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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 29, 2020 17:35:58 GMT -5
Marvel Super Special #30, Indiana Jones and the Temple of DoomNo time for love, Dr Jones! Creative Team: David Michelinie-adaptor, Jackson "Butch" Guice-pencils; Ian Akin, Brian Garvey and Bob camp-inks, John Morelli-letters, Andy Yanchus-colors, Tom DeFalco & Eliot R Brown-editors. Michelinie writing, under Shooter; don't think Kate Capshaw is going to come off well. Not that Spielberg or Lucas did much for her character. Spielberg at least put an end to the screaming by marrying her (eventually, after some counseling, after his expensive divorce from Amy Irving). Synopsis: in 1935, in Shanghai, Dr Jones enters the nightclub Obi Wan, for a meeting... His financial backer, Lao Che and he have a discussion about deals and side negotiations, while Cole Porter gets put through the wringer, in Mandarin. The singer, Willie Scott, who is Lao's squeeze, pokes her nose in, just as Indy has been poisoned. She gets threatened with a knife, a scramble for a diamond and the antidote ensues, then we break into a car chase, with a kid at the wheel. They tear through the streets, before making it to a chartered plane and a rip-off of Lost Horizon. This leads to a gag of jumping out on a rubber life raft and sledding down a mountain and into a river. Eventually, they end up in a village, where the people are starving, the animals don't give milk and the crops are dying. The Thuggee are back and have stolen their Shankara Stones and Indy is going to see the maharajah, at Pankot Palace, about it. After a night in the wild, they arrive at the palace, where Indy's reputation precedes him. They are welcomed as guests and treated to dinner, to everyone's nausea and the Indian Government's protest. Later, a thuggee tries to kill Indy and he dispatches him, then finds a secret passage to chambers below. They run into a Republic Serial deathtrap, but get out of it and discover the thuggee temple to Kali, hidden below. They discover evil sacrifices, child slave labor, and a conspiracy. Indy tries for the stones and gets caught, as do the rest. Indy gets blood dumped down his throat and is brainwashed, somehow. Willie is put in the cage to be flame broiled. The maharajah is mixed up in it. Short round wakes up Indy, they save Willie, kill the villains, grab the stones, then go free some slaves. Then, a big mine car chase and some more swipes from Republic, and a confrontation on a rope bridge. The stones are returned, along with the village's children and the white hero saves the brown people, continuing their exploitation by their European masters. Thoughts: All jokes aside, Michelinie follows the plot (Lucasfilm was very hands-on with their licenses), though there are some differences with the film, as they probably worked from the script, not the finished film. Willie runs back into the Palace, to get help, and runs into Lai, who reveals he is part of the Cult of Kali and takes her prisoner. That scene was cut from the film and we see Willie being put in the cage, after Indy has gulped the blood. Butch Guice does a nice job with the pencils and , though the inking varies, there are some really good shots, like the opening, at Club Obi Wan, which has touches of Kaluta ad Al Williamson to them. Guice is good with the action and it has the feel of the movie. There's not as much gross-out stuff, both in the dining scene and the deathtrap, as we don't get all of the bugs and creepy crawlies. So, this both captures the action of the film and avoid's some of the creepier and darker aspects. Temple of Doom is a really dark film and even Lucas has admitted that his divorce probably colored things. It is also filled with racism and stereotypes, with the dining scene being particularly offensive, though the thuggee aren't much better. The production intended to film in India; but, they objected to the script and wanted a rewrite and final edit on the film; so, the film was shot in Sri Lanka. Much of the Thuggee stuff is outright swiped from Gunga Din, while some of the early action set pieces were leftover gags from the script of Raiders of the Lost Ark. In earlier drafts, the headpiece of the Staff of Ra is in sections and Indy has to gather them. He has to hide behind a gong to avoid being shot, while obtaining one segment, and was to later escape a plane in a rubber raft, sliding down a mountain. Those were repurposed here, just as early Star wars script elements would turn up in Splinter of the Mind's Eye and the Star Wars prequels. Waste not, want not. Temple of Doom is very much in the vein of Talbot Mundy, the early 20th Century pulp novelist, who informed much of the idea of adventure fiction. His King of the Khyber Rifles and JimGrim series influenced later pulp writers, like Robert E Howard (especially his El Borak stuff) and heroes like Indiana Jones, with secret cults and forbidden knowledge. Marvel had great success with the Indiana Jones license, producing the adaptation of Raiders, the Further Adventures of Indiana Jones, from 1983-1986, this adaptation and the Last Crusade adaptation.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 30, 2020 20:46:33 GMT -5
Marvel Super Special #30, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom I thought this was the best of Marvel's three Indiana Jones movie adaptations. The Raiders one in particular kinda sucked. Temple of Doom, on the other hand, worked really well as a comic book -- great scripting and nice artwork. I missed the film at the cinema, so for a good few years this was the only Temple of Doom that I knew. It still holds up as a great comic, regardless of whether you know the film or not.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 30, 2020 21:18:01 GMT -5
Which used to be the beauty of a film novelization or comic adaptation (the good ones, at least); they gave you the experience of the film, if you missed it. the really good ones added things. The novelization for Escape From New York included more about Snake's past and his military service, plus the breakdown of society in America. Alan Dean Foster added touches in his, with things like Star Wars and Alien. The Star Trek ones used stuff either cut before filming or expanded on things. The Star Trek III adaptation included a scene of Uhura running from Federation security and taking sanctuary at the Vulcan Embassy, as Sarek turns away the Federation people and transports Uhura to Vulcan to meet Kirk and the rest, after they have found Spock. Similarly, the Star Trek 6 novel included somebackground on Valeris, linking her to Saavik
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 2, 2020 15:59:22 GMT -5
