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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 24, 2019 9:14:37 GMT -5
One of the truly great runs of any title in American comics. It was mined for so much derivative ideas that I’m surprised DC didn’t give us a whole classification of rhyming demons, with the Alliteratives, the Iambic pentametrists and the hendecasyllablists all waging a rap battle in some War of the Rhymers crossover.
At the time, though, Etrigan speaking in rhymes added a wonderful creepiness to his presence. A touch of class contrasting his more bestial appearance.
This thread will have me going through the long boxes, I can tell!!! Good job, rberman!
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Post by rberman on Feb 24, 2019 19:06:15 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #29 “Love and Death” (October 1984)Creative Team: Writing by Alan Moore. Pencils by Stephen Bissette. Ink by John Totleben. The Story: Swamp Thing and Abby hug and make up after their argument about his name last issue. He finds a bird lying on the ground, dead but moving due to the many flies within it. Abby returns to Matt, who has two surprises. First, he’s purchased a house without consulting her. (Guys: never do anything like this. Ever.) Second, he has a job at Blackriver Recorporations. Returning to their new home, they make love. But Abby had a vision that Matt’s co-workers are all rotting corpses. She researches their names at the library and finds they are all deceased murderers. She realizes that the “Blackriver” is the Styx, and that the infestation of flies reflects Matt’s deceased status; she has been making love to a decayed zombie. She can’t escape the stench of her contact with him no matter what she does. Just then, Matt comes home with his zombie associates and grabs her, making a reference to her uncle, i.e. Arcane. My Two Cents: Alan Moore wrote this story in only two days after editor Karen Berger deferred the story of Nukeface for further down the line. Its graphic horror elements were the proximate reason for dropping the Comics Code seal from this issue, though the extended sequence of discreetly nude Abigail was further justification. It's an E.C.-worthy tale, a spooky set-up with a gruesome punch line and minimal Swamp Thing.Note the cover, a close-up of human eyelids housing a fly's multi-faceted red eye.
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Post by rberman on Feb 25, 2019 8:44:06 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #30 “A Halo of Flies” (November 1984)
Creative Team: Writing by Alan Moore. Pencils by Stephen Bissette. Ink by Alfredo Alcala. The Story: Arcane’s manifestation within Matt Cable’s body causes people all over the country to act in sadistic ways. His minions drag her through the floor, down to hell; then they set out to wreak mayhem in nearby towns. Arcane confronts Swamp Thing and leads him back to the Cable house, where Abby lies dead. My Two Cents: The horror elements in this issue are extremely Lovecraftian, not the part about tentacled Elder Gods from other dimensions, but the horror of bugs and wicked men and decay and unexplained phenomena. The Comics Code is back, for now, and Alfredo Alcala’s inks fit in with Bissette just fine, making E.C. style art to match the E.C. style story. “The Returned Man looks upon his works, and he sees that they are good” is a parody of the creation account in Genesis 1. Every DC comic in this release frame contained an editorially mandated teaser for Crisis on Infinite Earths, so this issue has a single page in which Lyla the Harbinger and the Monitor discuss the “disturbance in the Force” caused by Arcane. It’s a thematically inappropriate distraction from Moore’s story, but he tries to make the most of it by establishing Arcane as a Spectre/Trigon-level threat. I guess Arcane has leveled up from the mystic dabbler he was in his first appearance, but does anyone believe Arcane is really that powerful? “A watchman watches.” Hey, there’s a story in there somewhere, if Moore can find it…
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Post by rberman on Feb 25, 2019 22:09:14 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #31 “The Brimstone Ballet” (December 1984)Creative Team: Writing by Alan Moore. Pencils by Rick Veitch. Ink by John Totleben. The Story: Arcane-in-Matt plays mocking mind games with Swamp Thing, then vomits flies all over him. Swamp Thing proves unexpectedly strong in the ensuing battle, now that he sees himself as an aspect of the earth itself. Matt Cable rises to the occasion, driving Arcane’s spirit from his body, back down to Hell. But Matt’s attempt to free Abby’s spirit from Hell is unsuccessful; he collapses into a coma. My Two Cents: The cover dress now includes the tag line “Sophisticated Suspense,” and the Comics Code seal is gone again, probably due to Arcane’s gruesome zombie face. Moore gets plenty of drama out of just two or three characters interacting, not unlike British TV, which often can’t afford the large ensemble casts of American productions. While Stephen Bissette is working on the upcoming Annual issue, Rick Veitch makes his debut on pencils for the series here, backed by Totleben. He does well, though I don’t recall Swamp Thing having fingernails before. The Monitor and Lyla make another editorially mandated one-page intrusion here, best ignored. I don’t recall her décolletage being so extreme in Crisis on Infinite Earth. Was this too mandated here as a ‘sex sells’ tactic? Did Arcane’s zombie murderers get dealt with also? Hopefully their power derived from his, but a page wrapping up their story would have helped.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 26, 2019 0:53:10 GMT -5
Maybe it was date night on the Monitor's ship.
