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Post by driver1980 on Nov 12, 2024 7:58:20 GMT -5
I expect a 90% pass rate for everyone taking this quiz:  |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 12, 2024 11:20:47 GMT -5
codystarbuck wrote this: Yet that was inconsistent at times. I mean, they had an absurd policy to restrict PPV tapes to 2 hours (leading to occurrences such as SuperBrawl III omitting two exceptional tag matches). Oh, and they didn’t even bother to release SuperBrawl IV on tape - and Bischoff appeared to have no answer as to why that occurred. From late 1993 to early 1997, they didn’t even bother to have a videotape licensee in the UK, forcing us Brits to import expensive tapes from ads in the PWI family of mags. And unlike the WWF, WCW rarely did anything other than PPV tapes. There were some, of course. But the majority were edited PPVs. Meanwhile, in the 80s/90s, the WWF was putting out videotapes devoted to gimmicks, wrestlers, championship belts, specific programmes, etc. It never dawned on WCW to do anything like, say, “Best of the US Championship” or “Best of Starrcade”. Not early on, anyway. I'm talking Crockett, though, with Starrcade and Great American Bash tapes, before the buyout. They were outselling the Coliseum stuff, for a time. Those did big numbers for Turner. 90s and later WCW are different stories, as you had the whole mismanagement of WCW at the heart of it. |
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 12, 2024 14:46:55 GMT -5
Incidentally, Jim Crockett Promotions sounds much, much better than World Championship Wrestling. Just my view!
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 12, 2024 22:36:24 GMT -5
Incidentally, Jim Crockett Promotions sounds much, much better than World Championship Wrestling. Just my view! Well, I preferred to use of the National Wrestling Alliance, especially with the titles; but, it still meant something, then (until about 1986). I truly miss the variety you got with the territory era and the way that the various promotions and competing organizations felt more like traditional sports leagues. It meant something when you got a title vs title match, even if you knew it wouldn't have a decisive finish. The NWA, AWA and WWF were like the National League and American League, in baseball, or the NFC and AFC, in Football; or, even better, the NBA and the ABA, in the 1970s (and the NFL and AFL, when the Super Bowl began). Apart from overlapping World Tag-Team titles and a couple of US Heavyweight Champions, most of the promotions had their own regional championship and didn't copy another promotions title name (though you had a Southern champion in Florida and Memphis, though it was originally the Southern Junior Heavyweight Championship). You felt like there were status levels in wrestling, which made the magazine rankings seem credible. Usually, the top 10 contenders held regional titles. That made sense, from a booking standpoint. World Championship Wrestling had actually been the name of Jim Barnett's Australian promotion, after he sold off Detroit and Indianapolis and it was a pretty big deal, in its heyday. He then bought into Georgia and they used that name for the Saturday 6:06 pm tv show on WTBS, Turner Broadcasting. It had been Giorgia Championship Wrestling; but, because of Turner's penetration on cable systems, with the Superstation WTBS, they renamed the Saturday show World Championship Wrestling. The name was kept through the buyout by Vince and the sale to Crockett, then used as the company name when Turner bought it. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 12, 2024 23:49:21 GMT -5
I expect a 90% pass rate for everyone taking this quiz: 1. Memphis, TN 2. January 1, 1944 3. Colonel 4. No idea....didn't see THAT much Memphis 5. Hart wore all kinds of sunglasses; but, I assume they mean the one in the picture, with the music notes. 6. I assume they mean the Honkey Tonk Man, since this is a WWF quiz. He also managed Andy Kauffman, who impersonated Elvis, and might have managed Bill Dundee, who wore Elvis-inspire ring attire. 7. I assume they mean Dino Bravo 8. Um....The Giant Gonzales?...no wait, he was managed by Downtown Bruno (Harvey Whipleman). King Kong Bundy? Earthquake? 9. The Mountie 10. In Memphis it was The First Family. In the WWF it was The Hart Foundation, which became just Bret and Jim Neidhart. 11. The Gentrys 12. "Keep On Dancing" It was also their only major hit. Hart did not sing lead vocals, though. 13. No earthly idea...probably something stupid, knowing Vince and that time period. 14. Um....1992? Uh, Heenan? Slick? Miss Elizabeth? Harvey Whippleman? I got nuthin'... 15. The only music Savage ever came out to, in the WWF, was Elgar's "Pomp and Circumstance." 16. Wrestlemania III would have been the Hart Foundation, who were in a 6-man, with referee Danny Davis, to help cover for Dynamite Kid's back injury, as the Bulldogs had Tito Santana. 17. The Rougeaus, I think. 18. Rhythm and Blues and god what an insult that was the Greg Valentine! 19. The Nasty Boys, who defeated The Hart Foundation. 20. I would assume that is Money Inc, based on Dibiase's gimmick 21. An attack on Brutus Beefcake, after the parasailing accident. He felt it went too far. 22. He covered Beefcake with his own body, which would have been about as much protection as a piece of aluminum foil, in a meteor storm. 23. The Mega-Maniacs, though the Cokeheads, would have been more appropriate. 24. Hogan wrestled as Terry "The Hulk" Boulder in Memphis, though mostly as a babyface. Hart did manage him in July, 1981, though. 25. Steroid work? a) Probably; couldn't give a toss. b) Wrestlemania III c) No idea what they are talkin' 'bout, Willis! d) Some hack, no doubt. e) The day one of his men defeated Jerry Lawler for the Southern Heavyweight Title? |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 12, 2024 23:50:43 GMT -5
ps Jimmy Hart is 80!
