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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 8:42:51 GMT -5
I always wondered who manufactured some of the costumes for people like Batman and Robin. When Robin is tortured by Brother Blood's goons, he's pretty much left with his pixie boots and the onsie is reduced to a pair of briefs. Did Alfred sew him a new one? Comics magic, I suppose, haha!
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Post by brutalis on Apr 5, 2019 8:56:54 GMT -5
I always wondered who manufactured some of the costumes for people like Batman and Robin. When Robin is tortured by Brother Blood's goons, he's pretty much left with his pixie boots and the onsie is reduced to a pair of briefs. Did Alfred sew him a new one? Comics magic, I suppose, haha! <iframe width="18.039999999999964" height="3.8000000000000114" style="position: absolute; width: 18.039999999999964px; height: 3.8000000000000114px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_40070287" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.039999999999964" height="3.8000000000000114" style="position: absolute; width: 18.04px; height: 3.8px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 848px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_17589963" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.039999999999964" height="3.8000000000000114" style="position: absolute; width: 18.04px; height: 3.8px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 131px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_5143085" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="18.039999999999964" height="3.8000000000000114" style="position: absolute; width: 18.04px; height: 3.8px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 848px; top: 131px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_83128177" scrolling="no"></iframe> Special On-Line Amazon Prime Heroes and Villains account of course! 2 day delivery guarantee. Discount on bulk purchases.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 5, 2019 9:03:48 GMT -5
They are like Einstein, they had 20 of the same suit.
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Post by zaku on Apr 5, 2019 9:20:33 GMT -5
I always wondered who manufactured some of the costumes for people like Batman and Robin. When Robin is tortured by Brother Blood's goons, he's pretty much left with his pixie boots and the onsie is reduced to a pair of briefs. Did Alfred sew him a new one? Comics magic, I suppose, haha! Yes. He did. (From Detective Comics #0)
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 5, 2019 10:03:26 GMT -5
The "no pants" look is still odd once we take Robin out of the circus context which was the original justification for his suit, but at least the protective unitard makes sense. Now if we only knew how much double-sided tape Kory uses on a daily basis. Fans and various DC creatives wondered the same thing, which is why the editors of Batman encouraged fan submissions, including one Friendly Neighborhood-esque version published in the pages of Batman # 259 (November/December, 1974) for the feature titled, "A New Look for Robin"--But we would only see the Perez changes, which maintained a basic look, although he made some modernizong updates.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 5, 2019 10:09:40 GMT -5
John Broome dealt with super-villains' costumes in the pages of The Flash, with the revelation that there was indeed a tailor to the Rogues Gallery, at least. His name was Paul Gambi, a Central City tailor, who first showed up in Flash 141 (1963). Barry Allen visited him in disguise to scope out exactly what went on at Gambi's shop and then foiled his and the Top's plans, courtesy DC Science: Gambi was named for a Flash super-fan named Paul Gambaccini, whose letters were a constant in comic book letters pages back then, but particularly in The Flash's. Gambi made several appearances beyond the pages of The Flash over the years; we find out that he has a brother, Peter, alos a tailor, who is a key figure in Tony Isabella's Black Lightning series. NOTE: There is an unfortunate coda to Broome's immortalizing of a Flash fan back in the innocent Silver Age days. Just Google Gambaccini's name for the story.