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Post by rberman on Feb 26, 2019 7:59:42 GMT -5
Swamp Thing Annual #2 “Down Amongst the Dead Men” (January 1985)Creative Team: Writing by Alan Moore. Pencils by Stephen Bissette. Ink by John Totleben. The Story: In a twist from what we thought before, it now seems that Abby’s body still lives, but her soul has been cast down to hell. Swamp Thing discovers the ability to enter the astral plane, so he travels to hell to claim her. Along the way, he has a set of supernaturally-themed guides: Deadman meets Swampy in the realm of the recently dead, where a mother and child who died in a car crash are just finding each other. Deadman expounds on the nature of ectoplasm and poltergeists, then hands Swamp Thing off to his next guide… The Phantom Stranger introduces Swamp Thing to the spirit of Alec Holland, who says that his burial in issue #28 has freed his spirit to enter the blessed afterlife where he can be happy forever with his wife Linda. Swamp Thing is next introduced to… The Spectre is immense. He argues that the resurrection of characters renders their deaths meaningless, which is a good point as far as comic book characters go. But Phantom Stranger wins a debate about Abby’s unjust death, and the Spectre agrees to let Swamp Thing pass into hell, where he’s handed off to… Etrigan agrees to escort Swamp Thing into hell, taking payment in the form of a flower from heaven which Phantom Stranger was wearing on his lapel. They pass the spirit of General Sunderland, who is doomed to lick the hooves of a bloated demon eternally; then they pass the spirit of Arcane, whose single day of torture (since his death yesterday) has already seemed like many years. Finally they find Abigail surrounded by monstrosities. Swamp Thing punches them away and grabs her, and Etrigan casts a spell to return both their spirits to their bodies in our world. Happy ending! My Two Cents: The obvious mythological basis is the story of Orpheus descending into Hades to rescue his beloved Eurydice. Other comic books around the same time had similar themes. One was the Dante/Orpheus pastiche “Nightcrawler’s Inferno” in X-Men Annual #4 (1980). Its story was quite similar: a family member with a grudge (Nightcrawler’s stepmom Margali) puts Nightcrawler’s body into a death-like state, and Doctor Strange and the X-Men must descend into Hell to bring back his soul, getting a tour of various hellish sights and sites along the way. To add a Wagnerian element to Kurt Wagner’s story, he also learns that his girlfriend Amanda is secretly his stepsister Jimaine, which for some reason pleases him. What a weirdo! Another story that comes to mind is Thor’s descent into Hel to retrieve mortal souls unjustly stolen from their bodies, in a story arc beginning in Thor #360 (1985). Thor succeeds, but his face is badly scarred in the process. This is also the story in which Skurge the Executioner double-wields machine guns, as depicted much more recently in the film Thor: Ragnarok.
