. Like I have said to my co-workers; I am a Charlie Bucket, in a world of Veruca Salts. Wall Street is the worst of the species.
I'm an atheist, though raised in a Christian household. The whole "Reason for the Season," just stirs me to point out all of the pagan traditions of the season, that have nothing to do with a celebration that even the Church didn't celebrate, much, until the Victorian Era. Leaving that element aside, Christmas, to me, was always about bringing a bit of fantasy into life and watching society be charmed by it and act a little better. Rampant consumerism has all but destroyed that; but, it is nothing new and the cry has gone up for generations. Rankin-Bass and Dr Seuss pointed fingers in the 60s and 70s. Stan Freberg poked fun at it with his records. There were cries from critics in the days of radio. Even Virginia had to be told that, yes, there is a Santa Claus. Problem is, his shareholders are looking for 20% growth over the previous season.
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Post by beccabear67 on Sept 12, 2018 22:45:01 GMT -5
Nooooooooo, way way way too early! But never too early for nog... I love that goop! I'm kind of tired from years in retail too of those activist geezer types who don't want you to say 'happy holidays' on anything, no 'seasons' or just 'winter'... because to them that makes you part of the 'war' on Christmas. No, just being inclusive of everyone because not every customer has to at least pretend to be Christian anymore. If I know someone and they're Christian I have wished them a Merry Christmas, but in a shop I don't know everyone's religion or lack thereof who walks in braniac junior! Maybe you never thought of it, but if I am wishing strangers happy festivities of another religion's event they might not enjoy this. So calm down there grandpa or it's going to be even more grievances on this year's festivus pole, okay? Stressful time of year, so let's add angry old dudes with chips on their shoulder to argue with people simply trying to sell stuff? I'd like to invite them to a potlatch ceremony as that's what was going on where I am hundreds of years before Columbus thought he landed in India. Inclusive, try it, it works. And yes, you can put that tree there with the Germanic decorations, nobody is offended. Clam it and have some nog!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2018 23:08:06 GMT -5
Nooooooooo, way way way too early! But never too early for nog... I love that goop! Clam it and have some nog! I liked your attitude here about nog!
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Post by brutalis on Sept 13, 2018 7:44:08 GMT -5
Nooooooooo, way way way too early! But never too early for nog... I love that goop! Clam it and have some nog! I liked your attitude here about nog! Splendid idea! Having DS9's Ferengi bartender Quark's nephew over for the holidays! Also, shouldn't there be a Monty Python bit about nog? Nog, nog, nog, nog, lovely noooog, wonderful noooog, spendiferous nooooog. Anybody want some nog, egg, bacon, nog, sausage, baked beans and nog, nog, nog, nog, nog. All done in the voice of Pinky the mouse! NOG!!!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 13, 2018 10:40:24 GMT -5
I really don't like Christmas. I'm honestly not a fan of holidays in general and my favorites tend to be those that don't stress people out and just give me a chance to put something on the smoker and relax. With my kids all grown and my grandkids 700 miles away what little meaning Christmas had is pretty much gone. It's just a reason for my wife to stress over something.
It also means I have to deal with the annual "War on Christmas" bullshit from the mouth-breathers and that makes my blood-pressure go up. The damn holiday now preoccupies the entire country for a quarter of a year but somehow the snowflakes are being oppressed.
BAH HUMBUG!
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Post by The Captain on Sept 13, 2018 11:26:30 GMT -5
I really don't like Christmas. I'm honestly not a fan of holidays in general and my favorites tend to be those that don't stress people out and just give me a chance to put something on the smoker and relax. With my kids all grown and my grandkids 700 miles away what little meaning Christmas had is pretty much gone. It's just a reason for my wife to stress over something. It also means I have to deal with the annual "War on Christmas" bullshit from the mouth-breathers and that makes my blood-pressure go up. The damn holiday now preoccupies the entire country for a quarter of a year but somehow the snowflakes are being oppressed. BAH HUMBUG! As a Christian, I'm actually happy that stores are getting away from saying "Merry Christmas" and going to the inclusive "Happy Holidays" for a couple of reasons. Thr first is that there are multiple holidays occurring at the same time and we are increasingly becoming a diverse society. If the teenager at Target doesn't say "Merry Christmas" to me, it doesn't mean Target hates Christmas but that they recognize their clientele is not necessarily of just one religious belief system. The second is that I can't stand what secular society has done to Christmas (and yes, before anyone points out that the Christians moved their holiday to the time of a pagan festival to try to combat it, I know all that already). Christmas, for Christians, is about the birth of Christ, not deep discounted electronics and toys the day aftet Thanksgiving and endless plays of "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer", so I'm OK if society as a whole wants to co-opt the holiday season for their orgy of consumerism if they leave Christ out of it. It's the tying of the two, where kids associate the word Christmas with their parents going into debt to make sure the little brats have everything on their wish list that bothers me.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 13, 2018 13:23:09 GMT -5
Christmas has always been a bother for me because of the heavy letters ( back before the late 90's) and now the heavy Packages. I always end up too tired to enjoy the holiday. My first wife had her birthday on Christmas Eve , which made it more hectic to please everyone.
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Post by hondobrode on Sept 17, 2018 10:40:40 GMT -5
I think of you lugging around the mail around that season icctrombone
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Post by brutalis on Sept 18, 2018 9:06:29 GMT -5
Amazon is now going to deliver fresh cut Christmas tree's this year. Egad's, is there nothing Amazon won't ship out to make a buck? Why do we need stores anymore? Just order everything off the internet because its convenient and easy. Hell, keep the tree in the box and you won't have to deal with all those messy pine needle droppings as the tree drys out. Day after Christmas you can just box that dead old tree up and take it out to the recycle bin...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 9:22:50 GMT -5
Amazon is now going to deliver fresh cut Christmas tree's this year. Egad's, is there nothing Amazon won't ship out to make a buck? Why do we need stores anymore? Just order everything off the internet because its convenient and easy. Hell, keep the tree in the box and you won't have to deal with all those messy pine needle droppings as the tree drys out. Day after Christmas you can just box that dead old tree up and take it out to the recycle bin... This is crazy man, I just find it "nuts" for this company to sell Christmas Trees ... It would be murder to those UPS/FED EX and even US Mail of which Icctrombone is a member of. This is totally bizarre way to make an Almighty Dollar and bring the whole Holiday Cheer to new madness -- Christmas Trees being delivered to your door.
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