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Post by rberman on Apr 6, 2020 21:49:54 GMT -5
I was just minding my own business, watching a Star Wars blooper reel. One of the shots involved Boba Fett shooting at an Ewok inside the Imperial base on the forest moon of Endor. This is the first I've heard of a version of RoTJ in which Boba Fett appeared at the end rather than the beginning. Anybody know more?
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 8, 2020 12:22:25 GMT -5
I was just minding my own business, watching a Star Wars blooper reel. One of the shots involved Boba Fett shooting at an Ewok inside the Imperial base on the forest moon of Endor. This is the first I've heard of a version of RoTJ in which Boba Fett appeared at the end rather than the beginning. Anybody know more? That was gag footage from a short film that David Tomblin did, Return of the Ewok.... It was a sort of mockumentary, with Wicket walking around the studios. You see production people and actors. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 8, 2020 14:27:09 GMT -5
I watched the original, pre-special edition versions a lot as a kid, but never felt particularly endeared to them when compared to Star Trek. I like A New Hope more than the other films, even if they are better in every way. A New Hope just kind of feels like you're going on a grand space adventure to fight and defeat a bad guy? IDK, it just felt more in tune with what Lucas set out to do by riffing on a Flash Gordon serial from the 40's
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 8, 2020 14:46:43 GMT -5
I have no idea what this New Hope film is. The movie I saw in 1977 was titled Star Wars and nothing else.  Star Wars is pure escapist fun in a time when such films were very rare. it was a throwback to old fashioned adventure movies; but with modern techniques. Empire was a good character study. Jedi ends up being a disappointment, though with more positives than negatives. Expectations had been built up too high and nothing was likely to pull off a win for everyone. The space battle and the lightsaber duel are both excellent, but the stuff on Endor is pretty mixed, as is some of Jabba's palace. It was also the first time concessions were being made to selling merchandise and promoting a franchise, rather than a film. |
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Post by Duragizer on Apr 9, 2020 1:37:14 GMT -5
They say familiarity breeds contempt. I'm in no position to disagree.
If Star Wars had ended at some point between 1977 and 1999, I'd still have a healthy appreciation for the original films. But overexposure and stagnation are spiritual necrosis.
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 11, 2020 7:20:46 GMT -5
They say familiarity breeds contempt. I'm in no position to disagree. If Star Wars had ended at some point between 1977 and 1999, I'd still have a healthy appreciation for the original films. But overexposure and stagnation are spiritual necrosis. Do you mean overexposure of the brand in general (with all of the ancillary material produced) or just that original trilogy? |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 11, 2020 17:03:29 GMT -5
They say familiarity breeds contempt. I'm in no position to disagree. If Star Wars had ended at some point between 1977 and 1999, I'd still have a healthy appreciation for the original films. But overexposure and stagnation are spiritual necrosis. Do you mean overexposure of the brand in general (with all of the ancillary material produced) or just that original trilogy? That’s a good question, as the original trilogy still strikes me as holding up nicely after all this time. It’s like the first Pirates of the Caribbean; it never gets old, no matter how bad the sequels got. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 11, 2020 17:19:45 GMT -5
Do you mean overexposure of the brand in general (with all of the ancillary material produced) or just that original trilogy? That’s a good question, as the original trilogy still strikes me as holding up nicely after all this time. It’s like the first Pirates of the Caribbean; it never gets old, no matter how bad the sequels got. Well, I'll agree with you on part of that statement, though I don't know about Pirates of the Caribbean..... I watched only that one and found I'd rather watch Burt Lancaster, in The Crimson Pirate. Or Robert Newton in Treasure Island or Blackbeard the Pirate. C'est la vie! |
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Post by Duragizer on Apr 11, 2020 20:47:53 GMT -5
They say familiarity breeds contempt. I'm in no position to disagree. If Star Wars had ended at some point between 1977 and 1999, I'd still have a healthy appreciation for the original films. But overexposure and stagnation are spiritual necrosis. Do you mean overexposure of the brand in general (with all of the ancillary material produced) or just that original trilogy? The brand. |
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 11, 2020 21:01:18 GMT -5
Do you mean overexposure of the brand in general (with all of the ancillary material produced) or just that original trilogy? The brand. It was too popular to die off completely, even you have to admit that |
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Post by berkley on Apr 11, 2020 21:03:11 GMT -5
Yeah, the first two films will always be great. The later stuff hasn't changed my feelings for Star Wars and The Empire Strikes back. I gave up watching the new stuff, for the most part. Rogue 1 and The Mandalorian were both good, though.
Maybe one day, they should do remakes of the prequels and sequels: film-makers tend to want to re-make proven classics that can't be improved on and don't need to be "up-dated" or modernised or whatever. Why not re-make failures and do them better?
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 11, 2020 21:11:17 GMT -5
Maybe one day, they should do remakes of the prequels and sequels: film-makers tend to want to re-make proven classics that can't be improved on and don't need to be "up-dated" or modernised or whatever. Why not re-make failures and do them better? Remaking the original trilogy just seems like utter sacrilege. I mean you could, theoretically, but why would you?
Episodes 1, 2, and 3 though? Have at it, maybe it will actually make them better. And I don't think that the prequels are bad films, just ones that were told badly
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Post by berkley on Apr 11, 2020 21:20:27 GMT -5
Maybe one day, they should do remakes of the prequels and sequels: film-makers tend to want to re-make proven classics that can't be improved on and don't need to be "up-dated" or modernised or whatever. Why not re-make failures and do them better? Remaking the original trilogy just seems like utter sacrilege. I mean you could, theoretically, but why would you?
Episodes 1, 2, and 3 though? Have at it, maybe it will actually make them better. And I don't think that the prequels are bad films, just ones that were told badly
Exactly, re-make the bad ones, i.e. not the original trilogy but the prequels and sequels.
Actually, I partially agree about the prequels - they looked fantastic and I think they may one day be considered flawed classics themselves just on that score. So just the sequels then. Re-make those. Or re-rewrite them altogether.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 11, 2020 21:28:39 GMT -5
Actually, I partially agree about the prequels - they looked fantastic and I think they may one day be considered flawed classics themselves just on that score. Ever since Disney bought the rights to the franchise, there's been hundreds of articles about how the prequels are good. And while I think there is some inherent merit to that, I think it's honestly just nostalgia goggles because I too liked episode 1 when it came out because it was new and fresh and I was 10. And things you like when you're ten, you probably won't like or appreciate as much when you're older. There's a reason why I don't eat ketchup and cheese sandwiches anymore like I did when I was in kindergarten |
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Post by Duragizer on Apr 11, 2020 23:24:57 GMT -5
Maybe one day, they should do remakes of the prequels and sequels: film-makers tend to want to re-make proven classics that can't be improved on and don't need to be "up-dated" or modernised or whatever. Why not re-make failures and do them better? Remaking the original trilogy just seems like utter sacrilege. I mean you could, theoretically, but why would you? If you've an intriguing reinterpretation in mind, why wouldn't you? Mythologies evolve and diversify, and Star Wars is a modern mythology. Of course, I wouldn't expect Hollywood to crank out an OT remake which is anything but the original OT, only "faster, more intense". |
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