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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jan 31, 2019 14:34:39 GMT -5
I wonder if Berk didn't see Infantino's '70s Marvel work first, which was certainly not his best.
I call my taste in comic art "Tothian" so I'm definitely a fan. I strongly value clarity without over-rendering or pointless detail. The Iowa City library had this book. Great stuff, although Toth is such an exemplary panel-to-panel story teller I'm not sure his work translates well to the art book format as dudes like Kirby or Frazetta.
I think I did a thread a while back about Toth's superhero work? I'd love to see his Black Canary issues more prominently collected.
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Post by rberman on Jan 31, 2019 15:27:53 GMT -5
I wonder if Berk didn't see Infantino's '70s Marvel work first, which was certainly not his best. I first knew Infantino from his 70s and even early 80s work, which was instantly recognizable from his insistence that every character have a clearly defined philtrum beneath the nose. It looked plastic to me. I was surprised to see his earlier work eventually, which I prefer now.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jan 31, 2019 15:38:25 GMT -5
I enjoyed Infantino inked by Leialoha in Spider-Woman. Gene Day in Star Wars was part good and part not so good; some of Infantino's style of drawing faces was over-magnified but the backgrounds always looked great, so I preferred the alternating Bob Wiacek issues there... if only they'd had Wiacek on figures and Day on the rest? The best Infantino might be '60s The Flash from around the #120s up? Hated his '80s Supergirl though, sorry Carmine, partly the cheerleader costume and headband though.
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Post by MDG on Jan 31, 2019 16:12:36 GMT -5
Infantino's always been pretty dependent on his inkers, and I don't think he was well-served at Marvel (Leialoha was an exception, and I used to have a Star Wars page inked by Austin that was nice.) When he returned to DC, Denis Jensen did really nice work.
Infantino's Warren work had a variety of inkers including Wrightson, Alex Nino, Simonson, Severin, Alcala... I'm not sure those have been collected yet.
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Post by berkley on Feb 1, 2019 3:30:09 GMT -5
Yes, Reptisaurus nailed it: my view of Infantino has been formed by the 70s work, which is what I've had the most exposure to. I've always disliked it, regardless of the inker.
And yes, I freely admit that I haven't actually seen much of his 60s and earlier stuff, apart from those covers with Anderson, so my impressions are definitely skewed. I did look at a few inline samples of his Black Canary work (from the 40s?) and it certainly looks much better to me than his 70s style, though probably not enough to get me to buy the collection. As always, I've been talking more about my own subjective impressions when it comes to Infantino and was in no way trying to lay down the law or pretending to give a definitive judgement of his work.
Back to Alex Toth, those Zorro pages look better than I remembered so maybe I will look for Toth's Zorro sooner rather than later. They look like they were from a comic book, were they? Was there a newspaper strip as well? If so, that might have been what I was thinking of.
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 1, 2019 9:28:17 GMT -5
Back to Alex Toth, those Zorro pages look better than I remembered so maybe I will look for Toth's Zorro sooner rather than later. They look like they were from a comic book, were they? Was there a newspaper strip as well? If so, that might have been what I was thinking of. Yes, Toth's Zorro ran in seven issues of Dell's Four Color anthology title before the series graduated to its own book, which ran eight issues (not all of which are by Toth). There was also a short Gold Key run but I'm 99% certain it reprinted the Dell material. No, there was no Zorro newspaper strip, by Toth or anyone else.
Cei-U! I summon the mark of Zorro!
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 2, 2019 0:51:54 GMT -5
The Gold Key issues were reprints of the Dell stories. Western owned the material and reprinted some things under the Gold Key banner.
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