Marvel Super Special #31, The Last StarfighterCreative Team: Bill Mantlo-adapter, Brett Blevins-pencils, Tony Salmons-inks, Rick Parker-letters, Christie Scheele-colors, Tom DeFalco and Eliot Brown-editors. So, obviously, this one wasn't considered a high priority by Marvel. It was just a little space movie, with an unknown lead, from a writer-turned-director. However, Nick Castle was a damned good writer and he knew how to do a classic space opera, wish-fulfillment kind of story. Can this capture the spirit of adventure and the charm of Robert Preston & Dan O'Herlihy? Let's find out... Synopsis: Morning and the Starlight, Starbrite Trailer Park comes alive. Maggie Gordon is heading off to the lake, with friends. Louis Rogan is busy defending the galaxy from evil, with his trusty ray (dart) gun. Well, we know what Blevins was interested in drawing... Louis' brother Alex is busy playing the Starfighter arcade game, at the local grocery, where Mags catches up to him to head off with their friends and Alex turns his game over to Louis. Alex checks the mail and his friends kid him about school, but he wants more to life than beer, pick up trucks and city college. He dreams big, but his dreams are about to be shattered. His mother catches up to him, to fix the electrical hookup for Violet's trailer, so she doesn't miss her stories. The outing will have to wait. Maggie, offers to stay with Alex, but he tells her to go have fun. That is Alex's lot on life, to take care of things, while others go have fun. He carries responsibilities far beyond his years. Alex fixes the electrics and is later unwinding with the video game, when Maggie returns. Alex is mostly playing by instinct, as Maggie tries to talk with him. He laments his lot in life and wonders if he will ever get to live his dreams. Then, everyone notices that Alex is winning and racking up a record score. In a sleepy little community, this is something exciting and people start gathering around, cheering him on. It is silly, but they like Alex and want to see him do something "big." He shatters the record and defeats the game, where he destroys the mothership of the Kodan Armada, stopping them from invading the Star League. Later, Alex and Maggie sit quietly in a swing, staring up at the stars, as neighbors say goodnight. Alex's world is soon shattered, as he receives word that the bank turned down his loan application to go off to college. It seems he will never escape the things that hold him back. he storms off to be alone and ends up by the game, which is making strange noises and flashing odd lights. He looks at it carefully, when he is interrupted by a friendly voice, coming from in a high tech, fancy car. The man says he is the creator of the game and he is looking for the person who set the record. Alex tells him it was him and he motions for Alex to sit down in the car. From here, Alex's life is about to change! Amazingly, he does so and bumps into its passenger and feels sparks, as the person gets out and walks away. Something familiar about him. The man is Centauri and he takes off, with Alex inside, rattling on about seeing the best and Alex beat them all. Alex thinks the man is crazy, as he gains speed and goes into a blocked tunnel, ignoring warning signs. Alex yells as they plummet over the side to the ground below, then continues yelling as they rise into the air and speed towards the stars and beyond! They kick in stardrive and everything goes weird and the next thing Alex knows is they have landed. Centauri welcomes him to Rylos. Alex hears strange voices, speaking in weird tongues, until someone attaches something to his collar and he hears English. He finds he has been pulled into the world of the game; he has been recruited by the Star League, to defend against Xur and the Kodan Armada. It's all real! After the speech, Alex meets Grig, a navigator and tells him what has happened. They run into Centauri, who is leaving and Alex demands to return to Earth. grig tells him Alex doesn't want to be a Starfighter and Centauri is chastised for conning him. Centauri is forced to take Alex back. Beforer leaving, they see a message from Xur, son of the leader of the Star League. He tortures a spy to death, then vows to conquer Rylos. Alex definitely wants out. Meanwhile, Xur launches the attack on Starfighter Command, as he orders the ships mass drivers to hurl meteors at the base, while a saboteur, inside the base, knocks out the guns that protect the base. The meteors ome smashing in, destroying the hangar bays and the gunstar spacecraft, along with their starfighter pilots. There is no one to defend the Frontier against the Kodan Armada. Back on Earth, Centauri grumbles but gives Alex a communicator, in case he changes his mind, and drives off. Alex returns home to find Maggie mad at him. he goes inside their trailer and finds Beta, an android that mimiced him, while he was away, and acted weird around everyone. Alex learns that Xur has alien assassins out hunting for starfighters. One of them turns up on Earth, near the park and nearly hits Alex. He recalls Centauri, who arrives in time to stop the assassin. he tells Alex that he will only be safe away from there and Alex joins him; but, Centauri is badly wounded getting into the vehicle. They make it to Rylos, but at the cost of Centauri's life. Alex learns from Grig about the treachery and the loss of the starfighters. There is only one gunstar left, which Grig was working on, before the attack. Now, only he and Alex stand in the way. He tells Alex to suit up. Alex does and the pair climb aboard the sleek warship and launch. Grig takes Alex off to get a feel for the ship, whose controls match those of the arcade game. Alex soon gains the hang of it. Meanwhile, on Earth, beta continues to cover for Alex, but senses something odd, as another assassin lurks around. Alex & Grig run into advanced Xurian scouts and engage them in combat and are successful, but Alex is unnerved. Grig apologizes for forcing the situation and promises to get him safely home. They hide out in an asteroid field and compare photos of home. Alex comes to realize there is more than just his hide at stake in this fight. Thinking of home and visiting some caves gives him an idea. he and Grig hide out until the armada passes them, then attacks from the rear. It is a brilliant idea. They srprise the Kodan ships and draw them in, so that they can employ their secret weapon, Deathblossom, a multiple strike weapon. On Earth, the assassin overhears Beta confess everything to Maggie and goes to broadcast the news. Beta runs after and stops him, at the cost of his existence. Maggie realizes he was telling the truth and Alex really is off in the stars, fighting a war. Alex's gunstar is disabled, recharging after using Deathblossom. The Kodan mothership is bearing down on them. Grig works feverishly to restore power to the engines. He succeeds and Alex fires the engines, taking them out of the ship's path, then he maneuvers for a shot on the command ship and destroys it... On Rylos, Alex and Grig are hailed as heroes and he is given toe offer by the President to help rebuild the Starfighters. he also is reunited with Centauri, who was only in stasis, repairing his body. he tells him to stop thinking like an Earther; he is on Rylos. Alex says he has one thing to do, first. The residents of the trailer park are awakedned by bright lights and a roaring noise. They climb out to see what is happening and witness a spaceship landing nearby. They cautiously go over to see what is happening. A figure steps out and removes his helmet. It's Alex! Maggie hugs him as other s cheer and hurdle questions at him. he introduces them to Grig and then asks Maggie to join him....up there. Maggie is reluctant, until her grandmother tells her to go, but be sure to write...or whatever they do. Maggie leaves with Alex, on their new adventure, while Louis goes over to the Starfighter game to do his training, so he can one day join his brother and defend the Star League. Thoughts: I love this film! It came out in the summer of 1984, after I had graduated high school. I was working my job, preparing to start up in college and in ROTC, in the fall. I was excited and terrified. I was leaving home, going off on my own into an unknown world, headed for potential adventure. The movie spoke deeply to me, even at its cheesiest. It is good old fashioned space opera, like the stories of EE "Doc" Smith, creator of the Skylark series, about an Earthman who has adventures in space, in his own handbuilt spacecraft, and the Lensman saga, about the guardians of the galaxy, defending against the Boskone pirates. Smith was the granddaddy of space opera and a master. The Lensman saga greatly influenced Star Wars, especially the Jedi and the generational aspect