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Post by berkley on Nov 23, 2018 1:36:31 GMT -5
Sorry, originally posted this on the Toys board by mistake, let me see if I can paste it here:
Well, I suppose we shouldn't be surprised after DC announced their upcoming New Gods movie a few months back, but I admit I still wasn't expecting this : apparently Marvel has now announced that they will be producing a film version of the Eternals:
edit: shoot, never mind that "now" - apparently this was announced months ago, at least as early as May, from this other article:
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 21, 2019 14:43:27 GMT -5
Glad Marvel is trying something a little more risk here, but I don't see this turning out very well.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think Marvel isn't going to connect with this one, but what do I know, I thought GotG would thud too ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 15:09:30 GMT -5
I'm sort of interested to see how this is handled - if they take it straight from the comics, I can see a mass audience reaction of "hang on! isn't this just some half-arsed Von Daniken retread mixed with mis-spelled Greek gods?". And of course, they'd be right
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Post by berkley on Jul 22, 2019 0:53:50 GMT -5
Definitely inspired by Von Daniken, among other things, and all the more fun and interesting for that (IMO)!
But no, I don't have high hopes for the movie. How can you, when even in the comics no one's really shown much interest in or understanding of the whole Eternals concept since Kirby? I'd like to think there's a small, outside chance that a film-maker coming from outside the world of comics might be able to appreciate the idea more than comics professionals, most of them caught up in their love of the MU and superheroes, have done up to now, but the odds aren't great.
Still curious, of course, as I am about the New Gods movie and Marvel's MoKF, etc. Of the cast, the only one I really like so far is Salma Hayek, but I don't think they've announced who she and the others will be playing yet, have they?
And of course there's always the chance that, like Marvel's superhero movies, they'll make something that at least is entertaining even if it doesn't really capture the magic of the comics or the characters. That's probably the most we can hope for, realistically. In which case, I might enjoy the movie for what it is, but it won't be anything special to me.
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Post by berkley on Jul 22, 2019 19:43:48 GMT -5
Definitely inspired by Von Daniken, among other things, and all the more fun and interesting for that (IMO)! But no, I don't have high hopes for the movie. How can you, when even in the comics no one's really shown much interest in or understanding of the whole Eternals concept since Kirby? I'd like to think there's a small, outside chance that a film-maker coming from outside the world of comics might be able to appreciate the idea more than comics professionals, most of them caught up in their love of the MU and superheroes, have done up to now, but the odds aren't great. Still curious, of course, as I am about the New Gods movie and Marvel's MoKF, etc. Of the cast, the only one I really like so far is Salma Hayek, but I don't think they've announced who she and the others will be playing yet, have they? And of course there's always the chance that, like Marvel's superhero movies, they'll make something that at least is entertaining even if it doesn't really capture the magic of the comics or the characters. That's probably the most we can hope for, realistically. In which case, I might enjoy the movie for what it is, but it won't be anything special to me. Here's what Kevin Feige had to say about the Eternals as reported by the Beat... the font to me is more reminiscent of the 80's maxi-series than the 70s series, but the logo of the 70s series was a bit underwhelming to me, and just about the only thing I didn't like about the series, while I liked the maxi-series logo, but not much else about the series. -M -M I was afraid they'd cast Jolie as Thena, since she's known for playing forceful characters. And she usually does it pretty well, as far as her acting is concerned, but I just don't like her screen presence. I would have preferred Hayek, though it isn't her usual kind of role - I actually thought she was probably going to play Sersi. Looks like they're playing pretty fast and loose with the whole idea, as expected. I'm thinking of it as just another Marvel move now, and not anything particularly to do with the Eternals apart from the names and probably a few basic elements like the genetic engineering by advanced aliens, etc.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 23, 2019 12:08:32 GMT -5
This trailer is going to have to be amazing because I have less than zero interest in this so far.
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Post by berkley on Jul 23, 2019 19:40:42 GMT -5
This trailer is going to have to be amazing because I have less than zero interest in this so far. All my interest derives from being a fan of Kirby's Eternals comic book series, so naturally it's waning fast with every new piece of info about the movie.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 23, 2019 19:48:18 GMT -5
This trailer is going to have to be amazing because I have less than zero interest in this so far. All my interest derives from being a fan of Kirby's Eternals comic book series, so naturally it's waning fast with every new piece of info about the movie. The art was great no doubt, but I could never get myself to care about the characters Kirby introduced and no one else since has changed that.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 24, 2019 16:14:43 GMT -5
It's a great concept, I agree, but, who cares about the Eternals as characters ?
No one ever as far as I know, but like I said, I thought GotG would flop too so what do I know ?
The Celestials are cool as hell but the Eternals themselves are nothing more than D-list guest stars. They've never ever been interesting.
