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Post by brutalis on Feb 7, 2019 8:02:18 GMT -5
Dagnabbit rberman you have really gone and gotten my swamp fever flaring up. I have the Wein and Wrightson in numerous formats: black and white which looks spectacular, in small paperback format, in reprint issues and also a TPB. But I have NOTHING of the Redondo run and it is causing me to WANT it very badly. Question is do I pull the trigger on the Swamp Thing hardback Omnibus or wait and hope for a TPB printing coming around soon? Rassin Frassin man of Rubber (are you a relation to the movie Swampy) causing me such pain and mental agony! Thanks for the write ups! Looking forward to the continuing saga as you explore the murky waters ahead...
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Post by rberman on Feb 8, 2019 7:11:23 GMT -5
The Saga of the Swamp Thing Annual #1 (May 1982)Creative team: Adapted by Bruce Jones from Wes Craven’s screenplay. Pencils by Mark Texeira. Ink by Tony DeZuniga. The Story: This unfolds very similarly to the movie as recounted in this thread. You might want to go read that first for comparison purposes. Alice Cable arrives at the secluded lab; she and Alec Holland investigate the disabled sensor; the explosive and super-fertilizer effects of Holland’s animal-plant hybrids become apparent. Arcane’s commandos appeared at the very beginning of the film, but the comic book introduces them when they burst into the lab and gun down Alec’s sister Linda. Arcane’s disguise as the lab’s security chief Ritter is attributed to black magic rather than a Mission Impossible fake face. Alice hides one of Alec’s notebooks, gets captured by Ferret, then rescued by Swamp Thing. Alice accidentally draws Ferret to the gas station as before (check out the gas station's 1930s telephone), resulting in another rescue by Swamp Thing. Alice and the local kid retrieve the hidden notebook. The kid gives Swamp Thing the notebook. Alice is captured again, escapes Arcane’s yacht after enduring some groping by Ferret, and then leads Ferret to Swamp Thing, who kills Ferret. The gratuitous nude bathing scene is skipped, and Swamp Thing and Alice are captured by Arcane’s men. Arcane hosts his dinner party including captive Alice. Bruno gets turned into a midget by Holland’s formula. Arcane takes the formula, believing it will make him immortal and super-smart. Swamp Thing regrows his missing arm and busts out of the crucifixion bondage in the basement. Bruno leads Swamp Thing and Alice out through an underground passage. Arcane turns into a beast, grabs a sword, and fights Swamp Thing in the swamp, mortally wounding Alice in the process. Swamp Thing kills Arcane and uses his regenerative power to heal Alice. My Two Cents: With a couple of very minor changes (the location of Alice escaping Ferret on the yacht was moved indoors in this version), this is about as faithful a comic book adaptation as you could imagine. Texeira and DeZuniga did a creditable job on the art as well. Swamp Thing looked appropriately hulking in a way that “man in suit” never can. The film presents a double-edged sword to the comic book by conflating Matt Cable and Abigail Arcane into a single character, and making Arcane a businessman instead of a gothic wizard. These continuity changes make Matt, Abigail, and Arcane useless to the comic book in the short term, so the creative team of this reboot had to come up with completely new characters (except Alec Holland). It will be a couple of years before they dare revisit Abby and Matt.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 8, 2019 8:43:30 GMT -5
And another Swamp Thing on the cross scene.
This time a St. Andrew’s Cross.
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Post by rberman on Feb 8, 2019 9:04:39 GMT -5
And another Swamp Thing on the cross scene. This time a St. Andrew’s Cross. Yes, this element was quoting from issue #2 at Arcane's castle. It's present in the film as well. The leg manacles look wrongly positioned; shouldn't they be attached to the legs of the cross? As it is he appears to have lots of wiggle room with the legs, so don't get too close!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 9:32:37 GMT -5
I'm really enjoying these reviews ...
