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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 4, 2019 11:52:52 GMT -5
Continuity Note: Swamp Thing teams up with Batman in The Brave and the Bold #122 (Oct 1975). Swampy is again captured by Agent Zero of the Leviathan Project, in a replay of issue #13. He gets put on display in a Gotham carnival, rescued by Batman, and then saves the city from a killer plant. Has any DC character been "crucified" more than Swamp Thing?
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 4, 2019 14:57:30 GMT -5
Continuity Note: Swamp Thing teams up with Batman in The Brave and the Bold #122 (Oct 1975). Swampy is again captured by Agent Zero of the Leviathan Project, in a replay of issue #13. He gets put on display in a Gotham carnival, rescued by Batman, and then saves the city from a killer plant. Has any DC character been "crucified" more than Swamp Thing? Well, with Green Lantern, his experiences ranged from being restrained, sort of crucified to watching someone else about to be crucified--
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Post by rberman on Feb 4, 2019 21:59:52 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #20 “The Mirror Monster” (January 1976)Creative Team: Gerry Conway writing, Nestor Redondo on art The Story: The Army construction project continues; its demolition of a cliff dumps tons of rubble into Makanah’s grotto of eternal youth down below. Enraged, Makanah encourages Swampy Two to go kill the palefaces who did this thing. Swampy Two does indeed throw one construction worker to his death, then shamble off. He encounters Alec-Thing, and the two grapple in a bog just outside of town. Makanah runs into town to rant at everybody, and Burt Sloane beats him to death. Swampy Two sees this happen, breaks off his melee with Alec-Thing, and goes to stand over Makanah’s body, mourning. Halston the construction foreman, seeing Swampy Two surrounded by civilians, nonetheless lobs a package of explosives at him, blowing him up while somehow leaving everyone else unscathed. Alec-Thing skulks away, and no one realizes that he wasn’t the one who was destroyed. My Two Cents: The main purpose of this story is to create a duplicate Swamp Thing who can die so that Abigail and Cable can think the “real” Swamp Thing died. This justifies their exit from the series, in anticipation of the revamp which is about to happen, introducing super-villains of the Earthly and alien sort. We have to cut this issue some slack, because it was only supposed to be seven pages at the end of the previous issue, not eighteen, so there’s some filler here. But that aside, several points make no sense. For instance, there is no way the explosion that destroyed Swampy Two did not kill everyone in sight. No way. But its purpose is to make Cable and Abigail think Swamp Thing is dead so that Conway can take the story in a different direction. I am pretty sure that OSHA doesn’t let you set off explosives at the top of a cliff without checking what’s going on at the base of the cliff. Right? Also, are there any mountains in northern Florida? Even Swamp Thing is getting tired of running into civilians who freak out and get themselves killed trying to destroy him: An editor’s note claims that it was the “duplicate Swamp Thing” who attacked the construction crew in issue #19. That is not correct; it was our own Alec Holland Swamp Thing, responding to the inexorable force drawing him back together with his duplicate. Get it right, Joe Orlando!