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Post by commond on Nov 13, 2024 3:34:53 GMT -5
c is this bad boy. The Nasty Boys used it to defeat the Hart Foundation for the tag team titles.  |
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 13, 2024 7:53:03 GMT -5
On Twitter, there was a discussion about shoot fights and shoot promotions in wrestling. It’s hard to keep up with quote tweets and all that, but Meltzer tweeted this: x.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1856117191504175555I hadn’t heard of that Brazilian promotion. Sounds interesting, but I’m not surprised that the bodies didn’t hold up. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 13, 2024 11:32:53 GMT -5
On Twitter, there was a discussion about shoot fights and shoot promotions in wrestling. It’s hard to keep up with quote tweets and all that, but Meltzer tweeted this: x.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1856117191504175555I hadn’t heard of that Brazilian promotion. Sounds interesting, but I’m not surprised that the bodies didn’t hold up. If you were doing straight submission wrestling, with no striking allowed, you could have more bouts, but not with both. Professional boxers don't have that many fights per year, for similar reasons. If you just look at early UFC, when they didn't have weight classes and fewer rules, guys were injured left, right and center, with broken knuckles a regular feature. The thing is, wrestling became a work to protect the wrestlers and jazz it up, for the crowd. It gets boring for the fans, if you have wrestlers in a stalemate situation. UFC had similar problems when they had fights between well matched opponents (didn't happen that often), who would sit in the guard, having a "huggy fight," as we used to call them. Shamrock vs Dan Severn II, was boring as @#$%, as neither one of them wanted to make a mistake and wouldn't act aggressively. They just spent 30 minutes circling each other, throwing feints and not locking up, or brief exchanges and then sat in the guard. We we're so annoyed with it we were throwing out suggestions to liven it up, like forcing them into a starting position, like amateur wrestling, with one in the down position. |
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 13, 2024 15:00:51 GMT -5
Well done to codystarbuck for having a crack at the Jimmy Hart quiz (a commendable effort, and some of the humorous answers were fun). Well, here’s another one for anyone interested:  |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 13, 2024 15:07:48 GMT -5
Well done to codystarbuck for having a crack at the Jimmy Hart quiz (a commendable effort, and some of the humorous answers were fun). Well, here’s another one for anyone interested: Give me a pre or post WWF Luger quiz and I'm there; but, I barely saw any of his WWF stint. Very much a square peg in a round hole....though not as much as Barry Windham. |
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 13, 2024 15:10:17 GMT -5
Really didn’t get why the WWF did the Stalker thing with Windham (well, I do, I mean it was the same year they gave us T. L. Hopper, The Goon, etc.).
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Post by commond on Nov 13, 2024 15:54:07 GMT -5
I liked Windham's run in WWF with Mike Rotunda. Not as good as his work in Florida, Crockett or WCW, but a decent WWF run. Rotunda was one of the most boring wrestlers to ever lace a pair of boots so Windham had to haul ass to get the team over. The Widowmaker could have been a much bigger deal if Windham had stuck around. Luger should have been a wet dream made in heaven for Vince, but the timing was bad with the steroid scandal and the slump in business.
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Post by driver1980 on Nov 13, 2024 18:37:11 GMT -5
I liked Windham's run in WWF with Mike Rotunda. Not as good as his work in Florida, Crockett or WCW, but a decent WWF run. Rotunda was one of the most boring wrestlers to ever lace a pair of boots so Windham had to haul ass to get the team over. The Widowmaker could have been a much bigger deal if Windham had stuck around. Luger should have been a wet dream made in heaven for Vince, but the timing was bad with the steroid scandal and the slump in business. One of my favourite Windham matches is from 1992: the WCW Worldwide bout where he lost the TV Championship to Stunning Steve Austin. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 13, 2024 20:29:29 GMT -5
I will concede the US Express, as Windham and Rotunda were a great team. I disagree about Rotunda being the most boring wrestler, ever; but, then again, I like the technicians. He was never a promo guy and the whole Varsity Club thing probably fit him best, in my opinion. Jock bully worked pretty well, there.
Windham just never seemed to have the fire that some did to really put himself at the top. One of the best workers in the world, in the mid-80s; but lacking the drive of a Ric Flair or similar figure, to be THE TOP GUY.
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