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Post by driver1980 on Oct 14, 2024 12:26:58 GMT -5
Ladies and gentlemen, we have an idiot on Twitter: x.com/THEVinceRusso/status/1845872202606096405Does he not realise that NOBODY tuned in to WCW programming or thought about ordering the PPV because Vince Russo won the world title? The guy is deluded. I remember so many conversations I had about what was keeping me hooked. For example, I remember wanting to see SummerSlam ‘90 to see if Hulk Hogan would avenge the beating he took from Earthquake. That’s one of many examples. Russo booking himself to win the world title would not result in anyone buying PPVs (he only held the belt for a few days) or tuning in. The worst part for me is that after 20+ years, he has learnt *nothing*. Every poor decision he made - and it’s a long list - wasn’t bad. He can’t own up to any flaws. He can’t say, “You know, maybe I shouldn’t have done this or that.” No, everything he did was right in his own stupid mind. He somehow thinks a few words about David Arquette’s world title win in USA Today is a success. He thinks him winning the world title was ‘entertaining’ and that’s all that matters. What a complete ignorance of the reality of making money and attracting viewers. Does he really believe his own crap or is he lying to us? Surely even he knows that some of the things he did were illogical and nonsensical? How do you get to 63 years of age and be incapable of taking ownership of even *one* mistake? |
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 14, 2024 21:06:48 GMT -5
Anyone ever play this game? (I did not)  I owned it; I thought it was a decent game, if you used a cheater joystick controller. Using the standard Nintendo controls it was hard to compete. With a joystick controller and a repeater option, you could could be competitive in the initial punch-kick face off, then be able to toss the opponent in the ropes and hit them with offensive moves, like dropkicks, power slams and a running knee lift. You could also climb the turnbuckle and hit them with splashes or knee drops and go for a finishing hold, if they were weak enough. Play was in a tournament format and you progressed until you faced a masked giant, who was basically an unlicensed Andre, in a generic mask (not the Giant Machine mask). He was hard to beat, but I got to where I could do it, playing Mike Rotunda. Rotunda had a running knee lift which was great for repeated attacks on the giant, to weaken him enough to drop him to the mat and then use the turnbuckles to repeatedly drop knees on him, until you could go for the pin and win the World title. Playable wrestlers included: Ric Flair, Ricky Steamboat, Mike Rotunda, Rick Steiner, Sting, both Road Warriors and , I think, Kevin Sullivan. Flair's finisher sort of looked like the Figure 4, but it was no different than the Scorpion Leglock, for Sting, with the graphics. Rotunda had the Butterfly Suplex, as did the real wrestler. Someone might have had a pile driver, but I can't recall clearly enough. Some of the characters threw drop kicks when you tossed the opponent into the ropes and others used clotheslines or bodyslams. I found Rotunda to be the best for attacking any of the other characters and the only one I could ever play to beat the masked giant in the finals. I believe you could also play in tag team mode and switch back and forth between members. I used the Road Warriors for that, though occasionally used Sting and Steamboat or Flair and Steamboat. I preferred that game to the WWF King of the Ring game, for Nintendo. Easier to control the characters, more varied moves (which figures, since Crockett/WCW had better ring action, in terms of variety of moves) and a better format for the game, better simulating a real match, even with the primitive graphics. It wasn't as fun as Pit Fighter, where you got points for brutalizing your opponent and could do things like repeated foot stomps on then, or throw them into walls. I used to use that to beat the female fighter you met, early on, as she could be nasty to fight, if you stuck to punches and kicks, unless you caught her lunging in. It was easier to take a couple of hits while you hit the lift sequence and then pick her up overhead, carry her over to the wall and slam her against it, then just start raining heel stomps on her for brutality points. I pretty much always used the kickboxer character on that game. I preferred games where I just shot things in my path. Fight games often required too much pushing of buttons, or specific sequences of buttons and it was easier to do aerial combat games, Space Invader clones (Galaga, Gaplus, Galaxian, etc) or side scrollers where you just shot at opponents. For that, I had the Thunderbirds game (based on the Gerry Anderson show, where you piloted the different vehicles in different environments), a fighter game (can't recall the name), Spy Hunter, and Rolling Thunder (actually had an arcade version of that, on my ship). The latter was the side scrolling spy game. You had a pistol and fired at hooded enemies, while moving through a building, going up and down stairs or ladders to get to different levels. You'd find armament rooms, where you could pick up a machine gun, for rapid fire, and ammo staches. You also had to jump over crates and gaps. It always felt like the episodes of Speed Racer, where he and Racer X would battle against enemy spies, like in the two-part "Gang of Assassins" (with pseudo-ninja assassins and a trick car). |