Moore uses the various conversations in this issue to put forward a view about the reality and nature of the afterlife. is it his own view? Deadman tells Swamp Thing that heaven is ruled by Rama Kushna, who first appeared in Deadman’s origin in Strange Adventures #205 (1967), sending him on a mission to avenge his own murder. At the time, Rama was a disembodied voice. Strange Adventures #216 introduced the mystical Tibetan city of Nanda Parbat, which is DC’s version of Shangri-La, just as K’un-Lun is Marvel’s version, and revealed that Rama Kushna was both female and guardian of Nanda Parbat. Putting it all together, Deadman is equating Nanda Parbat with at least one sort of heaven that can be accessed by the recently deceased. Phantom Stranger gives conflicting explanations of spiritual matters. At one point he says that there are as many version of heaven as there are people, but then he says that Deadman’s idea of God as female shows immaturity. The Spectre’s main plot point is that he identifies Swamp Thing as an Earth Elemental, one member of a society of similar creatures. Moore will unspool this notion further in future issues. Etrigan is full of quotations from British poetry. He insults the Phantom Stranger as one “who will not serve above, nor reign below,” a parody of Satan’s defiant declaration of independence in John Milton’s Paradise Lost: Etrigan also calls Hell a “dark Satanic mill.” This reference to the pollution caused by the Industrial Revolution comes from a poem by William Blake in the preface to his 1808 work Milton: A Poem in Two Books.
Theologically, Etrigan gives voice to the popular notion that God has no wrath (and thus no justice) but is simply a passive observer as men spend their lives creating the afterlife in which they deserve to spend eternity.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Feb 26, 2019 12:45:10 GMT -5
Sometimes I wonder how it would have been a pre-crisis JLA series written by Moore ... Which of Moore's various team books is most JLA-like? I would say his issues of Tom Strong which showed the character (mainly through his daughter Tesla) interacting with a multiverse. The love for the pre-Crisis multiverse is so blatant here and it made me mourn that Moore never got to write a JLA/JSA crossover. At the time, though, Etrigan speaking in rhymes added a wonderful creepiness to his presence. A touch of class contrasting his more bestial appearance. I agree and I thought it odd, and irritating, that Neil Gaiman completely undermined its significance in Sandman (referring to rhyming as being something like a momentary fad among some very minor demons).
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Post by rberman on Feb 26, 2019 22:02:57 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #32 “Pog” (January 1985)Creative Team: Writing by Alan Moore. Art by Shawn McManus. The Story: A team of Smurf-sized aliens looking for a home plop their turtle-spaceship down in the bayou. They befriend Swamp Thing, but after discovering that Earth is home to carnivores such as alligators and humans, they set off to continue their quest elsewhere. My Two Cents: This fill-in issue gives Bissette and Totleben a chance to catch their breath after the length Annual that was published this same month. It’s a tribute to the funny-animals of Walt Kelly’s comic strip Pogo, and McManus’ more cartoony style fits it well. I know almost nothing about that strip, so I bet most of the jokes went over my head. Swamp Thing was entirely superfluous in this issue, though he does get to be the audience of Pog’s ongoing exposition dump. The aliens speak in a whimsical Carrollian vernacular of slightly altered words. Once Alan Moore finished the Pog issue, he found it difficult to write in normal English once more, says Neal Gaiman. It makes sense that funny animals might consider carnivores to be barbarians, except that one of the aliens is himself an alligator-form creature. Is he a vegetarian? This is the second issue of Swamp Thing in which an alien in an encounter suit visits Earth and finds us wanting.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 27, 2019 0:53:00 GMT -5
Pogo is very much one of the spiritual ancestors of Moore's run on Swamp Thing. Pogo is set in the Okefenokee Swamp and Walt Kelly used it to voice some environmental concerns, in later strips, such as the famous, "We have met the enemy, and he is us!" Walt Kelly worked in comics and animation, going back to the 30s, and Pogo grew out of his comic book work, for Dell/Western; specifically, Animal Comics. At first, Albert the Alligator was more of the star; but, Pogo's charm soon won the spotlight, though Albert was a strong Second Banana. The strip was filled with witty banter, songs, puns, political and social satire, and just charming, folksy musings on the world around us. During the McCarthy Era, Kelly lampooned McCarthy with the character Simple J. Malarky, a daring feat, given how critics were often turned into targets. Kelly would have a field day with today's government. Pogo would prove a great inspiration for more modern strips, like Bloom County; and, especially, Calvin & Hobbes. Bill Watterson has sung the praises of Kelly and Heriman endlessly. There was also an indie comic, Tales from the Bog, that had a very strong Pogo vibe. Pogo also provided the inspiration for the Starjammers member, M'amselle Hepzibah, taken from the lady skunk in the strip.