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Post by rberman on Feb 5, 2019 8:02:37 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #21 “Requiem” (March 1976)Creative Team: David Michelinie writing, Nestor Redondo on art The Story: Solus (Latin for "Alone") is an alien prince, cast out from his people after murdering his brother. But they left him with a Control Rod which augments his natural touch-based mind-control with the ability to control people at a distance. Also, they exile him on a spaceship which has both teleport capabilities as well as a rack of “stasis tube” prison cells. Solus runs all over the galaxy, kidnapping different species, including the beautiful Cellanth, whom he serially rapes. Finally, Solus kidnaps Swamp Thing. Cellanth frees all the beasties in Solus’ menagerie while Solus is busy monologuing about how difficult his life is. Solus seizes telepathic control of Swamp Thing to murder some of the other beasties, then telepathically forces Cellanth to dance for him so feverishly that she dies. Further beastie rioting ensues, and in the scuffle, Solus comes into physical contact with Swamp Thing. This is bad because he’s been festooned by his people with hundreds of tiny bombs which will explode if he comes into contact with “planetary soil,” and apparently Swamp Thing’s body qualifies in that category. Solus does explode, and Swamp Thing steps back into Solus’ teleporter, which delivers him into the Mojave Desert. Covers That Lie: The cover image showing Solus riding a sky-sled and shooting a laser pistol at Swampy on Earth does not remotely describe the contents, other than the presence of Solus. Obviously it was done in advance of the actual story. My Two Cents: Well, that was a dark story! Take away the sci-fi trappings, and it could have taken place in a grungy suburban basement dungeon. To make it work in outer space, Conway introduces many contrivances. The “stasis tubes” do not put the monsters into stasis; they are simply prison pods, handily equipped with telepathic language translators so that the prisoners can chat. The Control Rod has a hundred identical buttons, but Cellanth knows just which one will free the prisoners. Solus’ people exiled him with all kinds of tech that no deposed tyrant should be allowed to have. The space platform has an absurd construction with only a shin-high railing to prevent one from stumbling off into deep space, which is exactly what happens to Solus during the fight scene. The tragic life of Cellanth the sex-slave comes to a tragic end. She has flesh-colored antennae just like Marvel’s character Mantis, who debuted in Avengers #112-114 (1973). Steve Englehart explained later: "Basically Mantis was supposed to be a hooker who would join the Avengers and cause dissension amongst all the male members by coming onto each of them in turn." As if prostitutes are nymphomaniacs. Needless to say that aspect of Mantis didn't make it into her appearance in the Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 movie. At one point Solus seizes control of Swamp Thing’s mind, forcing him to slaughter his fellow escapees. All in all, a sordid tale that doesn’t hang together well. Sort of like Avengers #200, which also lists Michelinie’s name among the writing credits, though he would later refuse to take credit for the contents. Redondo's art is good, though.
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Post by rberman on Feb 5, 2019 19:47:50 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #22 “The Solomon Plague” (May 1976)Creative Team: David Michelinie writing, Nestor Redondo on art The Story: Swamp Thing is captured in the desert and taken to Project Safehaven, a plague colony inside a mountain fortress. The afflicted townsfolk live in a big man-cave with billiards, ping-pong, and a big screen TV, but somehow it’s not enough. They want freeeeeedom! Project head Dr. Daniel Solomon’s family are among the afflicted, and he hopes that testing on Swamp Thing will produce a cure. Swampy proves an uncooperative guest, and the plague victims go mad, storming the clean area of the fortress and attempting to escape to spread their illness around the world. Dr. Solomon shoots his own infected son, lets Swamp Thing out into the desert, and then self-destructs the base, killing himself, his wife, and all the other plague victims. My Two Cents: Michelinie goes super-dark again with this story. Swamp Thing became amazingly unhelpful once he realized the scientists wanted to take samples from him to help cure plague victims. I guess they should have taken their samples right after capturing Swampy, before they put him into the contamination zone and allowed him to regain consciousness. The plague’s backstory is confusing. It starts out as “underground nuclear testing releases radioactive gas that poisons a town.” But then it morphs into an infectious disease story, justifying the sequestration of the victims. A story about the dangers of underground nuclear testing would have been enough, but I guess the “Andromeda Strain” component was necessary to present a threat that could spread to the rest of the world.
