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Post by hondobrode on Nov 26, 2018 0:25:27 GMT -5
Honestly Kurt, I expected you to run with this last year, but then you surprised me.
There's probably a lot more characters that fit in this category than most realize off hand.
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Post by berkley on Nov 26, 2018 0:33:37 GMT -5
I don't think I'll be picking any myself, but I just remembered that some of the EC comics back in the 50s adapted stories by Ray Bradbury and other famous SF/horror/fantasy writers.
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Post by Rob Allen on Nov 26, 2018 2:07:08 GMT -5
Speaking of Shanower, how about Age of Bronze? Could that be considered an adaptation of the Iliad?
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Post by brutalis on Nov 26, 2018 7:37:51 GMT -5
Yeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Let the festivities begin to simmer and boil within our geeked out skulls until savory morsels explode forth upon the annoying Christmas caroler's outside... Only 12 is making the choices really mean something to each of us and hopefully create some unique choices. Can't wait to see what fever dreams you all sort through for your choices.
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 26, 2018 9:21:54 GMT -5
Lots of good questions being asked, so let's see if I can't sort some of this out for y'all. A single issue of a series in which an eligible character guests (like Uri Gellar's appearance in Daredevil or Elric's in Conan the Barbarian) is okay.
Direct adaptations of myths, legends, and fairy tales are generally excluded, but comic book versions of novels, movies, etc., based on those sources are permissible. So you can't cite, for example, the Classics Illustrated version of Snow White but you can cite the Gladstone adaptation of the Disney movie.
Similar rules apply to the Disney gang. Carl Barks' classic Uncle Scrooge or Gyro Gearloose stories are ineligible, but anything starring Donald is okay, as are comics based on the animated series DuckTales. Manga based on anime are perfectly okay. I'm not sure what to say about Age of Bronze. It's not a direct adaptation of The Iliad and feels more like straightforward historical fiction, but if you can articulate a good argument for it I'm amenable.
Cei-U! Hope that helps!
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 26, 2018 11:42:25 GMT -5
Since there's a thread about this on the com board..
How are we on musicians in general (Rock 'N Roll Comics, the Marvel Kiss Special, DC's Pat Boone Comics)
or specific albums....
Both Alice Cooper and Kiss had comic narrative tie-ins to their '90s albums?
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Post by EdoBosnar on Nov 26, 2018 12:48:13 GMT -5
Hmm, so Byrne's Romulan stories qualify, but none of his other Trek minis. Darn.
Still, I think I may be able to pull together a list of twelve.
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Post by MWGallaher on Nov 26, 2018 13:11:26 GMT -5
May I assume the list of eligible media in the original post isn't comprehensive? In particular, two of the first to come to my mind adapt a poem and an opera.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 26, 2018 13:16:24 GMT -5
May I assume the list of eligible media in the original post isn't comprehensive? In particular, two of the first to come to my mind adapt a poem... Oooh nice. |
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 26, 2018 14:00:10 GMT -5
May I assume the list of eligible media in the original post isn't comprehensive? In particular, two of the first to come to my mind adapt a poem and an opera. I too had an opera in mind. |
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Post by infobroker on Nov 26, 2018 14:04:07 GMT -5
So just to make some (minor)trouble, I'm posting a couple of observations.
You don't mention comic strips as being a legal or illegal source. Since in most cases it is just a reformatting of the same media presentation, I can see a perspective that would argue that except for length and dimensions, it is not really an adaptation. Yet off the top of my head I can think of two, that are presented in an entirely different form in comics versus the strip where they originated. Little Lulu and Dennis the Menace.
I'm not sure where to cutoff mythology. I'll argue that certain source material of relatively recent vintage is bonafide-a-bull mythology. They just haven't been in the public domain long enough to be thought of that way. Tarzan, Sherlock Holmes, Mowagli...
- jb the argumentative ib -
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 26, 2018 14:24:41 GMT -5
So just to make some (minor)trouble, I'm posting a couple of observations. You don't mention comic strips as being a legal or illegal source. Since in most cases it is just a reformatting of the same media presentation, I can see a perspective that would argue that except for length and dimensions, it is not really an adaptation. Yet off the top of my head I can think of two, that are presented in an entirely different form in comics versus the strip where they originated. Little Lulu and Dennis the Menace. I'm not sure where to cutoff mythology. I'll argue that certain source material of relatively recent vintage is bonafide-a-bull mythology. They just haven't been in the public domain long enough to be thought of that way. Tarzan, Sherlock Holmes, Mowagli... - jb the argumentative ib - Comic strips are a legal source so, yes, Lulu and Dennis are eligible, as are Popeye, Phantom, Flash Gordon, the Peanuts gang, etc.
The cutoff point for mythology is simple: if we can identify beyond question the identity of the storyteller (Burroughs, Doyle, Kipling, as well as Shelley, Stoker, Stevenson, etc.) and read/view that original version as written by that storyteller, you can use it.
And to answer another question from farther up the thread, yes, adaptations of poems (as long as the poet is known by name) and operas are okay.
Cei-U! I summon the elaboration!
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 26, 2018 15:44:50 GMT -5
So just to make some (minor)trouble, I'm posting a couple of observations. You don't mention comic strips as being a legal or illegal source. Since in most cases it is just a reformatting of the same media presentation, I can see a perspective that would argue that except for length and dimensions, it is not really an adaptation. Yet off the top of my head I can think of two, that are presented in an entirely different form in comics versus the strip where they originated. Little Lulu and Dennis the Menace. I'm not sure where to cutoff mythology. I'll argue that certain source material of relatively recent vintage is bonafide-a-bull mythology. They just haven't been in the public domain long enough to be thought of that way. Tarzan, Sherlock Holmes, Mowagli... - jb the argumentative ib - Good to see you back! |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 26, 2018 18:55:10 GMT -5
Wow, this is a great theme. You've really out done yourself this year!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 26, 2018 20:30:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure what to say about Age of Bronze. It's not a direct adaptation of The Iliad and feels more like straightforward historical fiction, but if you can articulate a good argument for it I'm amenable. Well... Can we argue that Age of Bronze features Troilus and Cressida, whose love affair is a creation of Will Shakespeare? (he asked wishfully). |
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