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Post by rberman on Feb 8, 2019 19:44:31 GMT -5
(The Saga of the) Swamp Thing #1 “What Peace There May Be in Silence” (May 1982)Creative Team: Written by Martin Pasko. Art by Tom Yeates. Len Wein was editor. The Story: Swamp Thing emerges from a bog in the North Carolina Tidewaters and spends six pages recalling his origin story. On the outskirts of a town called Limbo, he rescues hunters from a grizzly attack, then is enraged when the terrified men fire on him and amputate his left hand. Under a pier, a nutjob has just killed his wife and is about to shoot his daughter for being a witch; Swamp Thing intervenes again, and the man kills himself. Swamp Thing adopts the mute orphan girl, who seems unfazed by any of this; is she blind and deaf as well? He somehow divines that her name is Casey. He takes her to town, protects her from a speeding car, and is beset by locals. Disreputable-looking operative Harry Kay, an agent of the mysterious Mr. G., has arrived in town looking for Swamp Thing. Lizabeth Tremayne has written a book about Swamp Thing, and locals jabber endlessly about him in the Heever’s General Store. Harry has retrieved Swamp Thing’s amputated hand and believes that Swamp Thing is now dying, unable to regenerate further. Back-up Story: “In Shadowed Depths” with Mike Barr and Dan Spiegle telling a Phantom Stranger tale. My Two Cents: Same Thing, different swamp. A reboot issue is going to require a good bit of retread to get new readers up to speed. Three new elements appear: Casey the mystery girl, Liz Tremayne the author, and the nefarious Harry Kay. Martin Pasko had penned Swamp Thing’s recent appearance in The Brave and the Bold. He’s moving out of gothic archetypes; the villagers in this story use shotguns and pistols, for instance, though they’re still preparing firebrands at one point. But on the cover, it’s strictly axes, torches, and pitchforks. Pasko’s Swamp Thing has an 80s approach to profanity, with regular “Oh my God!” and the like that wasn’t seen in the 70s. Len Wein recalled the recruitment of the new team: Tom Yeates lived at one point with three other artists: Steven Bissette, John Totleben, and Rick Veitch. All four collaborated on storytelling and visual ideas for this series, and all four would see credit as primary artist at one point or another. Every issue of the new series says “Swamp Thing created by Len Wein and Berni Wrightson” somewhere in its first few pages. This seems like a relatively early (and positive) blow for creators’ rights of that sort.
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Post by berkley on Feb 8, 2019 21:11:10 GMT -5
I really liked Tom Yeates's artwork on this series. I don't recall the stories or Marty Pasko's writing very well after all these years but I do remember liking them at the time. All in all, an under-rated run, to my mind.
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 9, 2019 0:49:03 GMT -5
For a while there, it seemed like half of DC's artists were Kubert School grads. Of course, he had the connections and they had the training that your average fan artist didn't.
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Post by rberman on Feb 9, 2019 8:32:14 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #2 “Something to Live For” (June 1982)Creative Team: Written by Martin Pasko. Art by Tom Yeates. The Story: The fearful farm folk attack Swamp Thing with their implements, which of course does not go well for them. But Harry Kay does better, grabbing young Casey with chloroform and then laying Swamp Thing low with an airplane spraying Round Up. Swampy awakens as the prisoner of Mr. Grasp (the mentioned "Mr. G" of last issue), an agent of the Sunderland Corporation. They’re in the timber business and want to use the secrets of Holland’s formula to rapidly regrow forests for repeat harvesting. That’s reasonable! Plus, Grasp himself is a double hand amputee (with robot hands) who could benefit from regenerative treatments, so he intends to get the information by vivisection if interrogation fails. But Casey uses telekinetic powers to prevent her own execution and then free Swamp Thing. Grasp chases Swamp Thing and Casey into a cave, firing a laser gun recklessly and ultimately getting himself killed. Swamp Thing finds his ability to regenerate his missing hand has returned, and Kay survives the burning of the Sunderland laboratory due to “my secret experiments.” He’ll be back! Meanwhile in Rosewood, Illinois, a mohawked punk murders his teen girlfriend and her mother. What can it mean? Back-up Story: “Soul on Fire” with Mike Barr and Dan Spiegle telling a Phantom Stranger tale. My Two Cents: “Grasp” and “Sunderland” are portentous names for the bad guys, especially going up against hero who is the "whole land" (Holland). It’s a pretty basic action plot overall, with Swamp Thing as damsel again. Pasko is gradually unfolding both a corporate conspiracy (our third, following The Conclave and Colossus) and the secret of Casey’s powers. I guess she’s not blind and deaf, maybe? Still mute though. She is the “Something” in the title that Swamp Thing has to live for. Protecting her gives his life purpose. Harry Kay must be a pseudonym. In this and later issues, he says stereotypical German comic book character things like “Gott in Himmel!” Later issues will also claim he is some sort of doctor, but at this point, he just looks like a portly black ops guy. The story of Swamp Thing’s inability to regenerate was tied up awfully quickly. Too bad; it would have made for a good extended story as well as raised the stakes if we saw him losing chunks over the next several issues before finding some solution. However, future issues will make it clear that he’s still slowly dying—I mean, dying more rapidly than the rest of us are slowly dying.