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Post by rberman on Feb 6, 2019 6:50:42 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #23 “Rebirth and Nightmare” (July 1976)Creative Team: Gerry Conway writing, Nestor Redondo on art The Story: Swamp Thing walks to Quin, Oregon, where his brother Edward Holland lives with his lab assistant Ruth Monroe, who hangs around the lab in a bikini top and low rider pants. Edward declares himself “twice the chemist Alec is or ever was” and promises to find a cure for swampiness. He’s right; Edward synthesizes an antidote in only 26 hours! Super-villains Sabre and Thrudvang the Earth-Master work for the criminal gang Colossus, which wants to capture Swamp Thing and recreate Alec Holland’s bio-restorative formula. But Sabre has another agenda; he is government drone John Zero, whose Leviathan project was destroyed by Swamp Thing and Matt Cable back in issue #13. That explosion cost Zero his right hand, which he has now replaced with a blade, and he’s apparently trained up to become a buff swordsman. He tracks Swamp Thing to Oregon (more on this later) and accosts him, just as Edward Holland’s experiment is successfully turning Swampy back to a human. A battle in a burning barn leaves Zero even more maimed, and Alec Holland restored to fully human form. My Two Cents: Sales must have really sunk, judging by the radical revamp. These are the first super-villains we’ve seen in this whole series, and they seem quite out of place. The cover has a new super-hero style logo and cover art also. We’re a long way from Len Wein’s gothic stories, though in all fairness it has been 18 months since he left the book. We’re told that Colossus has implanted a homing device inside Swamp Thing, but not when or how; it’s just a necessary convenience to lead the villains to the hero. The two villains fly together in a hovercraft to Oregon, but for some reason only Sabre attacks in this issue; Thrudvang must be hanging out in the woods for a couple of days, not attacking until next issue. I haven’t talked a lot about the art in this series. Nestor Redondo isn’t Bernie Wrightson, but on the whole he’s done a good job, better than the average Marvel comic of the 70s. Here’s a cool splash page montage of Swamp thing’s head intercut with a montage of Edward working on the cure. Conway introduces biochemistry grad student Ruth Monroe as a stereotypical fainting female while his captions remind us that the fainting female is a cliché stereotype. Trying to have it both ways, are we? Conway does subsequently try to flesh out Ruth’s character through a conversation about her mother not living to see her pursuing advanced education. Redondo meanwhile spends plenty of time outing Ruth's flesh. Edward makes good on his boast of being a better chemist than Alec, which of course raises the question of why we haven’t heard of him before now, and why it was Alec doing the government research and not Edward in the first place. Edward’s cure requires re-staging the original accident to a bizarre level of faithfulness. He builds a mock laboratory in a barn, plants a real bomb in it, and then when the bomb goes off, the chemical-coated Swamp Thing must run outside and jump in an inflatable swimming pool filled with Louisiana swamp water.
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Post by MDG on Feb 6, 2019 9:56:10 GMT -5
I only read a couple of the post-Wein Swamp Things, but the Redondo art sample here are much better than I remember. I may have to look for some reading copies.
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Post by rberman on Feb 6, 2019 10:09:30 GMT -5
I only read a couple of the post-Wein Swamp Things, but the Redondo art sample here are much better than I remember. I may have to look for some reading copies. Being bimonthly doubtless helped, and Redondo was inking himself.
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Post by rom on Feb 6, 2019 11:07:09 GMT -5
I haven't read any issues of post-Berni Wrightson Swamp Thing, but these scans are great - Redondo's art is incredible - and reminds me slightly of the iconic Alfredo Alcala.
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Post by rberman on Feb 6, 2019 18:53:03 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #24 “The Earth Below” (September 1976)Creative Team: David Anthony Kraft writing “with special thanks to Gerry Conway for the plot!” Ernie Chua and Fred Carrillo on art. Carl Gafford is credited as colorist, the first time in this series that the colorist has been separately named. The Story: When Alec Holland awakens the next morning worrying about how to re-start his life as a human, Ruth Monroe suggestively says, “Start with me.” This makes his brother Edward jealous. Alec gets bad muscle cramps when he and Ruth go into town for groceries and breakfast. Solomon Smith, Sabre’s boss from Colossus, gets Sabre out of jail and hospital and immediately has him back on his feet, re-equipped with a new curved blade. Sabre is worried that his partner Thrudvang the Earth Master (who went with Sabre to Oregon last issue but did nothing and is apparently still there) will kill Alec Holland before the secret of the bio-restorative formula can be wrested from him. Sure enough, Thrudvang uses his earth-powers to wreck the car with Alec and Ruth. Alec lures Thrudvang onto a nearby suspension bridge, then in “a flash of mad genius” cuts the bridge with his pocketknife. Thrudvang falls into the river far below, and the hero is safe… for now… My Two Cents: Thrudvang proves thoroughly incompetent despite being super-strong, super-tough, and