that developed in writing Empire. Skylark was filled with tales of one man fighting baddies in space, using his wits to defeat them. Nick Castle captured that, but added his own modern hook to things and his satirical voice, writing Centauri specifically for Robert Preston, mimicing the character of Prof Henry Hill, from the Music Man. Castle assembled a great cast of veteran adult actors and neophyte young actors and the result helps smooth the rough edges of the youngsters and bring the charm of the veterans, to what seems on the surface to be lightweight material. However, as anyone who has ever dreamed of a life beyond what they see out their door can tell you, this movie is deceptively deep. Alex is a dreamer, but one who has had to live in the reality of being the responsible man of the family, after his father's death. His mother works long hours to support them and Alex is thrust into responsibilities at home and in caring for the trailer park, well beyond his years. he has a quiet leadership about him, as people respect him and want to see him succeed. he whines a bit, bit you can understand and empathize. Maggie truly loves him and wants to see him happy. However, she is also afraid she will lose him to the world beyond, as this is all she knows and she is scared. Alex is reluctant to be pulled into a war, until he understands what is truly at stake, that the war will reach Earth, eventually, if the Star League falls and he is in a position to do something about it. Alex does what a true hero does; he uses his wits and his instincts to accomplish the job in front of him. That is the essence of leadership. You do the job because it is necessary and you accept the responsibility for accomplishing it. Little did I know the life lessons I would absorb from this film, which I went to see because it had spaceships blowing each other up, and cool aliens. The music is pretty rousing, too... Composer Craig Sarafan conducts. Now, about the comic. Does it deliver the film experience? No, not really. It can't. They are just two vastly different media. Oh, the story is competently adapted by Mantlo; but, he doesn't give it the same emotional weight that an Archie Goodwin would. He basically does a by-the numbers (and formula) translation of the film script. Brett Blevins and Tony Salmon do a fine job on the art; but, it lacks the visual flair of a Walt Simonson or a Howard Chaykin. It doesn't quite capture the moodiness of an Al Wiiliamson and Carlos Garzon. It is pretty much generic Marvel, which was the standard set by Jim Shooter. It elevated the overall average sales of the Marvel line, as a whole; but, just tended to make the content that much more disposable than the mainstream already treated it. There were the noted pockets of resistance at Marvel; but, they were the very few shining beacons. Last Starfighter is caught in that web of competent, but bland, like a dinner from an MCL Cafeteria. This film adaptation needed something a bit more original and enticing, like a little upstart restaurant, that grows by word of mouth into something of an institution. Like the other later Marvel adaptations, it also appeared as a mini-series. Personally, I recommend just watching the movie. It's the real thing and the storytelling has much more spark and charm. Even at its silliest, it is pure entertainment. The computer graphics were fairly ahead of their time, though they were outdated by the following year and will look like a video game, of the 80s, now. Still, I felt that added to the charm of it, as time went on. I watch the film pretty much annually, as it takes me back to a magical time. There are comics that do the same; but, not this one.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 10, 2020 12:50:58 GMT -5
Marvel Super Special #32, The Muppets Take ManhattanThey can keep it! WHOOOOOAAA-HO-HO-HO-HO-HO.... Creative Team: Stan Kay-adaptation, Dean Yeagle & Jacqueline Roettcher-art, Jim Novak-letters, Andy Yanchus-colors, Sid Jacobsen-editor. Cover by Warren Kremer. Basically, this is the Star Comics crew. Jacobsen and Kremer were the driving force at Harvey, before it went sour. Synopsis: The senior class puts on a hit show and the audience says it should go to Broadway. Kermit contemplates this... Miss Piggy tells him that with a hit show, they'd have enough money to get married. Kermit needs to consult with Zero Mostell and tank this thing! They head to New York and stay in the lockers at the bus terminal... Kermit finds a producer who will put it on, for $300 each... The cops come for the guy and he does a runner, with Gonzo as a hostage, but Animal takes him down. Now there's your movie: Animal, PI...a Quinn Martin Production! The gang tries to find another producer with no luck. Kermit is despondent. The others realize they need to help and feign that they have found jobs. Kermit makes a vow to sell the show to bring his friends back. He gets a job washing dinners at a restaurant and gets help from a waitress who is studying fashion design. She fits him up a suit to impress the producers and he goes out again. Miss Piggy spots Kermit with the waitress and gets jealous. Kermit, with the aid of the rats who work in the restaurant (don't ask) starts a whispering campaign to sell the show. Piggy follows Kermit and the waitress to the park and then gets mugged. She subdues the mugger, then crashes into Kermit. She reminds him of when they were kids... Kermit finds a producer, a rookie who wants a chance. He is ecstatic, but is hit by a car, in the street and has amnesia. Piggy doesn't know where he is, but the producer tells her the show opens in two weeks. She sends telegrams to the gang, to help find Kermit. He has somewhat recovered and finds a job in advertising, with other frogs. The gang can't find him and are down. They stop to eat in a restaurant. In the next booth is Kermit with his advertising guys. He starts tapping out the melody of the big finale and Gonzo hears it and sees Kermit. The gang are reunited, the show is a hit and Kermit and Piggy get married. Thoughts: This was pretty much aimed at young kids, like the film, though the Muppets always had layers for the adults. Nothing spectacular, but well done. This would be followed by Marvel's Muppet Babies comc, plus a Fraggle Rock one. The movie spawned the Muppet Babies cartoon, based on Piggy's dream sequence in the film. The cartoon was a big ht and helped extend the life of the Muppets, as the show was off the air and this movie didn't perform as well as the previous two. Jim Henson turned directing duties over to Frank Oz, after having done back-to-back duties on The Great Muppet Caper and The Dark Crystal. Sadly, it would be Henson's last film, as he would pass away in 1990. Aside from Muppet Babies, the characters would take a hiatus for a time. Henson focused on Fraggle Rock and the cartoon, while also negotiating a merger with Disney. Michael Eisner wanted the Mupppets and Sesame Street; but, Henson was adamant that Sesame Street was not on the table. Disney was developing Muppet attractions for their theme parks and gained licenses to do so, though the merger talks were halted after Henson's death. They did continue to license characters for the parks and co-produced the next two films and eventually acquired the company (but not Sesame Street. This is a decent comic for kids; I don't know that adults will get as much out of it as the films. The music and the puppeteers bring a lot of life to a rather cliched story and it doesn't read as well on the page.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 12, 2020 11:33:00 GMT -5