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 9, 2019 8:42:35 GMT -5
Put Tom Yeates on the list of under appreciated artists.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Feb 9, 2019 9:15:58 GMT -5
(The Saga of the) Swamp Thing #1 “What Peace There May Be in Silence” (May 1982) This new series retconned away the last issues of the preceding run and the Challengers of the unknown appearances, so that Alec had never gained the ability to switch back to his human form. I think that was a very wise chouce, and because it was explained in the editorial pages, we didn’t need some convoluted in-story explanation. A great restart for a classic comic!
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Post by MDG on Feb 9, 2019 9:53:30 GMT -5
For a while there, it seemed like half of DC's artists were Kubert School grads. Of course, he had the connections and they had the training that your average fan artist didn't. It was certainly true of Swamp Thing, where throughout this run just about every regular or fill-in artist came from the Kubert School. I saw one artist who did a couple fill ins at a show and said, "you went to the Kubert school, didn't you?" He said, "Yeah, how'd you know?" and I said, "well, a lot of you kind've dear the same." He acted a little insulted.
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Post by rberman on Feb 9, 2019 21:29:19 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #3 “A Town Has Turned to Blood” (July 1982) Creative Team: Written by Martin Pasko. Art by Tom Yeates. The Story: Swamp Thing and Casey catch a freight train to Rosewood, Illinois and are beset by punk teen vampires who find Swamp Thing’s taste not to their liking. In the process of defeating them, Casey and Swamp Thing are separated. Swamp Thing is captured when a townsperson shoots him through the throat with a crossbow so that he can’t breathe. When he recovers, the last four humans alive in Rosewood introduce themselves: Larry, his son Steven, sister Hillary, and nephew Bob. All four have horrific outcomes. Bob sees his mom Hillary vamp out then get staked by Swamp Thing. Larry ends the vampire menace by dynamiting a nearby dam to flood the town; his son Steven curses his name as they are both caught in the explosion. Further up the train track in Pineboro, Casey is found in the boxcar by rail workers who take her to the children’s shelter. We meet Elizabeth Tremayne, author of “Swamp Man? Fact or Myth?” Turns out she’s also the host of a TV tabloid show “In-Depth Magazine.” She travels to Pineboro to do a story on dead kids and live Casey. Back-up Story: “Beauty of the Beast” with Mike Barr and Dan Spiegle telling a Phantom Stranger tale. My Two Cents: This is the vampire story that Len Wein never got to tell himself, and boy is it dark! A whole town dead, including a young boy who dies cursing the father who was willing to sacrifice both of them. Pasko had to send Casey on up the railroad tracks to the next city just to keep her out of this slaughter-fest, even though it means separating her from Swamp Thing before we really know who she is. But her story is tying together with Tremayne at least. The title of this issue is a pun on “A Town Has Turned to Dust,” a “mob justice” themed 1958 installment in the “live theatre on TV” anthology series Playhouse 90. It was written by Rod Serling, directed by John Frankenheimer, and starred Rod Steiger, William Shatner, and James Gregory. Some heavies! I suspect it was a metaphor for the McCarthy hearings and Hollywood black list. I don’t think there are any ravine-spanning dams in southern Illinois; it’s pretty flat there. Why didn’t Pasko set this story in Colorado? Also: Swamp Thing needs to breathe? This is news to me. He seems to stay underwater as long as he wants, and he stayed buried in Dr. Degezer’s coffin for many hours in issue #13, and he swam the Atlantic one time. A few issues from now, he will swim to the bottom of the Caribbean. He certainly doesn’t need to breathe later in this run. The vampires using the cases of the pinball machines as coffins was clever; they are the right shape. Also clever was the vampires’ plan to put vampire blood in the town blood bank, converting everyone who gets a blood transfusion. And thumbs up for Yeates' art.
