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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 15, 2019 22:32:46 GMT -5
Wasn't there a New Years Evil thing a decade or so back? Or maybe more. Time flies and/or runs together as you become aged. Two decades. It was '98. -M Gadzooks! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 3:00:01 GMT -5
The announcement I know everyone here has been waiting for... Rob Liefeld to do GI Joe Snake Eyes comic for IDWImagine my surprise when there were feet on both variants of the promo poster...  Liefeld describes this as a bucket list project. I'm not sure if this is because it is a dream project for him or because it looks like Snake Eyes is wearing a bucket on his head... But god love Liefled and his enthusiasm. Someone must keep buying his stuff, he keeps getting work. -M |
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Post by brutalis on Jul 16, 2019 8:15:57 GMT -5
I am not a big Liefeld follower, but I will admit, those covers don't look look horrible at all. He has kept Snake Eyes in believable heroic fashion. Will the insides be as good? Will have to wait and see, but will check it out at the very least.
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 16, 2019 9:59:34 GMT -5
Liefeld is a mess, but, I remember when he first hit the scene and his work had energy and grabbed you.
I wasn't the biggest mutant fan, but I was buying those New Mutants, and later, X-Force titles, at least for a year or so, mostly due to Rob's dynamic, if not anatomically correct, pencils.
He deserves the crap he gets, but, a lot of someone's still like his work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 13:17:44 GMT -5
Warren Ellis and Bryn Hitch are teaming on a 12 issue mini-series for DC called The Batman's Grave:format(webp):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/18313402/Hitch_Batman_grave.jpg) Due out in October. -M |
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 17, 2019 1:38:06 GMT -5
Marvel turns down Steve Rude monthly. THIS is what's wrong with Marvel. Unbelieveable
I don't need to know anything else other than Steve frickin Rude is doing a "monthly" for Marvel ?
Totally in to the last issue and they blew it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 3:05:01 GMT -5
Marvel turns down Steve Rude monthly. THIS is what's wrong with Marvel. Unbelieveable I don't need to know anything else other than Steve frickin Rude is doing a "monthly" for Marvel ? Totally in to the last issue and they blew it.
Well it could have been a horrible pitch, it could be a pitch for something already in development by someone else or with a core concept that the have in the works already or conflicts with another project they have already greenlit, they could have looked at Rude's history and realized he never has been able to keep a monthly schedule and asked him to do several issues in advance before accepting it or other assurances he could keep such a schedule and he refused, it could have been a pitch for an Aunt May becomes the Punisher maxi-series, or for something that didn't work and they asked him to pitch something else and he refused. We don't know. Creators pitch all the time and 90% of them get rejected. Professionals usually don't talk about their rejections except in the vaguest terms, and then it usually comes across as sour grapes. So no it's not unbelievable that a pitch from Rude got rejected. Happens all the time to just about every creator. Unless and until we know what the pitch was and why it was rejected, everyone is just making huge assumptions and getting worked up over things that may just be another day in the office for some creators. But hey jumping to conclusions and pointing fingers at the big two for being clueless is always fun. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 15:43:03 GMT -5
Here's Ed Brubaker, in his newslettter, talking about the new Ellis/Hitch Batman maxi I posted about earlier in the thread...
-M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 17, 2019 16:03:03 GMT -5
Ellis and Hitch are two of the few creators that might...just might...get me interested in a Batman book.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 18, 2019 8:13:00 GMT -5
I generally like Batman, but with a creative team like that who'd want to say no?
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 18, 2019 14:42:35 GMT -5
Steve Rude doing a Marvel series might have gotten me try out a new Marvel book outside of Conan and Star Wars. I get where hondo is coming from with his "this is what's wrong with Marvel" comment. It seems like the newer creator's (usually artists) I'm interested in are always wasted on crappy event's, teamed with mediocre modern writers or just not prolific enough.
When a "classic" creator is in talks with Marvel, it always seems to end badly. I'm guessing it has more to do with page rates and the creator's feeling that they're too established to put up with the BS of the modern corporate structure of the Big Two. The way Jim Starlin was treated recently was disgraceful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 15:24:20 GMT -5
Let me just start by saying I love Steve Rude's stuff, and personally I think the monthly schedule is a detriment to the quality of work in the industry and an archaic format. That being said, if you are pitching a monthly product, you better be able to deliver on that if you want your pitch to be accepted.
Steve Rude has in his storied career, never been able to deliver a monthly book on time. Hell, his longest run on a book was Nexus, which was bi-monthly and still plagued by delays and required fill ins and back ups to meet any semblance of a schedule. Rude also has a reputation of being notoriously difficult to deal with.
But when his pitch for a monthly book gets rejected, everyone assumes it's because there's something wrong with the company?
I am not saying Marvel is in the right, or Rude was in the wrong, but everyone is siding with a guy whose promising something he has never been able to deliver and calling the other guys the bad guys. Everyone points to Marvel's track record with creators. Ok, then also look at Rude's track record with deadlines, meeting schedules and dealing with editorial when playing with other people's toys too? (hint they have all been short and many have still had delays in release schedule because Rude didn't meet deadlines, none have been ongoing monthlies). It's easy to side with a person over a corporation. We all want the artist to be the hero, and we all want more Rude work, but there's probably a lot more to this than Marvel hates classic creators and is an awful company because they won't make the books that I want to read.
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Post by brutalis on Jul 18, 2019 15:32:47 GMT -5
And you have to recognize also with Rude that his taste/style/tone are all wrapped in "nostalgic/classic" types of Marvel from the 60's/70's. Something that he prefers and does well but which may be a difficult and hard sell to current management and readers. I too would love to see more Rude, but as @mrp notes, Rude doesn't have the best track record/history with Marvel (or other companies) to guarantee a YES for anything he pitches. Does it suck that so many GREAT artists are ignored or put aside? Damn straight, but it is the reality of ANY business that they seek younger/cheaper workers over older and skilled. Some days I really loathe the "Corporate" thought processes...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 15:41:55 GMT -5
And you have to recognize also with Rude that his taste/style/tone are all wrapped in "nostalgic/classic" types of Marvel from the 60's/70's. Something that he prefers and does well but which may be a difficult and hard sell to current management and readers. I too would love to see more Rude, but as @mrp notes, Rude doesn't have the best track record/history with Marvel (or other companies) to guarantee a YES for anything he pitches. Does it suck that so many GREAT artists are ignored or put aside? Damn straight, but it is the reality of ANY business that they seek younger/cheaper workers over older and skilled. Some days I really loathe the "Corporate" thought processes... And again, in a market where sales of 50K puts you as a top 20 book, revenues aren't there on books to pay top dollar on any but your best sellers. It's a business reality that works against creators, and honestly, why would a top creator want to toil on a work-for-hire book in this market when creator-owned work offers much more total earning potential than just a page rate does. Especially if you are a freelancer and that page rate doesn't come with any kind of benefits like insurance for example. Creator-owned doesn't either, but there is a lot more earning potential there than with the big 2 work=for-hire contracts, the trade-off is most of it is in the back end and makes making ends meet tough in the interim. Personally, if I were a creator, I would be pitching the graphic novel imprints of the big book publishers that offer advances and royalties not page rates or back end deals instead of wasting time with the direct market publishers. -M |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 19, 2019 9:22:50 GMT -5
Yikes, so I just read the full guest list hereHo Che Anderson (who did the wonderful MLK biocomics) Mary Fleener Jaimie Hernandez Terry Moore Nate Powell Dav Pilky (Capt. Underpants, Dog Boy) PCR and others besides Mignola. I think I need to go this year... -M That is a great line up, wish I could go. |
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