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Post by kirby101 on Jan 12, 2019 9:06:53 GMT -5
Frank Giacoia inking? I had all these issue and only remembered Dick Giordiano inking. Frank did a good job here keeping Adams finer line.
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Post by MDG on Jan 12, 2019 9:41:56 GMT -5
Frank Giacoia inking? I had all these issue and only remembered Dick Giordiano inking. Frank did a good job here keeping Adams finer line. I was going to comment on that--one of the better Adams inking jobs I've seen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 10:13:52 GMT -5
Frank Giacoia inking? I had all these issue and only remembered Dick Giordiano inking. Frank did a good job here keeping Adams finer line. Inks by issue #:
76, 85, 89 Neal Adams. 77 & 78 Frank Giacoia. 79 Dan Adkins. 80, 81, 82, 83, 86, 87 Dick Giordano. 82, 84 Bernie Wrightson
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Post by Farrar on Jan 12, 2019 16:00:44 GMT -5
Frank Giacoia inking? I had all these issue and only remembered Dick Giordiano inking. Frank did a good job here keeping Adams finer line. I was going to comment on that--one of the better Adams inking jobs I've seen. I agree. I read this issue when it came out and I remember thinking that the art wasn't the usual heavy-handed stuff I had seen from Adams previously, which at that time for me was his X-Men work. I mean, I admired Tom Palmer's illustrative finishes but I always found TP's zip-a-tone with all that stipling and his overall heavy inks a bit too much. Giacoia's lighter, clearer touch was perfect here. I also remember that Joshua face shown in the page above scared the sh&t out of me!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 12:23:16 GMT -5
Script by Denny O'Neil. Pencils by Neal Adams. Inks by Dan Adkins. Green Lantern and Green Arrow get caught up in a fight over logging rights on Native American land. GL tries to fix things "legally" but runs into roadblocks. He attempts to find the missing documents which would settle the dispute. However GA tries the unconventional approach and disguises himself as one of the Indian's dead ancestors to settle the dispute. BC is also involved trying to keep the peace. GL retrieves a congressman to help. GL and GA end up in a brawl. In the end the congressman states he will try to help but even O'Neil acknowledges nothing gets solved quickly. Last issue I felt the rights of Native American's got too brief treatment. So I was pleased to see more of this issue explored. I felt the way GL went about trying to help the problem was the more realistic solution and GA's was just silly dressing up as a ghost. And I like that O'Neil acknowledged issues like this can not be solved overnight. In the end I feel O'Neil presented a more balanced issue and didn't try to provide easy answers. As with anything solutions don't happen overnight.
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Post by rberman on Jan 19, 2019 16:22:38 GMT -5
For the moment Neal Adams is working hard to avoid a crucifixion pose even when it would have made more anatomical sense than wrenching GL's shoulders in the manner depicted.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 19, 2019 18:05:08 GMT -5
A cruxiction pose would have obscured the totem.
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Post by Farrar on Jan 21, 2019 12:48:42 GMT -5
... Last issue I felt the rights of Native American's got too brief treatment. So I was pleased to see more of this issue explored. I felt the way GL went about trying to help the problem was the more realistic solution and GA's was just silly dressing up as a ghost. And I like that O'Neil acknowledged issues like this can not be solved overnight. In the end I feel O'Neil presented a more balanced issue and didn't try to provide easy answers. As with anything solutions don't happen overnight. GA's "ghost" was ridiculous. Btw also on sale in July 1970--the same month as GL #78--was Avengers #80, written by Roy Thomas: The stories may have been heavy-handed, but I remember liking that some of the comics I was reading at that time were touching upon real world issues.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jan 21, 2019 15:58:49 GMT -5
Btw also on sale in July 1970--the same month as GL #78--was Avengers #80, written by Roy Thomas: That cover's dialogue doesn't work at all - is Thor deaf?.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 22, 2019 0:56:16 GMT -5
Btw also on sale in July 1970--the same month as GL #78--was Avengers #80, written by Roy Thomas: That cover's dialogue doesn't work at all - is Thor deaf?. It's the helmet. It pushes his hair into his ears and muffles everything.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 22, 2019 9:59:10 GMT -5
That cover's dialogue doesn't work at all - is Thor deaf?. It's the helmet. It pushes his hair into his ears and muffles everything. So somebody sent Captain America, the Vision, Iron Man and Thor to check on reports of a man and a wolf at a construction site? Talk about overusing the Defcon 6 alert!
