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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 29, 2019 17:59:11 GMT -5
Has DC ever collected all of Toth's Black Canary stories anywhere, or are there not enough of them to make up a book? Or have they ever done any Toth collections of any kind? I'm almost tempted to get that Creepy Presents Alex Toth book, even though I believe I should already have all the individual issues of Creepy that featured his work. The Black Canary stories were reprinted in the Black Canary Archives. It would have been nice if DC had continued to do trades like The Art of Walt Simonson. Toth's work would have been a natural for that format. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 29, 2019 17:59:52 GMT -5
While we're on the subject. Is a Snerl Human?
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Post by berkley on Jan 29, 2019 21:50:20 GMT -5
Has DC ever collected all of Toth's Black Canary stories anywhere, or are there not enough of them to make up a book? Or have they ever done any Toth collections of any kind? I'm almost tempted to get that Creepy Presents Alex Toth book, even though I believe I should already have all the individual issues of Creepy that featured his work. The Black Canary stories were reprinted in the Black Canary Archives. It would have been nice if DC had continued to do trades like The Art of Walt Simonson. Toth's work would have been a natural for that format. How much of it is drawn by Alex Toth, though? I'll have to see if I can find any samples online. I'm not too keen on Infantino, apart from all those great covers he did in the 60s with Murphy Anderson - and I always suspect that Anderson was more than half-responsible for making them look so good. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 30, 2019 0:09:17 GMT -5
The Black Canary Archives has the two Adventure Comics stories, from Toth, as well as the Infantino stories, from Flash Comics, the Brave & the Bold appearances, and a few others.
Various Toth stories have appeared in Treasury collections. His Batman story, from Detective #442, "Death Flies The Haunted Skies," has been reprinted in The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told, Batman in the Seventies, and Tales of the Batman: Archie Goodwin.
A comprehensive collection would be nice; but, he did a lot of stuff, especially in the late 40s and the 50s. That would be a multi-volume project.
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Post by MDG on Jan 30, 2019 8:56:07 GMT -5
...I'm not too keen on Infantino, apart from all those great covers he did in the 60s with Murphy Anderson - and I always suspect that Anderson was more than half-responsible for making them look so good. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to step outside... |
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Post by brutalis on Jan 30, 2019 9:41:55 GMT -5
...I'm not too keen on Infantino, apart from all those great covers he did in the 60s with Murphy Anderson - and I always suspect that Anderson was more than half-responsible for making them look so good. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to step outside... And lock the door so he can't get back in!  |
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Post by berkley on Jan 30, 2019 18:55:48 GMT -5
...I'm not too keen on Infantino, apart from all those great covers he did in the 60s with Murphy Anderson - and I always suspect that Anderson was more than half-responsible for making them look so good. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to step outside... As long as you don't make me read any Infantino comics ... |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 30, 2019 18:59:00 GMT -5
I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to step outside... As long as you don't make me read any Infantino comics ... Have you read any 40s vintage Infantino? Because that's a whole different beast than his late work. |
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 30, 2019 22:26:45 GMT -5
As long as you don't make me read any Infantino comics ... Have you read any 40s vintage Infantino? Because that's a whole different beast than his late work. Very true. Infantino was a Milton Caniff wannabe at that point in his career.
Cei-U! I summon the affirmation!
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 31, 2019 0:02:55 GMT -5
Have you read any 40s vintage Infantino? Because that's a whole different beast than his late work. Very true. Infantino was a Milton Caniff wannabe at that point in his career.
Cei-U! I summon the affirmation!
And to bring things full circle, at the time so was Alex Toth (and many others in comic books), but I'm sure Toth was very aware of Roy Crane too. What do Toth fans think of Jerry Grandenetti's work? For me he's the only artist that come close to what Toth was doing. Not that close ultimately, Toth by the late '60s was fully brilliant, but at one time I would've said they were neck and neck. Also there were some things Wally Wood did like The Misfits or inking Ditko which I found nicely Tothesque. |
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Post by tarkintino on Jan 31, 2019 5:28:24 GMT -5
The Black Canary stories were reprinted in the Black Canary Archives. It would have been nice if DC had continued to do trades like The Art of Walt Simonson. Toth's work would have been a natural for that format. How much of it is drawn by Alex Toth, though? I'll have to see if I can find any samples online. I'm not too keen on Infantino, apart from all those great covers he did in the 60s with Murphy Anderson - and I always suspect that Anderson was more than half-responsible for making them look so good. I have to echo MDG....step outside..... Joking aside, it was not Anderson that made his work look so good--it was simply Infantino's brilliant, often unmatched style and design sense that not only made his own covers and interiors instant classics, but he was so great he laid out covers from masters such as Neal Adams (who had no trouble generating endless, instant classics of his own). If one can provide a successful guide for artists of that level, then anyone should conclude that he (Infantino) knew the language of comics and ideas in general like few others in that business. Regarding Toth: a style all his own--beyond wonderful, but I've always preferred his comic work to any of his Hanna-Barbera conceptuals, as his original designs could be repetitive from time to time. Then again, most H-B productions (with the exception of Jonny Quest, which was a Wildey creation) were mind-numbingly repetitive, so perhaps that's was the problem. |
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Post by MDG on Jan 31, 2019 9:30:31 GMT -5
What do Toth fans think of Jerry Grandenetti's work? For me he's the only artist that come close to what Toth was doing. Not that close ultimately, Toth by the late '60s was fully brilliant, but at one time I would've said they were neck and neck. I like Grandenetti, especially his later--odder--work. I probably couldn't pick his war stuff out of a lineup, but he's done some interesting things. He actually started out pretty damn Eisnerish |
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 31, 2019 10:00:19 GMT -5
What do Toth fans think of Jerry Grandenetti's work? For me he's the only artist that come close to what Toth was doing. Not that close ultimately, Toth by the late '60s was fully brilliant, but at one time I would've said they were neck and neck. I like Grandenetti, especially his later--odder--work. I probably couldn't pick his war stuff out of a lineup, but he's done some interesting things. He actually started out pretty damn Eisnerish ...which is hardly surprising, since he egan his career working for Eisner on The Spirit. Cei-U! I summon the cause-and-effect! |
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Post by Crimebuster on Jan 31, 2019 11:00:49 GMT -5
I like Grandenetti as well, particularly his 70's collaborations with Joe Simon, which are uniformly bonkers.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 31, 2019 14:25:00 GMT -5
That's something I was trying to remember, the Eisner connection! They used to list some of his Fiction House pages as Eisner-esque. I think Eisner collectors had been seeking them out as possible Eisner before they were identified as being by Grandenetti.
I recall some nice later Grandenetti comic stories in the revived late '70s/early '80s Mystery In Space and/or Time Warp.
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