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Post by berkley on Feb 27, 2019 1:57:52 GMT -5
One of the truly great runs of any title in American comics. It was mined for so much derivative ideas that I’m surprised DC didn’t give us a whole classification of rhyming demons, with the Alliteratives, the Iambic pentametrists and the hendecasyllablists all waging a rap battle in some War of the Rhymers crossover. At the time, though, Etrigan speaking in rhymes added a wonderful creepiness to his presence. A touch of class contrasting his more bestial appearance. This thread will have me going through the long boxes, I can tell!!! Good job, rberman! I think the answer to that one is obvious: there aren't many comics writers out there who would be both willing and able to implement your idea convincingly.
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Post by rberman on Feb 27, 2019 7:06:01 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #33 “Abandoned Houses” (February 1985) Creative Team on the frame story: Writing by Alan Moore. Art by Ron Randall. Creative Team on the flashback: Writing by Len Wein. Art by Bernie Wrightson. The Story: As she sleeps fitfully, Abby Cable falls into a dream about “secrets and mysteries.” Brothers Cain and Abel introduce her to their respective houses, also named after secrets and mysteries. Abby chooses to explore the House of Secrets with awkwardly friendly Abel, who shows her a golden bracelet and then tells her the original Swamp Thing story from House of Secrets #92. Abby recognizes that the story of Alex Olsen is essentially the story of Alec Holland, and Abel confirms that there have been many Swamp Things throughout history, recapitulating the basic story over and over. Cain murders Abel yet again, and when Abby awakens from her dream, she can’t remember the secret she learned; it has become a mystery. Three pages of pin-ups fill out the issue. My Two Cents: Moore continues to look for interesting ways to tread water on this second consecutive fill-in episode. This time he homages the seminal (but now-abandoned) DC 1970s horror comics House of Secrets and House of Mystery, adding twelve new pages of frame story to the original Wein/Wrightson classic. In the process, he gives us a preview connecting our current Swamp Thing to various similar characters that have appeared in comic book history. It was cute for this cover to homage the original cover, but maybe not a smart move, as the usually potent Bissette/Totleben combo pales in comparison to the famous original.