Marvel Super Special #33Well that seems straightforward; I can't understand why it wasn't a big hit..... Creative Team: Bill Mantlo-adaptation, Mark Texeira-pencils, Armando Gil-inks, Rick Parker-letters, Ken Feduniewicz-colors, Tom DeFalco & Eliot Brown-editors Bill Sienkiewicz has a new rival for unpronounceable names. Synopsis: In the 1950s, an experiment to pass an object through solid matter, without destroying either, is sabotaged, killing Dr Masado Banzai, his wife sandra, and rocket car driver Sir Alan Motley. The tragedy is witnessed by young Buckaroo Banzai. 30 years later, Dr Buckaroo Banzai, physicist, neurosurgeon, test pilot and rock star is about to try the experiment again, with his jetcar and a newly developed oscillation overthruster... Prof Toichi Hikita oversees preparations, as everyone is waiting for the pilot, who is still in the operating theater. The doc's band, the Hong Kong cavaliers look on and check with Buckaroo about how much longer. He finishes the operation and goes off to get into his vehicle. He launches the car and accelerates, breaking the sound barrier, then heads straight at a mountain. A beam of light fires from the vehicle and it passes right through the mountain, without boring a hole... While in a strange dimension between particles, ge sees aliens who try to cling to his vehicle. He emerges from the other side of the mountain an crashes to a halt. he inspects his vehicle and finds something alien attached. he radios in and then refuses to sell his device to the military. Meanwhile, at the Trenton Home for the criminally Insane, Dr Emilio Lizardo hears a broadcast of the test and starts a frenzy of activity, while recalling an experiment of his own, in 1938, that ended in disaster. He passed into the 8th Dimension, but was grabbed by the aliens Buckaroo saw and returned changed. Now he knows that the 8th Dimension can be crossed. Buckaroo and his crew examine the specimen from the car, which resembles the carapace of a praying mantis and seems to be growing. Then, they play a gig at a club, but stops it when he spots a woman who is despondent. he asks her name and she says Penny Priddy, which Buckaroo keeps getting wrong. he sings her a song to cheer her up. It doesn't work and she tries to shoot herself in the head and misses (!!!) and the Hong Kong Cavaliers react like it was an assassination attempt. She is alive and no one is hurt and she is taken away by The Blue Blaze Irregulars, groupies of Buckaroo and the Band. Meanwhile, Lizardo escapes from the asylum and calls up one John Bigboote, to prepare to steal the overthruster. The cavaliers remark on the resemblance of Penny to Buck's late wife, and are then alerted to the escape of Dr Lizardo. Buck goes to see Penny. He hears her tale and then bails her out. He then holds a press conference about the discovery of the alien life form, but is interrupted by the president. He takes the call, gets interference and then a shock. he starts scribbling information in his palm and runs back to the conference room. He shouts out that two reporters are Red Lectroids from the 8th Dimension... Sounds like one of Trump's press conferences. Buck chases the pair and misses a third who grabs Hikita and steals the oscillator. Meanwhile, a black spacecraft, looking like a big bug, descends on Earth and is shot down by a hunter. A figure is found dead, clutching a Buckaroo comic, while another slips away. One named John Gant radios in and is ordered to self-destruct. The Red Lectroids are speeding away in a van and Buck follows, but is driven off the road. he recovers and catches up to find the van stopped and empty. he finds Hikita locked in a crate, as the Reds are talking to police, claiming that the black mass is theirs. Buck attacks, the ship blows up and he is spirited away by Blue Blaze dudes in a helo. The Cavaliers check into Yoyodyne, the name on the van, and find all of their employees are named John, all provided the same home town when they applied for their Social Security Cards and all have a birthdate of October 31, 1938, with the hometown named as Grover's Mills, NJ, site of Orson Welles' War of the Worlds radio drama. While they talk, Red Lectroids infiltrate the grounds and are followed by John Parker, the figure from the spacecraft. The Reds try to steal the jetcar. Parker 's message is seen by Byck. he is a Black Lectroid, sworn enemy of the reds and he explains that the reds' leader, John Whorfin, replaced Lizardo and came through in 1938. Buck runs to get his guns, while Reds attack Hikita. Buck runs into Penny and explains that Peggy, his late wife, was her long lost twin. The Reds break in and grab Penny, while Buck and the others fight. the Reds escape in a helo. Parker meets Buck face to face and the go after them. Buck breaks into Yoyodyne, but gets caught. Whorfin is about to open a passage to allow the Reds out, to conquer. Buck is tortured for the secrets of the oscillator, but the Cavaliers arrive and attack. Whorfin goes to escape in his ship and Buck chases... Whorfin's shift accelerates and smashes through the wall, but does not enter the 8th Dimension. Buck and Parker follow in a Black lectroid craft and blast Whorfin. Buck parachutes to safety after his craft is stricken, in the blast. Penny is near death, but a kiss from Buck passes a spark that brings her back from the edge and she awakens and embraces Buckaroo. Thoughts: I've tried to watch this movie twice and have never gotten past the scene of Buckaroo meeting Penny. The screenwriter, Eric Mac Rauch, was a young novelist who was from Dartmouth, as was director WD Richter. When his debut novel got good reviews, Richter's wife brought it to his attention and he corresponded with Mac Rauch and struck up a friendship. He encouraged Mac Rauch to become a screenwriter. this was the result, after numerous aborted attempts at a script. And herein lies the problem, for me. the story is pretty complex and confusing and it probably plays better on the page than it did on film. Audiences seem to agree, as the film was a failure, earning back only about half its budget and getting mostly bad to middling reviews, though it got a few good ones. it developed a cult following, especially on home video. It should be right up my alley, since it features a Doc Savage type; but, the story is all over the place and Peter Weller was so low key as to be boring, for me. Of the Cavaliers, Clancy Brown was the only one I cared for, as Goldblum doesn't do much early on. I just got too bored to continue. Maybe someday I will try again and get through it. Bill Mantlo isn't exactly a writer I would turn to for complex stories, though his work on Rom puts this kind of up his alley. Mostly, he seemed to always be available. Mark Texeira had been around for a little while, but hadn't yet made a name for himself with Ghost Rider. He's a rather stylized artist, which I have found both off-putting and engaging, depending on the project. He'as at home with the weird alien stuff and the tech, but, I don't think he brings much to the human characters. This wouldn't have gotten me to watch the film any more than the trailer did (I recall ads for the film, but passed). The concept and character would make for a great series, with a clearer eye to storytelling and a bit more character development. It's also not as funny as it wants to be. I think a John Carpenter or Sam Raimi could have done wonders with it; stripped it down to the essential stuff. There is nothing bad about the comic; but, it doesn't improve on the material, either. It just sort of lays there, much like the Last Starfighter adaptation or the Krull one. At least those films had performances to help bring them to life; the comics don't have that luxury. Next time, it's Sheena, based on the god-awful film with the never been good Tanya Roberts and her squeaky voice. Marvel at least has an ace up its sleeve for that one.
