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Post by shaxper on Jan 29, 2021 14:17:58 GMT -5
Hell, a fan-made film of issue #6 "24 Hour Diner" that can be seen on YouTube has gotten very good reviews from the hardcore comic reading Sandman fanbase. This is the benchmark from which I will be judging it. Amber and I just rewatched "24 Hour Diner" last night in anticipation of the new series.
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Post by mrbrklyn on Jan 29, 2021 21:01:30 GMT -5
I see no way they can do this from the comic. Sandman was very much a uniquely comic work that depends on comic book techniques. I dunno, I don't think that's as true with The Sandman as it was for, say, Alan Moore's Watchmen. And the Watchmen movie turned out OK -- not great, mind you, but OK. Better than I expected it to for sure! So, I don't see that as such a stumbling block for The Sandman. Hell, a fan-made film of issue #6 "24 Hour Diner" that can be seen on YouTube has gotten very good reviews from the hardcore comic reading Sandman fanbase. The Sandman also seems to have worked pretty well as audio adaptations on Audible, although I confess I've not listened to any of them (I'm just repeating what I've read from fans and critics). The proof will be in the pudding, of course. This might suck! But I don't see adapting The Sandman for the screen as being as difficult as adapting Watchmen. Plus, Neil Gaiman is fully involved in the forthcoming show, which ought to ensure respect for the source material, I would think. With the Watchman, they had a tradiaitonal storyline to work around. Sandman had many pages and panels where the comic art tells the sotry on multiple levels of meaning. That really can't be repoduced in video/film etc. Comics ARE unique. Not all theater can be adequately adapted to cinema etc. Not all books translate to film (Moby Dick for example). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is uniquely comic driven. or this One of the most interesting things about the Sandman was that the different artists that were used at differeent times allowed for fliud and different story telling technique.
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Post by Confessor on Jan 30, 2021 0:40:17 GMT -5
I dunno, I don't think that's as true with The Sandman as it was for, say, Alan Moore's Watchmen. And the Watchmen movie turned out OK -- not great, mind you, but OK. Better than I expected it to for sure! So, I don't see that as such a stumbling block for The Sandman. Hell, a fan-made film of issue #6 "24 Hour Diner" that can be seen on YouTube has gotten very good reviews from the hardcore comic reading Sandman fanbase. The Sandman also seems to have worked pretty well as audio adaptations on Audible, although I confess I've not listened to any of them (I'm just repeating what I've read from fans and critics). The proof will be in the pudding, of course. This might suck! But I don't see adapting The Sandman for the screen as being as difficult as adapting Watchmen. Plus, Neil Gaiman is fully involved in the forthcoming show, which ought to ensure respect for the source material, I would think. With the Watchman, they had a tradiaitonal storyline to work around. Sandman had many pages and panels where the comic art tells the sotry on multiple levels of meaning. That really can't be repoduced in video/film etc. Comics ARE unique. Not all theater can be adequately adapted to cinema etc. Not all books translate to film (Moby Dick for example). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is uniquely comic driven. or this One of the most interesting things about the Sandman was that the different artists that were used at differeent times allowed for fliud and different story telling technique. A lot of the above was also true of Watchmen, but I think the key word here is "adaptation". The success or lack thereof of this small screen version of The Sandman will lie in how well it's adapted. You'll always have the comic if you want the experience of reading the comic. The goal of this or any screen adaptation a book -- comic or otherwise -- is to adapt the material so that it works in a new medium. So, it won't work in exactly the same way as the comic. How could it? But it could potentially work in ways that are unique to film and end up being a satisfactory and enjoyable adaptation. If you're expecting the comic from a TV show you're always going to be disappointed. That doesn't mean that this couldn't potentially be equally as enjoyable on its own merits. Or not.
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Post by mrbrklyn on Feb 6, 2021 5:17:34 GMT -5
So, it won't work in exactly the same way as the comic. How could it? But it could potentially work in ways that are unique to film and end up being a satisfactory and enjoyable adaptation. That is an excellent point. Perhaps, though, more than most works, a TV adaption will be very different than the comic. FWIW, Gibson's art in the Watchman, IMO, made the movie adaption very much straight forward. It could almost be done panel by panel.
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