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Post by rberman on Feb 27, 2019 22:10:11 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #34 “The Rites of Spring” (March 1985)Creative Team: Writing by Alan Moore. Pencils by Stephen Bissette. Ink by John Totleben. The Story: Matt Cable is comatose in the hospital. His doctor gives his wife Abby permission to find a new man, so she goes out to the bog and has sex with Swamp Thing. My Two Cents: OK, it’s not quite as banal as that summary. First come nine pages in which Abby and Swamp Thing gingerly feel each other out for evidence of mutual affection and, finding it present, contemplate what their form their relationship might take. Swamp Thing gives her a tuber from his body. Eating it is a psychedelic experience which literally causes the world to fall on its side, as the art panels shift ninety degrees into a series of two page vertical spreads portraying Abby’s experience of temporary oneness with the plant kingdom, a counterpoint to the similar set of pages when Jason Woodrue ate one of Swamp Thing’s tubers back in issue #22. Bissette says this story “was sparked by a postcard I’d mailed to Alan amid our steady exchange of lengthy letters and longer phone calls… 'If Abby were a real woman, what we’ve put her through would have landed her in an asylum by now. Why don’t we give Alec and Abby a break and just spend a quiet day in the swamps with them, let them relax and enjoy one another?'” The final splash page is fraught with symbolism as Swamp Thing’s passionate embrace with Abby causes him to spill white frothy material across his back and erupt with flowers and fruit. Needless to say, no Comics Code seal graces this issue, whose gorgeous cover makes up for last issue’s failure to rise to Wrightson level. The art is dazzling, including the painted cover. I’m less enthused thematically: partly because this story seems like thinly veiled wish fulfillment on Alan Moore’s part (the hairy, awkward, shambling creature gets the hot babe whose only desire is his happiness!), and partly because Abby’s husband Matt is in a coma after he saved the world from Arcane and then tried to rescue her from Hell. Granted, Moore gave us lots of reasons to cheer for Matt’s departure before that, but no responsible doctor is going to tell the wife of a comatose man that she ought to go find someone else to make her happy. That said, an ambitious issue like this is worth a decade of stories about Thrudvang the Earth-Master. Speaking of stories in which a sexy woman with no needs of her own decides to mate with a plant, recall the fate of Mantis in Giant Size Avengers #4 (1975, Steve Englehart): The title of this issue comes from Igor Stravinsky's ballet inspired by pagan fertility dances. The combination of modern (i.e. dissonant) music with avant garde dance provoked a riot at the production's debut. Disney later used Stravinsky's music in the film Fantasia for the segment depicting dinosaurs.
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Post by rberman on Feb 28, 2019 8:25:11 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #35 “The Nukeface Papers (Part 1)” (April 1985)Creative Team: Writing by Alan Moore. Pencils by Stephen Bissette. Ink by John Totleben. The Story: In Blossomville, Pennsylvania, an underground coal seam fire has made the town uninhabitable. Wallace Monroe and his pregnant wife Treasure survey the area. His company has dumped toxic waste in the abandoned mines here, but now he’s being transferred to a new project in Louisiana, where workmen are dumping more waste into the bayou. In the Louisiana swamp, an addled hobo with a rotting nose used to work at the Lombard mine in Blossomville, and he still drinks its nuclear sludge as an intoxicant. He offers some to another vagrant, whom he mistakenly calls “Ed.” Ed starts rapidly decaying, his teeth falling out. Soon Ed is too ill to respond to the hobo’s reminiscences. Swamp Thing dreams of the environmental desolation of Blossomville and cries a single tear in the shadow of nuclear cooling towers. The hobo staggers up and incapacitates Swamp Thing with a toxin-polluted hand, then sits down to begin his tale again to his latest captive audience… My Two Cents: This is not the first time (or even the second time) we’ve had a story about the swamp as a ground for illegal dumping of toxins, but Moore tells it with more panache. Nukeface’s amiable narrative makes him a particularly creepy point of view character, oblivious to the damage he has caused himself and is now inflicting upon others. It’s a metaphor of industrial pollution. Nobody sets out to cause environmental harm as a goal, but it happens all the same. Bissette heightens the mood by peppering the issue with actual newspaper clippings about industrial waste. Blossomville was based on a disaster that struck Centralia, Pennsylvania in 1962, when a fire in coal mines underneath the town made the whole area uninhabitable. Bissette recalls the environmental impact of this event: “All efforts to extinguish the fires have ended in failure, and after three decades the subterranean inferno fulfilled the priest’s curse – following years of government-sponsored relocation efforts, the state invoked eminent domain in 1992 to condemn the entire town and evacuate its remaining population. Today, only nine die-hard residents remain.” As of today, Wikipedia speculates that “At its current rate, (the Centralia mine fire) could continue to burn for over 250 years.” Bissette reports that the radioactive hobo aspect of Nukeface’s character is very similar to the Steve Ditko story “Doom in the Air” from The Thing #14 (1954), a story the Swamp Thing team didn’t know at the time they were working.