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 14, 2024 21:36:06 GMT -5
I wonder if there is any truth to this: Wrestlenomics often has pretty accurate financial and statistical info; but, that sounds like someone is being fed a line of BS or it is a hoax. In the first place, they aren't publicly traded, so Meltzer couldn't buy up stock. He could have been an investment partner, but would have to be listed with other corporate officers or what ever he used as an investing body. He could have been given a stake, by Tony Khan; but, I highly doubt it. I'm willing to bet that, at best, he has been paid consultancy fees, for giving input to Khan, like Cornette, when he first met with him about potentially working for them. Corny had to sign an NDA, but has alluded to the fact that it was about working behind the scenes and on air. he turned him down, which he has openly stated; but then says he can't go into specifics. I could see a deal like that. As far as investing; Dave has made good money off the observer and subsidiary elements; but I think we are talking like 6 figures, not seven figures (or not very high seven figures, at best). I can't see him having enough money to invest in that kind of stake. Also, Tony didn't need outside investment; his father gave him the money, via an LLC corporation he set up to basically give Tony and his sister their inheritance. Corny has talked about it, based on Kevin Kelly's lawsuit and court filings (from research by Wrestlenomics). AEW is listed as owned by Beathnick LLC, which had also invested in Black News Network, before it declared bankruptcy, in 2022, and was sold to Byron Allen's group. Beatnick LLC is listed as Tony and his sister, and a Thomas D Clarkson, who is listed as secretary for Fastenal, which is Shad Khan's company, where all the money originated. People are more speculating about WBD owning a piece of it, but those court filings show no stake by them. If you are wondering about the thumbnail, Corny makes Maynard G Krebbs (Bob Denver, on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis) references and Little Shop of Horrors (the original Roger Corman film, not the later musical) references, based on "beatnik," as a pop culture representation of beatniks. I just think the idea is BS being thrown around by people who want to find a secret collusion between Dave Meltzer and AEW, because of his praise. The fact of the matter is Meltzer has long praised some of the people involved and Pro Wrestling Guerrilla, where guys like the Young Bucks and Christopher Daniels originated or worked heavily. he has long ties to Daniels and some of the others. he just likes their style, regardless of the psychology or lack thereof. I also think he got too close to people there to be objective and also genuinely feels he needs to praise it to help keep it vital, to continue to have an audience. He also praised TNA highly, even if he gave lower ratings to a lot of matches (especially early on, when Russo was running amok, with The Johnsons and that s@#$). I have no dog in the hunt, as I didn't care for AEW's product, when I tried it and left the WWE behind back in the early 00s. Neither present the kind of wrestling I enjoyed. More power to you if you like it. I didn't think the AWA was that bad, until the tail end, while others felt it went in the toilet in 1984, after the defections. Some people say ICW looked like low rent junk; I loved it, especially if Randy, Lanny or Ron Garvin were wrestling. The only decent promos were Garvin, Pez Whatley and Randy (and Randy's because he was just plain nuts) as the rest weren't very good at it (Lanny was never an exciting promo and the poems were a better talking gimmick for him than babyface promos ever were. Angelo was a decent promo, though, as The Miser. Thesz help you if you had to sit through a George Weingeroff promo. Between being distracted by his eyes (he was legally blind), he just wasn't a good talker. Smooth as silk on the mat, but not good at babyface fire and had a heavy Tennessee accent and not a powerful voice. Pez icked you off and was entertaining, which was perfect, and he could go on the mat. |
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 15, 2024 7:15:09 GMT -5
Will anybody be buying Hulk Hogan’s beer?  |
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Post by commond on Oct 15, 2024 8:38:35 GMT -5
I wish Trump make Hogan his running mate. Hogan as vice president would be amazing.
