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Post by kasparhauser on Jul 7, 2019 5:13:37 GMT -5
The Batman/Superman friendship ended in World's Finest #323 - pre-crisis. The story is nothing to write home about, something about vampire-werewolves who use magic that affects Superman. First of all, it is interesting that this is not made out to be some sort of big event. Instead, it just happens in the last three pages. You don't really get any impression before that Batman is kinda pissed off at Superman, or is there some tension introduced in the titles before? The end is completely random to me, and could have been attached to any of the dozens of stories where Superman somehow makes a mistake (but Batman makes them, too, it's kinda there to get a story, you know): This is how DC ended a decades long, iconic friendship back in the day. Feels more like, well, now we have kinda solved this in continuity, so we can continue with post-crisis (where this scene, chronologically, couldn't have happened as in the post-crisis world Batman and Superman never had been real friends until a lot of years into the reboot). So I am interested, has there some progression towards this state in previous issues? Batman appears "Frank Miller"-ized in those last panels. I know that in 1983, Batman and the Outsiders came out that had Batman acting like a jerk towards the Justice League and in the end comments with a dry "I like the way your mind works" when one of his new Outsider team members throws the dictator into a mob of his people who then lynch-kill him. Regular single-title Batman would not have acted like that, considering this is 1983...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2019 6:27:59 GMT -5
Nice Write-Up Here.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 8, 2019 22:43:23 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that this came completely out of left field - I don't recall anything in previous issues even suggesting that Superman and Batman were on the outs. Mike Barr did have Superman acting as a government stooge and Batman acting pretty teenage angsty in Batman and the Outsiders #1 (interestingly, in that debut issue Barr notes in what will eventually become the letter column that this storyline grew out of his talks with Frank Miller hence Batman and Superman acting so out of character) but that split was addressed and repaired in World's Finest 300. and two issues later we were getting stuff like this and even the cover of that final issue of World's Finest didn't contain a hint at the rift this issue slapped onto its final pages. dcfandom.com's write up for this issue ( dc.fandom.com/wiki/World%27s_Finest_Vol_1_323 ) notes that: Although this is the final issue of the series, the end wasn't supposed to be permanent as indicated in the cover. On the paragraph written by editor Janice Race in the letter page, she explains that the higher-ups at DC Comics decided to stop the publication of the comic, but that they would eventually resume publication after the concept has been reformulated. However, the events that transcended in 1986, made it rather impossible to start publishing something remotely similar to World's Finest. Namely there was the conclusion to the Crisis on Infinite Earths, which created a whole new continuity and there was also the rise in popularity of Batman as a dark character, born out of characterizations like the one in the Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, where Superman and Batman don't get along at all.
It sounds as if the mischaracterisations here aren't as random as they seem, but an attempt to be "hip and with it" so as to save the title. If the choice were between keeping World's Finest going but adhering to Frank Miller's interpretations of the characters then I'm glad the title was spared this black mark.
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