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Post by rberman on Feb 10, 2019 8:56:17 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #4 “In the White Room” (August 1982)Creative Team: Written by Martin Pasko. Art by Tom Yeates. The Story: Reporter Lizabeth Tremayne is in Pineboro, Illinois covering a string of murdered minority children for her tabloid TV show “In-Depth Magazine.” Turns out that Stryker, host of “Uncle Barney’s Good Neighbor Hour,” a local access TV show for kids, made a deal with a demon to become an assertive negotiator in his business interests. The demon has possessed him and turned him into a serial killer, recently captured by the police. The demon spirit abandons Stryker, whose body spontaneously combusts. A pink mist seeps out of the ashen corpse and infects Paul Feldner, Lizabeth’s co-worker. Casey uses her telekinesis to escape from the orphanage. Possessed Feldner picks her up in his sedan just as Swamp Thing lumbers into town. Somehow Paul kicks Swamp Thing off a bridge (seems unlikely, but maybe he has demonic strength), setting up a final confrontation at a slaughterhouse. The demon attempts to possess Swamp Thing but finds his body too swampy. Apparently this destroys the demon. Feldner comes to his senses and runs off. Casey disappears as well. Swamp Thing, weak from his ordeal, is taken into the care of Liz Tremayne, who knows just the place for him to heal: The Sunderland Corporation! Dun dun dun… Back-up Story: “Hospital of Fear” with Mike Barr and Tony DeZuniga telling a Phantom Stranger tale. My Two Cents: It’s a message issue. Here’s the background: in 1979-1981, twenty-four child murders (and several of adults) in Atlanta were traced to Wayne Williams. It attracted national attention, including a scathing report from ABC News’ “20/20” tabloid news show into the haphazard manner of the Atlanta Police Department’s investigation. Williams was finally apprehended, apparently while disposing of a body found nearby; several subsequent DNA investigations have backed up his involvement. Celebrities including Sammy Davis Jr., the Jacksons, and Frank Sinatra threw a benefit concert to raise money for the Atlanta Children’s Foundation. Marty Pasko dedicated this issue of Swamp Thing "the good people of Atlanta, that they may put the horror behind them... but not forget." It too features a TV tabloid reporter investigating child murders, and arguing that kids’ TV shows (apparently Mr. Rogers’ Neighborhood was in view) do children a disservice by encouraging them to be trusting of strangers. The world is dangerous! Show kids about danger! But I’m not sure that Pasko’s “the devil made me to it” story is the creepiness that is called for. Wouldn’t the truth have been more disturbing, that some people are messed up enough to commit atrocities even when they aren’t performing black magic and getting possessed by evil spirits? that happens in gothic horror stories all the time. Casey was awfully passive this issue. She used tremendous TK power to bend steel bars at the orphanage, yet just lies there like a lump when the demon-possessed Paul Feldner is about to gut her. She wasn’t nearly so inactive when Harry Kay was going to shoot her two issues ago. But she did just stand there as her dad was about to shoot her in issue #1. The part with Tremayne taking Swamp Thing away to Sunderland in an ambulance is kinda goofy. Isn’t he either a suspect or material witness in this string of murders? Also, is a small town in Illinois a good setting for a story about murdered minorities? Chicago or St. Louis would have made more sense. The issue title comes from Cream's famous 1968 song "White Room."