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Post by brutalis on Aug 12, 2020 12:47:59 GMT -5
Yeah, you either like Buckaroo or you hate it is the response I most get. As a crazy Doc Savage, Shadow kind of wild mash-up throwback movie it is a fun ride. It is an acquired taste, but I love it as much as Streets of Fire for doing and being it's own uniquely different adventure.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 12, 2020 13:24:48 GMT -5
Yeah, you either like Buckaroo or you hate it is the response I most get. As a crazy Doc Savage, Shadow kind of wild mash-up throwback movie it is a fun ride. It is an acquired taste, but I love it as much as Streets of Fire for doing and being it's own uniquely different adventure. Streets of Fire is the movie I nearly walked out of. I saw the music video for "Tonight is What It Means to be Young," which is all kinds of Jim Steinman epic awesomeness and the trailer. It sounded up my alley; but, Michael Pare has the acting talent of a plank of wood, only less charisma. It was one thing when he was annoying Mr H, on the Greatest American Hero; it was another to pay good money to hear him deadpan mumble his lines. If it weren't fro Amy Madigan and Willem Dafoe (and Rick Moranis, to a lesser extent) that film would be nothing but a really great soundtrack and a mess of a story. The 50s look is also at odds with the 80s music video styling. Hell of a sountrack, though. You don't often get The Fix, The Blasters, and Ry Cooder. New Wave, Rockabilly, doo-wop and rock opera make for a strange, but enticing mix. Like I say, I think Buckaroo Banzai probably works better as a novel (Rauch wrote the novelization), where you have time to absorb things, vs film, where you have a lot of characters standing around saying a lot of things that don't make a lot of sense. I think it would have worked better if they had pushed the comedy up a notch, so that it was more like Sam Raimi's Darkman, or John Carpenter's Big Trouble in Little China, or like Verhoeven & Weller in Robocop. I think I would have been more tolerant of the overly-written plot, had it seemed like the characters had more of a personality. AS I said above, Clancy Brown was the only one I found interesting, in the amount I watched. No matter what he is in, he is always memorable. Highlander only works because of him and Sean Connery, and I would lay more of it in his lap than Sean's.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 14, 2020 0:40:51 GMT -5
Well, I watched the entirety of the movie, tonight; but, I can't say it's changed my opinion much. I think it is mostly a good concept in search of a better story; certainly a clearer one. Not particularly impressed with the performances or the direction. I note that Richter only directed one other movie and his writing credits are a mixed bag. Brubaker and Home for the Holidays are good films; but, they bear the stamp of their directors; so how much was his script is hard to say. Earl Mac Rauch didn't exactly set the world on fire as a screenwriter or novelist. I find it interesting that he didn't pursue the proposed sequel in novel form, at least. Buckaroo Banzai vs the World Crime League sounded far more interesting. Mantlo must have been working from the script, because he references them and Hanoi Xan, which was cut out of the theatrical film, though it sounds like the production company's bankruptcy was part of the reason.
I find it has a few problems. Most of the characters are pretty thinly sketched, including Buckaroo. The script is overly convoluted and the dialogue is not particularly funny or intriguing, except in certain parts. It feels like a lot of fits and starts. Goldblum and Clancy Brown seem a bit wasted, to me, given their talents. Mostly, I don't think they have great dialogue or a sense of character to deliver in the film. Goldblum probably succeeds a bit more; but not to the level in his other films. Weller I have generally found to be a rather dull actor, outside of Robocop and I have that down to his laconic delivery being perfect for delivering the gonzo lines in that film, much as Adam West's delivery in Batman made that stuff work (for a while). Plus, Verhoeven knew how to shoot a film.
I like the idea of a new age Doc Savage; just don't think they captured it, no matter how many references to Thomas Pynchon they threw into it. I think it needed to be more arch and lively to really deliver. Richter wrote the screenplay for Big Trouble in Little China, which I think hits the right pulpy/campy mix that makes it work, though a lot of that is John Carpenter (and Kurt Russell and the rest of the cast). Maybe with a director like Carpenter or Verhoeven this really could have been something. Sam Raimi also did a better job of capturing pulp sensibilities in Darkman, which feels like a cross between The Shadow and The Spider, with a bit of The Avenger.
I did note, with amusement, Carl Lumbly playing an alien who masquerades as a human (with a pretty bad Jamaican accent), given that he voiced Martian Manhunter on Justice League (and starred in the short-lived MANTIS tv series).
The use of the LA Aqueduct was typical, as it seems filmmakers love using it and the LA River basin, with things like T2, Grease, and Escape From New York, which combined it with footage shot at Liberty Island, for the USPF prison control station.
I find that Once Upon a Time in China V to present a better version of a Doc Savage hero and his assistants. Wong Fei Hung is the Doc character; kung fu master, healer, diplomat, and defender of the weak. He is surrounded by his group of assistants, who each have their own fighting specialty, though they are played more for comedic effect (though that was the purpose of Monk and Ham, in Doc Savage).
