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Post by james on Jul 25, 2019 8:40:02 GMT -5
Was just thinking today are there any true villains in Marvel Comics anymore? I am really having a hard time trying to come up with one.
But DC still has quite a few. Luthor, Bane, Joker, etc.
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Post by Confessor on Jul 25, 2019 9:00:50 GMT -5
Was just thinking today are there any true villains in Marvel Comics anymore? Define a "true" villain. |
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Jul 25, 2019 9:04:25 GMT -5
I don't read comics that are new...are you saying Marvel comics are villain-less? Or are you saying there is no overarching bad guy that is a true threat? Has something happened in the comic world to Thanos, Kingpin, Green Goblin, Kang, Scorpion, Loki, Galactus, Venom, Carnage, Mandarin, MODOK, Abomination, Juggernaut, the Sentinels, Annihilus, Ultron, Bullseye, Sabretooth, etc. that I do no know about?
If they are truly all gone and not used anymore, therein lies the reason I do not read current comics.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 10:11:14 GMT -5
I'm not entirely sure I understand the question. Depending on what the question is, I think it could lead to a great discussion.
I mean, Kraven has been up to no good in recent Spidey comics. Just one example. Some cosmic heavy-hitters are causing trouble. And if the likes of Kang are out there, it's only a matter of time since he causes havoc.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 25, 2019 10:19:47 GMT -5
Where have all the villains gone, long time passing?
Where have all the villeins gone, long time ago?
Where have all the villains gone?
Heroes have kicked them everyone
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Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 10:24:33 GMT -5
Was just thinking today are there any true villains in Marvel Comics anymore? I am really having a hard time trying to come up with one. But DC still has quite a few. Luthor, Bane, Joker, etc. they've all been turned into "Anti-heroes" and many joined the X-men |
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Post by chadwilliam on Jul 25, 2019 10:34:09 GMT -5
Was just thinking today are there any true villains in Marvel Comics anymore? I am really having a hard time trying to come up with one. But DC still has quite a few. Luthor, Bane, Joker, etc. they've all been turned into "Anti-heroes" and many joined the X-men Not sure I understand the question either. Not sure what's going on with Marvel nowadays, but I'd have to think they wouldn't go the 'anti-villain' route with, say, The Red Skull. |
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Post by james on Jul 25, 2019 13:16:58 GMT -5
Where have all the villains gone, long time passing? Where have all the villeins gone, long time ago? Where have all the villains gone? Heroes have kicked them everyone . Oh, when will they ever learn? Oh, when will they ever learn? LOL Exactly what I was going for!! |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 25, 2019 13:57:51 GMT -5
Maybe someone can list the villains who have never turned good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 13:58:48 GMT -5
Maybe someone can list the villains who have never turned good. I'll try (and perhaps fail because who could ever know every comic/arc?). Surely Kang and Red Skull have never turned good? |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 25, 2019 14:00:11 GMT -5
There was a good version ok Kang in Young Avengers.
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Post by james on Jul 25, 2019 14:30:42 GMT -5
Maybe someone can list the villains who have never turned good. I'll try (and perhaps fail because who could ever know every comic/arc?). Surely Kang and Red Skull have never turned good? Or become jokes. Modok, Beetle, Shocker for example. I'm still really pissed they did that to Modok. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 14:31:45 GMT -5
What did they do to MODOK? Do I even want to know?
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Post by Crimebuster on Jul 25, 2019 14:36:11 GMT -5
It's just part of the long term grim-n-gritty fallout from the mid-80's. DC and Marvel have intentionally turned their universes into morally grey areas, with morally grey heroes and morally grey villains. Why do you need villains if the heroes are fighting each other all the time?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 14:38:07 GMT -5
It's just part of the long term grim-n-gritty fallout from the mid-80's. DC and Marvel have intentionally turned their universes into morally grey areas, with morally grey heroes and morally grey villains. Why do you need villains if the heroes are fighting each other all the time? There can be a place for that as long as a) it's logical, and b) isn't overdone. When Red Skull leads an Avengers team, I think I'd be quitting that book! |
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