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Post by rberman on Apr 5, 2019 10:27:47 GMT -5
The idea of specialist hardware and costume suppliers for villains was also used by Alan Moore in "Night Olympics" in Detective Comics #549.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 5, 2019 10:40:39 GMT -5
Of course, the reason why Dick continued with this costume was marketing. I never quite got that straight. It's not like Batman's costume hadn't any change from his first apparition, but Robin's was virtually identical from his debut. 1. The significant changes in Batman's costume were always done with marketing in mind. Can't bring in readers with better quality stories? Change the Bat symbol instead! 2. Batman's major costume changes occurred in the mid 1960s and in the 2000s. In the first case, DC hadn't yet been acquired by a large corporation that was concerned with marketing and licensing beyond the comic book page. In the second, Warner was pushing for a darker look to reflect the Post-Frank Miller edgy Batman that was selling so well with general audiences. 3. in the 1960s, Robin already had the clearly identifiable chest logo that DC was now giving to Batman 4. By the 2000s, Robin had already received two costume changes. So, unless there was clear money to be made in changing Robin's costume, Warner wasn't likely to approve it. Stick with the classic recognizable brand image.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 5, 2019 10:41:31 GMT -5
The idea of specialist hardware and costume suppliers for villains was also used by Alan Moore in "Night Olympics" in Detective Comics #549. Gambi is alluded to, though not mentioned by name, in that story.
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 5, 2019 10:55:51 GMT -5
Marvel had a guy called the Tinkerer that supplied weapons.
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Post by dbutler69 on Apr 5, 2019 12:41:26 GMT -5
I could be mistaken, but I think that, within the comic, they only refer to themselves as "Titans" not "Teen Titans". So, maybe they should have called the book "The New Titans" or simply "The Titans" if Wolfman really didn't want to evoke the original Teen Titans. Of course, they would eventually get around to that... From an interview with Marv Wolfman in The Comics Journal #79 (interview conducted in Jan 1982, appeared in print cover dated Jan 1983), which can be read here - DWIGHT R. DECKER: Have you considered the fact that “teenagehood’-‘ doesn’t last very long? Marv WOLFMAN: Yeah. DECKER: There’s only about four years there and if you stretch it out in comic book time… WOLFMAN: It is a problem. I don’t know what will happen. I assume, since I’ve just given Cyborg a birthday in which he becomes 19, they are going to have to become 20 and 21. Maybe I don’t have to say it, they could just start acting differently. Nor really differently but progressing beyond the initial worries that a teenager may have. They don’t really change, they just focus differently. From peer pressure to business pressure. But that has to happen eventually, I just don’t know how to get around it. Fortunately we’re still young in the book’s history. DECKER: Well you’ll always have the title NEW Teen Titans… WOLFMAN: Well that’s because we had an old Teen Titans… DECKER: What I meant was that… WOLFMAN: I can’t take our Teen, for very totally different reasons. Neal Adams registered or trademarked something called The Titans for his portfolio and we could nor technically take out the word teen. So it will always be the Teen Titans, even if they are 80 years old. That same issue of the Journal had an interview with George Perez, but I don't see it on that site. They do have other interviews with Wolfman and Perez, though, found here and here. I'm reading part 2 of that Wolfman interview you linked to, and he says that the Runaways story, which I think is #26, is he first one where Perez does full pencils! I was shocked. ('With the “Runaways” story he completely followed the plot. I don’t think there was a single change. He tells me that I caught without knowing it a relative of his very closely, and it made him care about the story even more. It’s the first issue of the Titans that he did full pencils, he used to do layouts on the book.') I thought Perez started doing full pencils much sooner.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 12:46:36 GMT -5
I always liked this combination of the Dynamic Duo ... right now, I liked this costume for Robin for its uniqueness and quite different.
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Post by zaku on Apr 5, 2019 13:16:15 GMT -5
I always liked this combination of the Dynamic Duo ... right now, I liked this costume for Robin for its uniqueness and quite different. Wasn't the Batman of Earth-2 already retired (or semi-retired) when his Robin adopted this costume?
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Post by badwolf on Apr 5, 2019 13:44:36 GMT -5
They made Robin's costume 100 times better simply by getting rid of the bare legs. I couldn't believe they hadn't done it much sooner.
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 5, 2019 13:54:26 GMT -5
Gambi made several appearances beyond the pages of The Flash over the years; we find out that he has a brother, Peter, alos a tailor, who is a key figure in Tony Isabella's Black Lightning series. I am enjoying James Remar's take on Gambi on the Black Lightning TV series.
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