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 15, 2020 17:21:33 GMT -5
Marvel Super Special #34, SheenaTanya Roberts and Ted Wass, together on screen; how was this not a huge hit? I mean, look at their combined film careers: Curse of the Pink Panther, Oh God, You Devil, Bodyslammed, Hearts and Armour. Can anyone else present a film resume of this stature? Creative Team: Cary Burkett-adaptation, Gray Morrow-art, Janice Chiang-letters, Bob Sharen-colors, Danny Fingeroth-editor. Thank Eisner that Morrow is here, so at least someone can salvage something from this mess. Ten years and that was the best they could produce. Irish McCalla it ain't! Synopsis: Dr Phillip Ames, wife Betsy and daughter Janet come to a hidden spot, somewhere in Africa, where the witness proof that soil in the area possesses healing properties.... The adulta are killed in a cave in and Janet is raised by the Zambuli tribe, as Sheena, which translates as "She-Devil who will try to steal our land and resources." She is raised by the shaman and learns the ways of nature and how to have rapport with the animals, including the snakes, who are taught not to squeeze the shaman. Sheena becomes a keen archer and horse...er, zebrawoman. The villain enters the story, revealing that the Zambuli sit on un-mined titanium deposits. He is brother to the king and plots his murder. He kills his accomplice, to keep the geological survey quiet, then arranges for an old college friend, a sports reporter to come with his cameraman, to provide the perfect alibi. The shaman has visions of danger and destruction and leaves Sheena to go into the city, but finds herself arrested. Turns out, the king's intended bride is the mastermind behind the murder plot and the arrest. The shaman uses the force to call Sheena, who races to her aid. The murder plot goes down, as a remote rig fires a Zambuli arrow into the king, killing him. The shaman is brought in by the police to be Oswald. The camera had jammed and examination of the jammed film reveals the device that fired the shot. They go to investigate, while Sheena orchestrates a jailbreak... Vic, the reporter, saves her from a guard and she leaves with the shaman. They follow in a land rover. The prince organizes the military to hunt them down and Vic and his buddy catch up to Sheena, and we get that horribly acted scene above... The shaman dies, Vic tells Sheena his has proof of her innocence and soldiers approach. Fletch, the cameraman, heads back to the city, while Vic makes time with Sheena. They head for the Zambuli village, but find it massacred. Sheena goes ape... They get cornered by a gunship and Sheena surrenders to save the animals from slaughter and delivers us a typical moment in jungle girl comics, the heroine in bondage... Vic bargains witht he prince and Sheena is taken away in the helo by the countess, to be murdered. She summons flamingoes which attack and Sheena escapes and rallies the Zambuli to fight with bows and arrows against automatic weapons. Vic suckers his minder, on the way to retrieve the incriminating film and Sheena's army of archers and animals attack the soldiers. Apparently, no one with an automatic weapon can shoot straight or pop in another magazine. Sheena kills the prince and saves Vic, but he is badly burnt in the explosion. The healing earth......heals him and they fly off home. Sheena then goes to her sorority reunion, with Rima, Nyoka, Camilla, Ayesha, Fantomah, Jann, Judy, Lorna, Pantera Bionda, Princess Pantha, Rulah, Shanna, Taanda, and Jana, with Lady Jane Greystoke signed as the guest speaker. Thoughts: Ridiculously cliched story that is greatly elevated by Gray Morrow's art, which didn't help the film. The film landed like Little Boy on Hiroshima, earning only 1/5 of its budget. It was nominated for 5 Golden Raspberry awards and came from the same writer and director as the King Kong remake and Pauline Kael seems to be the only critic who liked both films (the Kong remake is okay, if rather dull, though I don't find the original to be that great), Tanya Roberts has all the acting skill of a slug, but with a squeakier voice and Ted Wass was better on tv, on Soap. The film has a cult following, for people who like to mock bad acting (which is any Tanya Roberts film). As a comic, separate from the film, it looks nice; but the story is tired and cliched. It steals from everything from Tarzan, to Dogs of War, the Kennedy Assassination and just about anything else not nailed down.Morrow had done the Tarzan comic strip, so at least he knew what he was doing. Wish he would have written his own story, though. Next, Arnold oils up his pecs and is made to look like Olivier, thanks to Grace Jones and Wilt Chamberlain (hell, Grace is Merle Oberon, compared to Wilt Chamberlain). Come on back for Conan the Destroyer, which I still think should have had Conan donning a white mask and entering the world of professional wrestling, in Aquilonia! Debbie Harry would have liked it! (Doctor X is a name Dick Beyer used in the AWA, where he was their world champion, rather than use his Destroyer mask and name, for whatever reason.)
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Post by tonebone on Aug 17, 2020 16:25:32 GMT -5
Marvel Super Special #16Is that a cover or what? Creative Team: Archie Goodwin-writer/Editor, god among men; Al Williamson and Carlos Garzon-art, Rick Veitch (year, as in Rorin' Rick)-letters, Glynis Wein-colors Based on some film, with script by Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan, with George Lucas kibbitzing and retroactively claiming he had this all mapped out. Synopsis: Archie pares the title crawl down to the essence of things... Luke Skywalker is out riding his snow kangaroo, freezing his Death Stars off, when he spots a meteor land. he radios new old buddy Han Solo that he is going to check it out. He then gets smooshed by a refugee from a Rankin_Bass special. A sinister looking droid (way more than in the movie) rises out of the creator and goes to find Dr Zin's spider robot, to get an autograph. Han Solo arrives back at base, where Chewie is doing all of the work and getting substandard wages. he bellows at Han to get his hairless butt up there and give him a hand. He goes and reports in, then banters with Leia, who says she would rather kiss a wookie and Chewie's day looks like it might improve. They just miss seeing a yeti bust through a wall... Luke is just hangin' around, noting to do but frown, rainy days and ice planets always get him down. He TKs his lightsaber and cuts himself loose from the ice gravity boots and then cuts himself a slice of yeti. he then stumbles off into a snowstorm. Threepio bitches at Artoo, since he is Drama Queen of the Galaxy. He tells Han that Luke hasn't reported in. Han harangues a real soldier, who says I don't take orders from you, Mr Disposable Cup. Han goes hunting for Luke, who is playing in the snow and sees Ben Kenobi, with a new hair piece. Ben says he must go to the Dagobah System. Well, sounds better than the Nutrisystem. Han finds Luke, just as his snow kangaroo dies and uses Luke's saber to clean it out and stuff Luke into it, while he builds a pup tent. He then says something about them smelling bad on the outside, though Han hasn't changed his clothes in 3 years. Artoo uses a mini-radar and finds nothing and Leia locks them out of the house. The next morning, the rebels locate them, with a snow speeder, flown by Edwina Monsoon's gay ex-husband (that's for you Ab-Fab fans). They bring Luke home and give him a bath and then Artoo spots a yeti and the Rebels shoot him and his litter-mates. The rebels spot a signal and send out a team to investigate. The spider robot is IDed as an Imperial Probe Droid and Han blasts it. the Rebels change their shorts. Meanwhile, up in space, the baddest dude in the Galaxy is about to make an entrance... It's total brown trouser time on Hoth and the rebels search for a heated latrine. Threepio and Artoo taunt some caged wampas, then go find the others. Luke's post-Corvette face is revealed and then he and Leia suck face, since they aren't siblings or anything. Han shows up and Leia says something about him collecting foam footballs and then kisses Luke aain. The Imperial fleet moves out of hyperspace and finds an energy shield around their target ad Vader administers a reverse Heimlich to Admiral Ozzel. Captain Piet is now in charge, by gum. 