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Post by rberman on Feb 28, 2019 17:01:06 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #36 “The Nukeface Papers (Part 2)” (May1985)Creative Team: Writing by Alan Moore. Pencils by Stephen Bissette. Ink by John Totleben. The Story: Wallace Monroe is distressed to learn that vagrants are disappearing near the toxic dump in Louisiana, just as they did in Pennsylvania. And why are children here play-acting games about “ Nukeface,” the nickname of a bum from Blossomville? Wallace’s pregnant wife Treasure wanders into the swamp for no obvious reason. She finds Nukeface looking ill, pityingly lays her overcoat on him, and falls asleep while keeping watch over him. When she returns to town the next morning, she can’t feel her baby kicking inside, and everyone flees her presence, even her husband. She’s hospitalized for treatment, but it doesn’t look good. Abby finds Swamp Thing, who is rapidly decaying due to his encounter with Nukeface. He hopes to send his mind out into “The Green” and then reconstitute his body with fresh vegetable matter. Will it work? Nukeface awakens and blithely ambles off to cause accidental poisonings in some other community. A wall of reproduced newspaper clippings encourage the reader to see that this story dramatizes a real-world issue. These are the “Nukeface papers” to which the story title alludes. My Two Cents: Moore turns over a new leaf here, segueing from straight horror into a series of socially-themed stories. Once again Swamp Thing is more the victim than the protagonist, while Abby is simply a bystander. The problem of Nukeface goes beyond any one super-hero’s purview to solve. Treasure Monroe is that rara avis of popular fiction, the compassionate Christian. Moore makes a commendable effort to depict real people from all walks of life, and this story gives voice to quite a few of them. It’s structured as a series of vignettes, giving first person accounts of the Nukeface incident from various denizens of Houma, Louisiana, including a cop, a kid, and all the named characters relevant to the story.
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Post by rberman on Mar 1, 2019 8:14:08 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #37 “Growth Patterns” (June 1985) Creative Team: Writing by Alan Moore. Pencils by Rick Veitch. Ink by John Totleben. The Story: Over the course of the issue, a seed pod in a discarded drink can germinates and grows into a new body for Swamp Thing. Abby discovers this and is delighted, though her attempts to help go awry. John Constantine checks in with his international network of associates: a pill-addicted punk club woman in London. A stammering, obese Lovecraft nerd in Wisconsin. A schoolmarm nun in Washington. His artist lover Emma in NYC. They all agree that the forces of evil are preparing for an attack, using apperances of classic horror monsters to generate enough fear energy for some cosmic evil himself to manifest in the world. Constantine visits the semi-reconstituted Swamp Thing and points out that since there are plants all over the world, Swamp Thing can grow a new body anywhere, not just where his last one died. Meet me in Rosewood, Illinois in a week, says Constantine. Abby tries to distract Swamp Thing from this offer with a vacation request, but he’s too intrigued to heed her. Emma has drawn a horror creature from a nightmare. When her back is turned, it jumps off the page and kills her, while her fellow paranormals reel in the shared psychic shock. My Two Cents: Swamp Thing enters Epic Quest mode. He has a cosmic evil to prevent and a mysterious mentor to lay a trail of breadcrumbs from one story to the next. Just as Len Wein worked his way through horror archetypes, so too Alan Moore promises stories based on “all the class frighteners… werewolves, vampires, haunted houses, dreams…” We’ve already had dreams, in the form of the Monkey King. All the others are coming soon too. The nerd in Wisconsin is assembling one of Aurora’s horrific guillotine model sets from the early 1970s, as we discussed here recently on our forum. Ha! Nice touch. There wasn’t a guillotine kit in the monster set; the two torture devices in the series were the pendulum and the suspended metal cage, but the reference is clear enough.
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