being an earth-shaper to boot. He has never appeared again in any comic book. The book is heading into some really silly super-hero territory now. The last page teases us with a “Hawkman vs Swamp Thing” battle next issue. But that issue never comes; the series was canceled here, so we never find out what Colossus was going to do next, how they implanted a homing beacon inside Swamp Thing, or how long it would take for Edward’s jealousy to (presumably) lead him to stage another chemical accident to turn Alec back into Swamp Thing, probably killing Ruth (the Linda Holland stand-in) in the process for extra symmetry points. A more interesting plot would have been for Edward to become the new Swamp Thing. Ruth and Alec are having one of those accelerated comic book romances, falling into each other’s arms after only a few panels together. This kiss is particularly silly inasmuch as they stopped running away from the villain so they could lie on the ground and make out. Not surprisingly, he catches up with them. In 1991, Len Wein assessed the series after his departure: “Bernie retired from the bimonthly Swamp Thing after ten issues. Three issues later, I left as well. Various other stalwarts attempted to carry on as best they could, but Swamp Thing was then our personal vision. After another dozen issues, the title quietly breathed its last. By that time the death was euthanasia.” That seems harsh; some of the stories were OK, and the art was great. But clearly sales were terrible. Next time we'll cover what happened to Swamp Thing in other books in the short term.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 6, 2019 19:32:06 GMT -5
Kind of symptomatic of a lot of DC, at that point in time. A lot of stories have a generic feel to them, with rather generic art. Once in a while, you got a good one and some books had much better averages than others; but, DC had serious problems, overall, at that time. Looking at those costumes, they look like they came off the rack at a discount villain shop. The uniformity is one thing; but, it is kind of underwhelming. Sabre looks like a mish-mash of ideas, from swashbuckler to average costume dude. That's what separates the really good artists from the average, finding those little details to give life to an idea. Look at George Perez's design for Deathstroke; that's a swashbuckler. It's not as campy as cavalier; but, not as bland as Sabre. Also, compare Paul Gulacy's Razorfist to Sabre... Not as heavily detailed as Perez; but, it just says "killer!" Sabre looks like he repurposed an old costume. Someone needs to set up a meeting between Thrudvang and Thrakkorzog, from The Tick. That or Mongul.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 6, 2019 19:45:19 GMT -5
“Thrudvang”?
Did Conway never say that name out loud to see just how uneuphonious it is?
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Post by zaku on Feb 7, 2019 2:31:04 GMT -5
I didn't know that he returned to his human form in this early issues. How do this reconcile with Moore's interpretation of the character..?
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Post by rberman on Feb 7, 2019 6:24:00 GMT -5
I didn't know that he returned to his human form in this early issues. How do this reconcile with Moore's interpretation of the character..? He also returned briefly to human form in issue #2 in his first adventure after transformation. Magic was involved that time, and I guess you can explain anything with magic, but that issue does take it for granted that Swamp Thing's body is Alec Holland's physical body hybridized into plant form. This issue is less easy to explain since it 's just laboratory bench work that transforms him to human. You could try to make a pseudoscience appeal to the memory of water or somesuch, but considering that neither villains Sabra and Thrudvang nor criminal conspiracy Colossus are ever seen again, it's best to just write these last two "superhero" issues of Swamp Thing off as non-canonical.
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Post by rberman on Feb 7, 2019 6:25:16 GMT -5
Interim Swamp Thing AppearancesAlec Holland and Ruth Monroe would reappear in Challengers of the Unknown #83 (November 1977), in which they go back to the coal mining town of Perdition from issue #8 and help the Challengers defeat M’Nagalah, but Alec changes back into Swamp Thing, and I guess Ruth’s dad Heathcliff is an evil wizard or something? Anyway, M’Nagalah lays low after this until Dan DiDio includes him in All-New Atom #2-3 in 2006. Swamp Thing on the other hand stuck around with the Challengers through issue #87, their final issue. That’s two series that Swamp Thing killed within a year, so I guess he really is dangerous! Or maybe writer Gerry Conway was to blame… In DC Comics Presents #8 (1979, Steve Englehart), Swamp Thing wonders whether his fellow bog-monster Solomon Grundy might hold the key to returning him to human form. So he interferes with Superman chasing down Grundy. Swamp Thing has apparently gained enough manual dexterity to run a laboratory, but his experiments come to naught, and Swamp Thing gives up and skulks out of Metropolis. In The Brave and the Bold #176 (1981, Martin Pasko), Selina Kyle’s sister Felicia, who resembles Linda Holland, is murdered in the Louisiana Bayou with Swamp Thing as a witness. Batman has been looking for Felicia at Selina’s request, and he teams up with Swamp Thing to bring her killers to justice. Martin Pasko would go on to write the Swamp Thing reboot which is our next topic.
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