'Bout time a Yorkshireman got command! Leia briefs Rebel pilots and tells them they are cannon fodder so that the headquarters unit can get the steaks and beer loaded on a transport and di-di mau back further into the rear echelon. She flips Han the bird and heads off. The Rebels fire a big stun gun and send off a transport, loaded with Leia's haircare and braiding products. Luke joins the other pilots in snow speeders to go joyriding. He tells his red Shirt to strap in. Julian"No relation to Crispin" Glover leads the universe's worst combat vehicle design towards the shield generator, at a slow ponderous walk, rather than sending TIE fighters in to strafe it from the air. The Rebels fire their .50 cals at them and then run like little girls. the snow speeders ignore the obvious target and fire at the armored hides, until Luke tells them what to do. Wasn't he a farm boy last week? Luke's incredible flying skills get his tailgunner killed. Han corrals Leia and tells her to beat feet, as Luek tels Wedge to use a big tripline on the Walkers. They then blast the downed walker, that is suddenly not armored and blows up. Julian Glover destroys the generator, then considers adopting an American accent for his next role. Marvel interrupts us to advertise Bizarre Adventures and some chick in a snow bikini. Luke crashes his speeder. He gets his lightsaber and a harpoon gun and slices open the belly of a walker and destroys it with one little hand grenade. Han gets Leia on the Falcon and they take off before dart Vader can get there. Han plays chicken with Star Destroyers, while Luke tries to read a map to find Dagobah, while balancing a Big Gulp and a donut. Artoo complains because he wouldn't stop at a Stuckeys and get a pecan log roll. Han leads TIE fighters into an asteroid field and Adm Piett reports to Darth "I need some Bactine" Vader... Han finds a cave to hide in, while Luke lands in Louisiana and meets up with Grover. Han molests Leia and she likes it (pre-MeToo) and then they discover they are hiding inside a big mouth and it aint Martha Rae. Vader Face Times with Clive Revel and Luke figures out that grover is actually the Jedi master, Yoda. Yoda throws bars for Luke to slice up... then makes him go on long runs through the jungle ("Runnin' through the jungle with my M-16; I'm a mean nerfherder, I'm from Tatooine!") They then mess around with mushrooms.... Yoda pulls Luke's ship out of the bayou and makes some etouffee. Darth Vader briefs some bounty hunters and Boba Fett shows who is the second baddest man in the galaxy, without actually doing anything. You know, he never really does much in his two appearances. Han goes on a chicken run and the Falcon disappears from their view, because he latched onto the hull, which has no sensors to detect the change in mass or CCTV cameras to search for hull damage, or anyone on the other side hear a big clang as it latches on. The Imps dump their garbage (thing of space ecology, man!) and te Falcon floats off with it, followed by Elephant Head-1. Han goes to Bespin to find an old buddy. At Bespin, Han comes in to land on the floating prison above the Imperial homeworld of Alderaan....wait, that was the earlier draft of Star wars. Flash Gordon lands on the floating city of the Hawkmen.....the Falcon lands on Cloud City. Billy Dee Williams greets him and tosses him some malt liquor. Threepio lags behind and gets blasted (see what happens when you dawdle, kids?) Luke fights Vader in a tree cave, but its himself, 'cause he could become like Vader. Han and Leia go to diner and are seated next to the guy with asthma. Luke has a bad dream and leaves Yoda. Han gets waterboarded. Billy dee tells the bald guy from those two Avengers episodes and Flash gordon that the deal keeps getting worse. Han tells of Billy Dee, then Vader turns him into a popsicle. Leia tells Han she loves him and he acts all cool. Chewie howls. Luke lands, gets herded to the freezing room and throws down with Darth Vader. Billy Dee doublecrosses the Imps and nearly gets choked out by Chewie. They head for the Falcon. Luke and Vader have a Tosche Station Death Match and Luke loses a hand. Maury Povich turns up and says Vader is Luke's father. Luke jumps and ends up on a weather vane. Boba Fett flies off with Han, Leia and Billy Dee take the Falcon, rescue Luke and escape Vader. Luke sees Rudy Wells and gets a bionic hand and Billy Dee borrows a change of clothes from han's locker and he and Chewie head off to spend three years trying to catch up with Han. Marvel craps itself because the best character is taken off the table. Marvel makes a lot of posters of this image... Thoughts: Fantastic adaptation of the movie, with some bonuses that show the value of a comic adaptation for movies that delete lots of scenes. The adaptation was based on the screenplay and includes many of the deleted scenes and subplots, including the wamp ice creatures getting inside the Rebel base, them getting loose and kicking stormtrooper butt, some more of Luke's training, and Luke getting his bacta bath. Archie Goodwin is the best Star Wars writer, of all time. No qualifying; he just is. He understood what to do with the property and wrote far better adventures than anyone at Lucasfilm, Marvel or any of the prose hired guns. Archie knows this kind of stuff inside out and he made the Star Wars comics hits, both at Marvel and in newspapers. He fleshed out characters, gave them cool new villains and gave us better characters (Valance) than Lucas. He also knows how to do an adaptation, as he had done one of the best ever, the Alien adaptation, for Heavy Metal (with old partner Walt Simonson). This time, Marvel is able to use the likenesses and Williamson and Garzon (Garzon did a lot of the heavy lifting on their Star Wars collaborations) make them look like the actors, which really helps this come alive. They provide the visual excitement of the battles and the chases, capture the emotions of the quiet moments and add little extra touches. They do get Yoda a bit wrong in scale, probably based on conceptual designs, as he looks more like those drawings that the Muppet. I had the paperback book version of this, though later scored the Treasury Edition, which is the best way to view the art. This film is where George Lucas created a saga. Star Wars was always a standalone film, with no real story to continue. Vader surviving was a last minute decision. The writing of the script for Empire changed everything. Leigh Brackett, author of dozens of planetary romance novels, the scripts for The Maltese Falcon and Rio Bravo, wrote the first draft. It features Luke's father and Darth Vader as separate characters. The father appears to Luke on dagobah. Lucas didn't like the first draft; but, despite his claims, the bulk of the plot is there. Brackett was suffering from cancer and was pretty much dying and did the one draft. Lucas brought on Lawrence Kasdan, who had done the Raiders script. Together, they worked on the second draft and tried to sort out some narrative problems. they hit upon the idea to combine Luke's father with Vader and shift some of the father's Dagobah stuff to Ben Kenobi and they were off to the races. That was the point where Darth Vader became the center of the saga, after just being conceived as a henchman in Star Wars. Eeything stems from that one decision, then Lucas spent the next 40 years trying to retrofit that into Star Wars. Remember kids, Han didn't shoot first; he shot only! Your images were from a "remastered" version of the adaptation, because in the original, not only is Yoda out of scale, but he is skinny and purple and smoking a Leprechaun pipe.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 17, 2020 18:30:12 GMT -5
Your images were from a "remastered" version of the adaptation, because in the original, not only is Yoda out of scale, but he is skinny and purple and smoking a Leprechaun pipe. In the U.S., it's only the paperback-sized "Marvel Illustrated Books" version (which was the first version of the adaptation ever published) that features the purple, white-haired Yoda. This version of the character was based on Ralph MacQuarrie's concept art. The 1980 magazine version (which Cody is reviewing), the treasury edition, and the issues of Marvel's Star Wars comic that featured the ESB adaptation all featured the re-drawn, green Yoda, as seen in cody's scans. Also, Yoda isn't smoking a pipe (which would've been cool), he's eating one of Luke's food concentrate sticks. You can read more about this in my reviews here and here.