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 22, 2019 12:34:06 GMT -5
It's the helmet. It pushes his hair into his ears and muffles everything. So somebody sent Captain America, the Vision, Iron Man and Thor to check on reports of a man and a wolf at a construction site? Talk about overusing the Defcon 6 alert! It's New York, it's the dawn of the 70s; you know the police aren't going to show up! Well, not for hours. Too busy picking up their payoffs. I've seen Serpico and the French Connection.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 22, 2019 20:37:07 GMT -5
GA's "ghost" was ridiculous. I mean, yeah, but Adams sells it as much as anyone could. If an artist who was had a style little more serious or a little more campy than Adams' ridiculously over-the-top melodramatic tone the scene could have been so, so, so, much worse. And, hey, I have some affection for these extreme product of their time stories. There is maybe a two year window where having Green Arrow slather himself in florescent body paint and pretend to be a long-dead Indian Chief (or else not) to inspire his ancestors would be acceptable. 1965? Modern Native Americans didn't exist in comics. 1975? Wouldn't have been PC. 1970? BINGO!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2019 15:16:14 GMT -5
Script by Denny O'Neil. Pencils by Neal Adams. Inks by Dick Giordano. While on their "quest" GL, GA and the Old-Timer come across an accident on a boat hauling toxins. GL is injured and the Old-Timer decides to transport him to a hospital instead of preventing the toxins from dumping into the river. For this action the rest of the Guardians send him to the planet Gallo to be judged by the Tribune. GL and GA offer to go along as witnesses. But when they arrive on Gallo everything goes wrong. The Old-Timer is judged guilty without trial. While imprisoned they discover that the real Tribune have been replaced by their mechanic who is insane. They break out of prison and restore the real Tribune. The Old-Timer stays behind to stand trial and GL & GA return to earth. To be continued next issue. Not a bad issue. It was nice to take a break from the trek across America and go back into space for a few issues. O'Neil doesn't really make any strong social statements this issue. (* but he does! I didn't understand the context. See Prince Hal comments in the next post). He does touch on pollution briefly and in a round about way discusses justice and the law. He uses GA again to argue with the Guardians about how of touch they are with humanity. A metaphor for how out of touch politicians are with the common man?
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 23, 2019 15:34:21 GMT -5
Script by Denny O'Neil. Pencils by Neal Adams. Inks by Dick Giordano. While on their "quest" GL, GA and the Old-Timer come across an accident on a boat hauling toxins. GL is injured and the Old-Timer decides to transport him to a hospital instead of preventing the toxins from dumping into the river. For this action the rest of the Guardians send him to the planet Gallo to be judged by the Tribune. GL and GA offer to go along as witnesses. But when they arrive on Gallo everything goes wrong. The Old-Timer is judged guilty without trial. While imprisoned they discover that the real Tribune have been replaced by their mechanic who is insane. They break out of prison and restore the real Tribune. The Old-Timer stays behind to stand trial and GL & GA return to earth. To be continued next issue. Not a bad issue. It was nice to take a break from the trek across America and go back into space for a few issues. O'Neil doesn't really make any strong social statements this issue. He does touch on pollution briefly and in a round about way discusses justice and the law. He uses GA again to argue with the Guardians about how of touch they are with humanity. A metaphor for how out of touch politicians are with the common man? Well, no, except for the obvious references to the Chicago Eight trial during which Judge Julius Hoffman had defendant Bobby Seale bound to his chair and gagged at the defense table. It was an absolute circus. All of the convictions were eventually overturned on appeal. Hoffman
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