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 15, 2024 8:54:29 GMT -5
The latest issue of Inside the Ropes has a feature on the history of cage matches. Three paragraphs in particular caught my eye:    |
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 15, 2024 11:38:45 GMT -5
I wish Trump make Hogan his running mate. Hogan as vice president would be amazing. @#$% that; even as a nightmare fantasy! Dusty Rhodes for president would have made for more entertaining speeches. Just ask the New Breed, They sure watched a lot of cartoons, though. Possibly while high. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 15, 2024 11:39:27 GMT -5
Will anybody be buying Hulk Hogan’s beer? Let 'em buy his own beer; he's got money. Well, what Linda left him. |
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 15, 2024 11:58:53 GMT -5
I wish Trump make Hogan his running mate. Hogan as vice president would be amazing. @#$% that; even as a nightmare fantasy! Dusty Rhodes for president would have made for more entertaining speeches. Just ask the New Breed, They sure watched a lot of cartoons, though. Possibly while high. What about IRS or Ted DiBiase as Secretary of the Treasury? |
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 15, 2024 12:44:49 GMT -5
@#$% that; even as a nightmare fantasy! Dusty Rhodes for president would have made for more entertaining speeches. Just ask the New Breed, They sure watched a lot of cartoons, though. Possibly while high. What about IRS or Ted DiBiase as Secretary of the Treasury? I don't know, but I'd want Jim Cornette as Dusty's White House Spokesman, cutting promos on some of the reporters or the opposition. I think Dusty's State of the Union address would sound like this..... |
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 15, 2024 13:49:32 GMT -5
I think we should give Secretary of Defense to The Road Warriors.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 15, 2024 14:44:08 GMT -5
I think we should give Secretary of Defense to The Road Warriors. Naw....put them in charge of the Food & Drug Administration. They knew about raw meat and chemicals. Whatever you do, do not let Ric Flair near the Treasury. There is nothing worse than destabilizing your economy with a bar tab! |
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Post by driver1980 on Oct 16, 2024 6:25:39 GMT -5
Forty years ago today, Shawn Michaels made his wrestling debut in Mid-South against Art Crews. I don’t believe it was televised, unless anyone else knows better.
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Post by codystarbuck on Oct 16, 2024 20:59:31 GMT -5
Forty years ago today, Shawn Michaels made his wrestling debut in Mid-South against Art Crews. I don’t believe it was televised, unless anyone else knows better. That doesn't sound right. I know it says that in Wikipedia and Wrestling Data; but, I have also seen footage of him in matches in Southwest Championship Wrestling, before Texas All-Star Wrestling started up, to run their towns, after their demise. I know he did before working Kansas City. Maybe that was just Houston, when Paul Boesch was working with Watts. Still, I want to say the Wrestling Gold series had one or two matches from The Junction, in San Antonio. I could be wrong or the footage could have been Texas All-Star; but, I seem to recall from Meltzer and Cornette's commentary track it was SCW. |
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Oct 16, 2024 22:01:01 GMT -5
FWIW, Wrestlingdata has October 8th, 1984 vs Art Crews as Michaels' debut match, not October 16th. As for where he debuted, Shawn was from San Antonio and grew up watching SWCW, idolizing Tully Blanchard, but I can't find any info that he actually wrestled there first. He definitely wrestled for SWCW/Texas All Star in 1985
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