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Post by tonebone on Aug 18, 2020 8:33:03 GMT -5
Once again, this thread made my day! The coffee is a bit hard to clean from the monitor, but that's a price I'm willing to pay. Keept it up, cody!!! Marvel Super Special #27 That one I read in its miniseries form, with interspersed pin-ups and/or extra art by other hands than Williamson's and Garzon's. I didn't understand why the story wasn't adapted in the regular comic, hopefully over the course of six issues, as the original Star Wars had been... in hindsight, I guess it was a matter of making as much money as possible. I think that's what's referred to as a data dump. That's your sister, Luke!!! You're not a %$? Targaryen!!! Love him as I do, I never got Jean-Claude Mézières' anger at Leia's costume... Iron bikinis were already all the rage way back in Margaret Brundage's time, and everyone from Alex Raymons to Barry Smith by way of Wally Wood could truthfully say "been there, drew that". "I know... somehow, I've always known". Really leia? And your were still cool with it? I'm feeling uncomfortable now. I never quite understood the love fans had for Bobba Fett. Yeah, he had a cool helmet and his doll was popular, but the only time he got to do anything on screen was in the Holiday Special... I didn't understand why he was seen as important, nor why Vader didn't treat him like s#it like he did everybody else. Word!!! Yeah, this myth that Lucas had it all planned out is pretty much shattered by these two books... they tell the story of the making of the movies via journals, interviews, and Telexes, which were like primitive email. The whole sister thing was a plot patch for the mysterious line "There is another", which was thrown in without really knowing what the end game would be. The books are REALLY dry and clinical, but I found them interesting.
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Post by tonebone on Aug 18, 2020 8:37:18 GMT -5
Your images were from a "remastered" version of the adaptation, because in the original, not only is Yoda out of scale, but he is skinny and purple and smoking a Leprechaun pipe. In the U.S., it's only the paperback-sized "Marvel Illustrated Books" version (which was the first version of the adaptation ever published) that features the purple, white-haired Yoda. This version of the character was based on Ralph MacQuarrie's concept art. The 1980 magazine version (which Cody is reviewing), the treasury edition, and the issues of Marvel's Star Wars comic that featured the ESB adaptation all featured the re-drawn, green Yoda, as seen in cody's scans. Also, Yoda isn't smoking a pipe (which would've been cool), he's eating one of Luke's food concentrate sticks. You can read more about this in my reviews here and here. Ha! You're right about the not-pipe... I have seen it as a pipe for 40 years! I had no idea they revised the art so quickly... I thought that was done for a re-release years later, for the special edition movies. I only have the paperback.
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Post by codystarbuck on Aug 18, 2020 21:31:58 GMT -5
This is a pretty exhaustive examinations of things, from beginning to end, with tons of contemporary sources to detail how things changed across script drafts. It draws upon things like Dale Pollock's Skywalking, a bio of Lucas, where he had total access to George & Marcia Lucas and their friends and Lucas archives. Lucas disowned it after release, because it tends to paint the picture of an emotionally distant man, with some deep neuroses, who was am excellent businessman first, but kind of lost sight of the youth who wanted to make all kinds of experimental and groundbreaking films, in pursuit of getting one film made, that took over his life. Skywalking is one of the best pictures of Lucas you will find, because his friends talked about him, too, and you get an insight into his formative years, in Modesto, his time in film school, the early Zoetrope days, making American Grafitti and THX 1138 and his battles with the studio over them, which would inform his desire to be independent of the studio system. Secret History uses interviews from Starlog, The Star Wars Poster Magazine, The Fan club newsletter in its various incarnations, Time, Newsweek, other magazines and newspapers, the Annoted Screenplays, the Making of Star Wars and so on and so on. It illustrates what he said in 1977 and 1978 vs what he said in 1980, 83, 97, and after. It shows how things radically changed across the various Star Wars script drafts, from an outright copy of Hidden Fortress, to drawing scenes and inspiration from it. There are the drafts with a whole family of "Starkillers," and a General Luke Skywalker. There is Prince Valorum and The Knights of the Sith. There is Mace Windu and the Kaiburr Crystal. Those discarded names and plot ideas never fully got tossed aside, as he would pick out things when trying to craft plots for subsequent films. The real change comes betwee the 1st and 2nd draft of Empire. As written by Leigh Brackett, Luke's father and Darth Vader are still separate people. Scenes on Dagobah feature Father Skywalker talking with Luke. Lucas wasn't happy with the draft, but Brackett was dying of cancer and passed away before they could discuss rewrites. Lawrence Kasdan was brought in and they hit upon the idea of combining Fatheer Skywalker and Vader, to solve some story issues. Father Skywalker's scenes on Dagobah got shifted to Ben and Yoda and it helped beef up Vader's role, after just being the henchman in the first film. I've been re-reading it and am up to Jedi, which went through a bunch of changes, too, as they started out with 2 Death Stars and the forest moon orbited the Imperial capital, Luke is taken to the Emperor's fortress, deep under the city, with lava pools around it and Vader is being kept out of the loop by Moff Jerjerodd. Leia wasn't the "other," as that was a red herring to sugegst Luke might not win, in Empire; but, Lucas was losing desire to continue beyond Jedi and his marriage was falling apart. So, Leia made a quick fix to resolve the subplot/ According to Gary Kurtz, they had previously talked about introducing a twin sister in the sequel trilogy, where she and Luke would take down the Emperor, who would stay in the background in the original, which would end with the death of Vader. Lucas was making it up as he went; but, in doing so, he'd go back to discarded material from the original film. I guess that is his justification for saying he had a rough outline of the story in his head; but, that mostly means he had a rough outline for the original story he wanted to tell and had to alter it and pick up bits and pieces later, instead of creating new adventures, as was the original plan, ala the Bond films.
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