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Post by berkley on Jul 24, 2019 17:42:23 GMT -5
It's a great concept, I agree, but, who cares about the Eternals as characters ?
No one ever as far as I know, but like I said, I thought GotG would flop too so what do I know ?
The Celestials are cool as hell but the Eternals themselves are nothing more than D-list guest stars. They've never ever been interesting.
I find them interesting - far more so than most Marvel heroes and heroines, in fact - as well-conceived characters that played important roles in what I think is one of the high points of American comics. But you're right of course in the sense that none of them ever caught on with the Marvel readership at large.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 25, 2019 16:58:55 GMT -5
Definitely inspired by Von Daniken, among other things, and all the more fun and interesting for that (IMO)! But no, I don't have high hopes for the movie. How can you, when even in the comics no one's really shown much interest in or understanding of the whole Eternals concept since Kirby? I'd like to think there's a small, outside chance that a film-maker coming from outside the world of comics might be able to appreciate the idea more than comics professionals, most of them caught up in their love of the MU and superheroes, have done up to now, but the odds aren't great. Still curious, of course, as I am about the New Gods movie and Marvel's MoKF, etc. Of the cast, the only one I really like so far is Salma Hayek, but I don't think they've announced who she and the others will be playing yet, have they? And of course there's always the chance that, like Marvel's superhero movies, they'll make something that at least is entertaining even if it doesn't really capture the magic of the comics or the characters. That's probably the most we can hope for, realistically. In which case, I might enjoy the movie for what it is, but it won't be anything special to me. Here's what Kevin Feige had to say about the Eternals as reported by the Beat... and here's that logo... the font to me is more reminiscent of the 80's maxi-series than the 70s series, but the logo of the 70s series was a bit underwhelming to me, and just about the only thing I didn't like about the series, while I liked the maxi-series logo, but not much else about the series. -M -M i must have missed the part where Kirby had Ajax, a female, the leader of the Eternals. All I recall was some red-headed guy, who liked green. Yeah, this sound full on Kirby. Maybe not Jack Kirby...........
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 20:48:05 GMT -5
At this point, its really a coin toss. Will they go into the whole Eternals vs. Deviants storyline be told on screen? Will we see Thanos being born into this society? Maybe?
I’m undecided on this. On the one hand, I feel like its a lot of backstory to get into, but on the other, I feel like being able to tie back to one of the best MCU villains cant help but be a win for the film.
As such, whether or not Thanos will be in the film is really just a coin toss at this point. The script hasn’t been written, so its something that could be done, or they might ignore it entirely. Who knows?
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Post by berkley on Aug 13, 2019 22:26:51 GMT -5
At this point, its really a coin toss. Will they go into the whole Eternals vs. Deviants storyline be told on screen? Will we see Thanos being born into this society? Maybe? I’m undecided on this. On the one hand, I feel like its a lot of backstory to get into, but on the other, I feel like being able to tie back to one of the best MCU villains cant help but be a win for the film. As such, whether or not Thanos will be in the film is really just a coin toss at this point. The script hasn’t been written, so its something that could be done, or they might ignore it entirely. Who knows?
We don't even know if it's a stand-alone in its own fictional universe or part of the MU or I suppose MCU, but in any case, I never found that tying Starlin's Titanians to Kirby's Eternals was a good idea from either perspective: it doersn't seem to have interested many (any?) Thanos writers and since I think the Eternals are a self-enclosed concept, Thanos just muddies those waters.
Of course the film-makers most likely don't see things the same way or and probably aren't interested in the whole underlying concept, so they may well like the idea of using Thanos to boost interest in the Eternals film.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 14, 2019 9:56:13 GMT -5
Thanos probably won't be tied to the Eternals of the MCU, as his homeworld of Titan is depicted as an actual planet rather than a moon of Saturn as in the comics. Of course, I could be wrong but I think Marvel Studios is done with Thanos now (which is just fine with me).
Cei-U! I summon the wishful thinking!
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Post by berkley on Aug 14, 2019 22:43:18 GMT -5
Thanos probably won't be tied to the Eternals of the MCU, as his homeworld of Titan is depicted as an actual planet rather than a moon of Saturn as in the comics. Of course, I could be wrong but I think Marvel Studios is done with Thanos now (which is just fine with me). Cei-U! I summon the wishful thinking!
Yeah, the connection never really took off even in the comics, as far as I can tell - which isn't very far, since my knowledge of Thanos is pretty spotty with regard to everything after the 70s. It could well be that the Eternals movie will be its own thing rather than another MCU story, but it probably doesn't matter too much since they seem to be paying little attention to the Kirby source material. Phastos was a later addition wan't he (or is it she)?
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