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 10, 2019 12:02:50 GMT -5
Swamp Thing #3 “A Town Has Turned to Blood” (July 1982) Creative Team: Written by Martin Pasko. Art by Tom Yeates. The Story: Swamp Thing and Casey catch a freight train to Rosewood, Illinois and are beset by punk teen vampires who find Swamp Thing’s taste not to their liking. In the process of defeating them, Casey and Swamp Thing are separated. Swamp Thing is captured when a townsperson shoots him through the throat with a crossbow so that he can’t breathe. When he recovers, the last four humans alive in Rosewood introduce themselves: Larry, his son Steven, sister Hillary, and nephew Bob. All four have horrific outcomes. Bob sees his mom Hillary vamp out then get staked by Swamp Thing. Larry ends the vampire menace by dynamiting a nearby dam to flood the town; his son Steven curses his name as they are both caught in the explosion. Further up the train track in Pineboro, Casey is found in the boxcar by rail workers who take her to the children’s shelter. We meet Elizabeth Tremayne, author of “Swamp Man? Fact or Myth?” Turns out she’s also the host of a TV tabloid show “In-Depth Magazine.” She travels to Pineboro to do a story on dead kids and live Casey. Back-up Story: “Beauty of the Beast” with Mike Barr and Dan Spiegle telling a Phantom Stranger tale. My Two Cents: This is the vampire story that Len Wein never got to tell himself, and boy is it dark! A whole town dead, including a young boy who dies cursing the father who was willing to sacrifice both of them. Pasko had to send Casey on up the railroad tracks to the next city just to keep her out of this slaughter-fest, even though it means separating her from Swamp Thing before we really know who she is. But her story is tying together with Tremayne at least. The title of this issue is a pun on “A Town Has Turned to Dust,” a “mob justice” themed 1958 installment in the “live theatre on TV” anthology series Playhouse 90. It was written by Rod Serling, directed by John Frankenheimer, and starred Rod Steiger, William Shatner, and James Gregory. Some heavies! I suspect it was a metaphor for the McCarthy hearings and Hollywood black list. I don’t think there are any ravine-spanning dams in southern Illinois; it’s pretty flat there. Why didn’t Pasko set this story in Colorado? Also: Swamp Thing needs to breathe? This is news to me. He seems to stay underwater as long as he wants, and he stayed buried in Dr. Degezer’s coffin for many hours in issue #13, and he swam the Atlantic one time. A few issues from now, he will swim to the bottom of the Caribbean. He certainly doesn’t need to breathe later in this run. The vampires using the cases of the pinball machines as coffins was clever; they are the right shape. Also clever was the vampires’ plan to put vampire blood in the town blood bank, converting everyone who gets a blood transfusion. And thumbs up for Yeates' art. There is a sizeable dam in Shelbyville, IL, on the Kaskaskia River. However, it does not span a ravine. It was part of an Army Corps of Engineers project, which created a system of artificial lakes, which were then developed as a fishing/camping attraction. We used to go camping and fishing down there, with my grandparents, not to mention pass through there, on trips to by other grandparents, in deep southern Illinois. There is a Rosewood heights, Il, near the Mississippi River, in Madison County, IL. There isn't a Pineboro. Pasko went to Northwestern Univ. and worked, later, for First Comics; so, he at least had a familiarity with the Chicago area. Whether or not he had ever been to southern IL, I don't know. My guess would be that he wrote the script and set it around a dam and Yeates had no idea of the topography of Illinois. Southern Illinois gets pretty hilly and there are some steep ones, in parts. Nothing like mountains, though. However, you get into terrain that is akin to parts of Kentucky. This is the Lake Shelbyville Dam. It was constructed in the 60s and the lake opened in 1970. Facilities were pretty basic, when I was a kid; but, have been greatly built up in the ensuing decades, to the point there is a golf resort at eagle Creek, on the lake system. The lakes were formed from flooded land and there were large areas of sunken timber, which could make for frustrating fishing, if you snagged a tree.
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