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Post by shaxper on Jun 25, 2019 13:10:20 GMT -5
The historian in me says the original Bill Parker-C.C. Beck version is THE Captain Marvel, with the Ordway reinterpretation (a personal fave) adding to the equation. But my nostalgic side really wanted to vote for Monica Rambeau. I love the Stern-era Avengers, especially after the Buscema-Palmer team came onboard, and Monica's Cap was a big reason why. I know some fans decry her as a Mary Sue but I disagree. She was already smart, strong, competent, and confident (albeit held back professionally by her gender) before gaining her powers, as well as having the good sense to realize she was in over her head and turn to the Avengers for help. Her home base in New Orleans was a nice change of pace, and her warm, healthy relationship with her parents was refreshing. Watching her grow into both her amazing powers and her role as one of Earth's defenders was a pleasure. My only complaint was her original design. I liked the color scheme but the glider vanes looked clumsy except when in flight and her hair style could only work in comics. Sometimes I think she would've become a super-star and fan favorite if she'd started with a more dynamic look and a different name. Cei-U! I summon the underdog! Monica was Captain Marvel the first time I heard the name, and yet I've read almost none of the Avengers books from that era. I really need to familiarize myself further. All the same, I do love her for the nostalgia factor, and my favorite aspect of the recent Captain Marvel film was her presence as a supporting character who maybe (just maybe) will get a chance to grow into the role in the MCU. |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jun 25, 2019 13:14:21 GMT -5
(...) my nostalgic side really wanted to vote for Monica Rambeau. I love the Stern-era Avengers, especially after the Buscema-Palmer team came onboard, and Monica's Cap was a big reason why. I know some fans decry her as a Mary Sue but I disagree. She was already smart, strong, competent, and confident (albeit held back professionally by her gender) before gaining her powers, as well as having the good sense to realize she was in over her head and turn to the Avengers for help. Her home base in New Orleans was a nice change of pace, and her warm, healthy relationship with her parents was refreshing. Watching her grow into both her amazing powers and her role as one of Earth's defenders was a pleasure. My only complaint was her original design. I liked the color scheme but the glider vanes looked clumsy except when in flight and her hair style could only work in comics. Sometimes I think she would've become a super-star and fan favorite if she'd started with a more dynamic look and a different name. QFT, every word of it, esp. the bolded part. Couldn't agree more, or have summed it up better myself. |
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Post by Crimebuster on Jun 25, 2019 13:32:57 GMT -5
I voted for Monica! My first issue of Avengers was #256, so she is my Captain Marvel. For me, the classic era of Avengers ends with #285; after that, editorial interference aimed specifically at Monica derailed the series for a decade and it never fully recovered. When Monica went down, the title went down with her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 16:51:10 GMT -5
After She-Thing, I would had selected Mary Marvel ... because I like her very much in her White and Yellow outfit to give her an more different identity than the traditional red outfit.  |
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 25, 2019 16:57:57 GMT -5
I would normally have voted for Billy Batson, but Carol has been getting some decent coverage lately, in the movie and in the comics (though I liked the 2011 series a lot more than the current one, which isn't bad), so I voted for Carol!
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Jun 25, 2019 17:09:58 GMT -5
Mar-Vell for me, his book ended as I started actively collecting, I read that last issue (with the glorious Pat Broderick art) to shreds.
The red and black/blue outfit is IMHO one of THE greatest supersuits of all time, a Gil Kane classic.
He got Jim Starlin"d into something better.
I was there too for The Death Of... as it happened, and to this day one of the most moving comics you will ever read.
The classic Shazam would have to be pretty high, though I'm not anal enough to insist on him being CM. Better things to do than argue semantics.
Monica Rambeau...meh Dislike immensely the white lycra/afro, though to be fair I do like her now as Spectrum.
Carol's pretty cool too, tho only with a good writer, so every 2nd or 3rd series from Marvel.
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Post by rberman on Jun 25, 2019 17:22:50 GMT -5
I would have chosen Kurt Busiek's The Gentleman, but he was not an option.  Good arguments could be made for Danvers and Rambeau, but I enjoy much about Willow Wilson's recent re-imagining of Ms. Marvel, a coming-of-age story in the spirit of early Spider-Man.  |
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Post by Confessor on Jun 25, 2019 18:11:54 GMT -5
I voted for Micky/Michael Moran -- the British Marvelman published by L. Miller & Son in the 1950s, and then revived by Alan Moore in the 1980s and continued by Neil Gaiman. The original Marvelman strips that I've read were fun, light-weight fluff, with fairly pedestrian artwork, but Moore's interpretation of the character is a bit of a masterpiece, as far as I'm concerned. Pretty much every issue of Moore's run can illicit murmurs of, "man, this is great!", from me while I'm reading them. It's truly something a bit special. Gaiman's take on the story is highly enjoyable, even if it doesn't quite reach the heights of Moore's tenure on the book. However, I am very much looking forward to seeing how Gaiman ends the story....and word is that we should get a new issue later this year. Maybe.   I have almost no interest at all in Fawcett's Marvel family, and precious little for Marvel's various Captain Marvels either. None of those characters have ever really "spoken" to me for some reason. |
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Post by berkley on Jun 25, 2019 18:42:32 GMT -5
I went with Mar-Vell, since that's the character I grew up reading and always had a liking for. I think it's a pretty strong character concept - the decorated officer who switches sides to defend the people he was supposed to be infiltrating.
But if we were voting which comic series was best it would be Moore's Marvelman (Miracleman in the American edition i read), hands down.
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 25, 2019 18:52:45 GMT -5
I have almost no interest at all in Fawcett's Marvel family, and precious little for Marvel's various Captain Marvels either. None of those characters have ever really "spoken" to me for some reason. B-but... Marvelman, Young Marvelman etc. were literally continuing the Fawcett Marvel Family, even down to the C.C.Beck style art. They are the same just changed slightly because of the copyright loss Fawcett experienced in 1953.    <- #23-25 (1953-54) |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 25, 2019 19:08:16 GMT -5
Here's a very cute piece of fan art, thought it should also be here.   |
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Post by Confessor on Jun 25, 2019 19:28:06 GMT -5
I have almost no interest at all in Fawcett's Marvel family, and precious little for Marvel's various Captain Marvels either. None of those characters have ever really "spoken" to me for some reason. B-but... Marvelman, Young Marvelman etc. were literally continuing the Fawcett Marvel Family, even down to the C.C.Beck style art. They are the same just changed slightly because of the copyright loss Fawcett experienced in 1953. Interesting. I knew that the Marvelman characters were heavily influenced by the Fawcett Marvel family, but, prompted by your post, I just read up on it on Wikipedia. As you rightly say, Marvelman was meant to essentially continue on from the point where copyright trouble stopped publication of U.S. reprints of Captain Marvel in the UK. That surprises me because the old Marvelman strips I've read are rather British and, specifically, very 1950s British, in terms of their stories and characters. I don't recall much American influence outside of the core superhero/Superman aesthetic. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Jun 25, 2019 19:31:14 GMT -5
I added the covers from the transition period to my post. I saw them in a book by Denis Gifford originally though.
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Post by rberman on Jun 25, 2019 19:32:24 GMT -5
While we're on the topic, revel in this Alex Ross rendition of all the Captains Marvel!  |
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Post by Duragizer on Jun 25, 2019 20:31:53 GMT -5
I choose Jean Grey (Marvel Girl). I don't have more than a passing familiarity with any of the listed characters.
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