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Post by rberman on Feb 12, 2019 11:47:22 GMT -5
I've long thought there something superheroish about The Monkees. Four happy go lucky, adventuresome kids who become a phenomenon overnight. The world loves them. Suddenly, they're branded as frauds for reasons beyond their control. The world jeers them. They go out and prove that they can duplicate the powers which were given to them when working just by themselves and a public unaware of the facts continue to regard them with cynicism. Cut to today when hey, people realise that these guys really were something extraordinary after all.  MonkeeMen in Kingdom Come Wait - wut??! Okay, so, firstly, I love the Monkees. The albums (from the first LP to the wonderful Good Times!), the series, Head, Nesmith's solo stuff, all of it. Every alternate take and obscure track that Rhino wants to release, I'm all for it. I saw 'em in concert a few years back (the Dolenz/Tork/Jones iteration); heck, I've even seen Mickey Dolenz perform at a military academy in the middle of rural Indiana (he was fantastic, btw). Secondly, I love Kingdom Come. Have read it multiple times. I have assigned and taught it in my American Superheroes class at my university. Heck, I've even had Mark Waid as a guest in my class specifically to discuss Kingdom Come. But I did not realize until this moment that he and Alex Ross snuck the freaking Monkeemen into that book! You just cured my crappy morning with this post chadwilliam - thanks! I am definitely not up on my Monkees lore; I had to look this one up.  |
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Post by chadwilliam on Feb 12, 2019 12:13:26 GMT -5
I've long thought there something superheroish about The Monkees. Four happy go lucky, adventuresome kids who become a phenomenon overnight. The world loves them. Suddenly, they're branded as frauds for reasons beyond their control. The world jeers them. They go out and prove that they can duplicate the powers which were given to them when working just by themselves and a public unaware of the facts continue to regard them with cynicism. Cut to today when hey, people realise that these guys really were something extraordinary after all. MonkeeMen in Kingdom Come Wait - wut??! Okay, so, firstly, I love the Monkees. The albums (from the first LP to the wonderful Good Times!), the series, Head, Nesmith's solo stuff, all of it. Every alternate take and obscure track that Rhino wants to release, I'm all for it. I saw 'em in concert a few years back (the Dolenz/Tork/Jones iteration); heck, I've even seen Mickey Dolenz perform at a military academy in the middle of rural Indiana (he was fantastic, btw). Secondly, I love Kingdom Come. Have read it multiple times. I have assigned and taught it in my American Superheroes class at my university. Heck, I've even had Mark Waid as a guest in my class specifically to discuss Kingdom Come. But I did not realize until this moment that he and Alex Ross snuck the freaking Monkeemen into that book! You just cured my crappy morning with this post chadwilliam - thanks! That's great to hear and you're very welcome! Hopefull, this'll get you through your afternoon. Second page, first panel, bottom left hand corner - Micky Dolenz. Same panel, above right to second text box - Mike Nesmith. Below him - Davy Jones and below Davy and to his left - Peter Tork (though he kind of looks like Peter Noone to me)  There's a photo of Alex Ross at his drawing table and right in front of it is a giant photo of The Monkees. Knowing that every time Ross looked up from his drawing board he was looking at The Monkees convinced me that he's a cool guy. Oh, and The Beatles also make an appearance in Marvels at Reed Richards/Sue Storm's wedding.  |
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Post by Mister Spaceman on Feb 12, 2019 12:41:12 GMT -5
Wait - wut??! Okay, so, firstly, I love the Monkees. The albums (from the first LP to the wonderful Good Times!), the series, Head, Nesmith's solo stuff, all of it. Every alternate take and obscure track that Rhino wants to release, I'm all for it. I saw 'em in concert a few years back (the Dolenz/Tork/Jones iteration); heck, I've even seen Mickey Dolenz perform at a military academy in the middle of rural Indiana (he was fantastic, btw). Secondly, I love Kingdom Come. Have read it multiple times. I have assigned and taught it in my American Superheroes class at my university. Heck, I've even had Mark Waid as a guest in my class specifically to discuss Kingdom Come. But I did not realize until this moment that he and Alex Ross snuck the freaking Monkeemen into that book! You just cured my crappy morning with this post chadwilliam - thanks! That's great to hear and you're very welcome! Hopefull, this'll get you through your afternoon. Second page, first panel, bottom left hand corner - Micky Dolenz. Same panel, above right to second text box - Mike Nesmith. Below him - Davy Jones and below Davy and to his left - Peter Tork (though he kind of looks like Peter Noone to me) There's a photo of Alex Ross at his drawing table and right in front of it is a giant photo of The Monkees. Knowing that every time Ross looked up from his drawing board he was looking at The Monkees convinced me that he's a cool guy. Oh, and The Beatles also make an appearance in Marvels at Reed Richards/Sue Storm's wedding. Ah, the wool hat! Now I'll never not see it. And the Beatles in Marvels is pretty great too. I know putting famous folks (or comic industry pals) into the background is a longstanding practice in comics, but something about slipping the MonkeeMen into Kingdom Come is especially pleasing (probably in part for the reasons you so nicely expressed regarding the Monkees as quasi-superheroes in and of themselves). Good stuff! |
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Post by berkley on Feb 15, 2019 23:23:05 GMT -5
Did we check Black Sabbath off the list with Iron Man or Crash Test Dummies for Superman Song? Also Blondie (sort of named for a comic strip though they say something about construction workers hollering at Debbie) they mention Brenda Starr in Rip Her To Shreds... comic artist Mike Grell worked on Brenda Starr early on. Does Black Sabbath's Iron Man really count, do you think? From the lyrics - and I'd have to say, even the music - I never felt any connection between the song and the Marvel character.
Of course, Marvel or its parent company decades later had enough money to buy the right to use the song in one of their Iron Man movies but that's beside the point, I'd say.
Mind you, I was wondering myself here not too long ago why they hadn't used Alice Cooper's Black Widow (from Welcome to My Nightmare) in a similar way for that character.
I just thought of another one along these lines: Joe Walsh's The Confessor: though it neither inspired nor was inspired by the Astro City character, it's still a nice coincidence and could be a potential theme song for the movie version.
Also wanted to say that a lot of the things Captain Spaceman mentioned in the last couple pages of the thread are new to me, so I look forward to checking those out sometime soon.
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 15, 2019 23:50:59 GMT -5
Cool to see them in that comic! And just think, they fly with the help of Kirby wires!  The Monkees had their own comic books in the '60s but neither Marvel or DC, and also comic stories in paperback form, so I'd say of course they are at least part of the greater 2-D 'universe'. |
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Post by Mister Spaceman on Jan 26, 2020 17:11:59 GMT -5
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Post by Confessor on Jan 27, 2020 1:00:37 GMT -5
Hey Mister Spaceman (cue the Byrds!), what was the book on Marvel you wrote? I saw you mention it earlier in this thread. |
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Post by Mister Spaceman on Jan 27, 2020 3:05:04 GMT -5
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